Spoiler One Piece Chapter 987 Spoilers Discussion

Who will be defeated first?


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Kaido is still clean
Kaido was drunk when attacked
Kaido will still gonna wreck them solo

No worries :
He matched Prime Oden
He defeated Prime Oden via distraction
He matched Linlin
Clashed Shanks and crew
Defeated Moriah Luffy Kidd Killer Flyers
Tanked Retainers combine attack and recovered quick.

He's about to get a new combat W

Getting disarmed, hurt by Kiku and Kinnemon ryou attacks is bad but will not erase his greatness. Unless of course if he doesn't do anything much next.
Yep, Kaido specifically state that he sobered up at the end of the chapter. Maybe he wouldn't even have gotten touched if he was sober. Remember how he was getting pummeled when drunk and instantly one shotted him once sober
 
Is that what we're talking about? I thought we were talking about the red scabbards stabbing base for kaido. You were comparing this to marines stabbing Whitebeard. So can marines Stab Base for big mom? No needs for your nerfs. Kaidou isn't nerfed right not as he's being stabbed
I wasn't the one comparing, that was someone else , look at my username and the username of the guy you were arguing with
 
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Jo_Ndule

BMP would have soloed retainers
BM wouldn't even get to do muxh

Beast pirstes stood there just watching Kaido getting attacked and going up to fight a whole army by himself

I swear, King better bring tissues after he stopped crying and hiding in fear coz he will get fodderized soon
 
So Zoro after beating King is Mihawk level after this arc?
Pretty much, but still little bit weaker cuz the fight between Zoro and Mihawk should be thugh for Zoro. We are very close to the end of the story only few arcs are left, Big Mom and Kaido are going down in this arc they even promote the ending of the story.
Wano is the land of the Samurais, the place where the swordsmanship was born, it's quite logical that Zoro should live Wano being ready to face Mihawk. The fight between Zoro and Mihawk will happen soon after Wano arc since Luffy said that "not having the WSS in pirate King's crew would be shame" or samthing on those lines, so don't quote me on that. Strowhats will be a full fledged Yonko crew with Luffy coming out of Wano as strong as Yonko, Zoro coming out of Wano as Strong as YC1 and almost as strong as Mihawk, Sanji coming out of Wano as strong as YC2/YC1, and Jinbe is already YC3.
 
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I see the denials already started. get used to it zoro is making kaido his bitch when he steps up
You have just seen Kiku hurt Kaido. Kiku.
And the mink fodders are ready to fight him.
At this point if Oda wants, virtually anyone can hurt him with Oda himself on his/her part :milaugh:
 
Anything can happen to top tiers, do you guys even remember that Garp a rival of Roger and WB, the one who defeated Xebec along with Roger, the one who defeated Shiki along with Sengoku, even got stabbed by the God of all fodder : Morgan. And this for me doesn't means that he is weak.
 
Wait and see what, that Mihawk is not the WSS even though he's been called that throughout the entire manga.

Come now.

Mihawk is the person Zoro wants to beat and surpass. Zoro is currently working to become stronger then Oden who couldn't even create a black blade.
Dude, chill down... I agree that Mihawk is the WSS just like I agree that Whitbeard was the WSM and Kaido is the WSC.
 
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Cracker wasn't One Shot, that implies he went down to a single punch

He went crashing through several Biscuit soldiers
It's a one-shot in a long prolonged battle
Cracker real body got oneshotted
The battle was extreme diff but Cracker himself couldn't tank G4 attack like his clones.
 
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Kaido D. Stronger

Uau, meu kaido conseguiu pegar algumas aranhas enquanto estava bêbado, e mesmo assim ele se machucou com um sorriso no rosto, o yonkou mais forte esperava resistir a um ataque que mataria o ruivo, akainu e todos os outros personagens (exceto a grande mãe) com defesa "normal", as espadas passariam por elas, kaido até agora nem combinava a dureza de seu corpo + o haki de sua arma.
 
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MD Zolo

I think it is important to build up a villain.

Let's take Doflamingo for example. He was never shown to be a monstrous person. Even before his swan song, he got played by Kuzan. But Oda slowly developed him into a threat through action and not hype. He made Doffy beat Oars Jr. easily, make fun of Jozu, kick Smoker like nothing, withstand three-way fight with an Admiral smiling and with every fight, we realized that Doffy is a formidable enemy. He was never hyped beyond few one-liners.

Now apply the same to Kaido. Forget all the hype. Then we see him withstanding a fall from 10,000 meters, thrashing 3 SNs, thrashing Luffy, matching BM, beating(?) Oden and we would all accept Kaido as this beast that we know he is. But Oda decided to hype him instead. If Oda never resorted to hype, then we wouldn't be having this issue. Kaido's action would speak louder than words but now his actions fail to match the words Oda attached to him.
 
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