Spoiler One Piece Chapter 989 Spoilers Discussion

Who is stronger?

  • King

    Votes: 106 41.2%
  • Katakuri

    Votes: 91 35.4%
  • Raid Suit Sanji

    Votes: 60 23.3%

  • Total voters
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Sanji was literally saying he was going to die and couldn't get out of his beak attack. Than praised how great the Raid suit was. Sanji then took the whole chapter to get up. We seen Ichiji after and he fought an army and looked clean. Katakuri didn't do any significant damage to him at all
Yet he was hanging there looking lifeless, and not even attempting to struggle or fight back.
 
Base Luffy nerfed by seastone cuffs without haki was one shotting Gifters and headliners in Udon Prison.

Take that base Luffy, give him 10 years of physical stength training instead of Devil fruit training( age 7 - 17), and give him his Advanced Haki, you get monster Luffy.

Do not forget Luffy's devil fruit relies on his physical strength.

No matter how you look at it, Luffy is a monster without a fighting style. Nobody but Luffy can do that.
You said it, his fruit depend on his physical strength. His Df training is linked with his strength not independent from one another.

Luffy has great potential but not even close to that of the vinsmokes where 8 year old reiju could bend steel and beat germa soldier.

Imagine that Reiju had Luffy's fruit since young then spent two years honing her haki under Reilaigh. She'd be above Yonko lvl already.
 
Yet he was hanging there looking lifeless, and not even attempting to struggle or fight back.
Luffy was hanging off Zoro lifeless after Apoo attack. Sanji was under rubble till the end of the damn chapter. They both got bodied and took no significant damage. After fighting Katakuri,Army, he went to go save Sanji ass again and was still clean. Was still fighting when BM arrived hour later. Like cant be serious
 
What plot army? Sanji got wrecled and took whole chapter to get out some rubble, while Ichiji got wreck and fought an army after had no significant injuries at all. Like yall need to stop.

This is after the Katakuri fight and army. Katakuri did no significant damage to this man stop it
Calling a scratch getting wrecked?

Then Zoro was raped consecutively by Apoo and random 3 gifters.
 
It seems like a lot of people don't know how to distinguish between power levels and characterization. For some, power levels is the entire characterization of a character which is not the case. The takes I've seen about Linlin in these threads has annoyed me to the point where I'm actually going to create a thread to debunk the foolishness that she is a poorly written character.
cant wait for those guys to be exposed
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Ok Seth, just because you say something doesn't make it true. We clearly saw that she would have hit the Sunny from a far off distance but plot armor ahoy and sunny can "quickly" turn away from it.
Just because Smoothie is memed here doesn't give free range to dismissing what could have happened.
Jack is a durability God.
 
Luffy was hanging off Zoro lifeless after Apoo attack. Sanji was under rubble till the end of the damn chapter. They both got bodied and took no significant damage. After fighting Katakuri,Army, he went to go save Sanji ass again and was still clean. Was still fighting when BM arrived hour later. Like cant be serious
That doesn't change the fact that he was utterly defeated by Katakuri in that moment. I don't even get what your trying to play at. Like him bouncing back and going on to get some shine later in the arc is suppose to negate that..... :choppawhat:
 
And King was not referenced as the card "King" too, or Queen, or Jack. They directly have those names.
So it remains the Ace. There is no one with that name (well, there was, Ace > calamities confirmed :P) in the crew and by logic, Ace is the card above the King/Queen/Jack/X, who is above them in the crew? Kaido.

This is not rocket science bro.
You post literally contradicts your point how can you not see that lmao. Oda could very well just make a Number the "Ace" since its also a 1 value card, or he could just drop a bombshell and have the Ace come out of knowhere
 
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