Spoiler One Piece Chapter 989 Spoilers Discussion

Who is stronger?

  • King

    Votes: 106 41.2%
  • Katakuri

    Votes: 91 35.4%
  • Raid Suit Sanji

    Votes: 60 23.3%

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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Well, you are not only invisible for others, you can't see your body either. Imagine failing to block an attack because you don't see your leg where is heading to lmao.
The suit does not give more durability, it is flexible, they are clothes. The impact of any attack Sanji would feel them with his own body, he needs his own durability to tank the attacks. Suit gives the extra of being resistant enough so for cutting/piercing attacks it can stop the pierce, that's true, but not the impact/energy behind those attacks. And anyway, Sanji can take those kind of attacks with his Armament. The shield cape is the only thing that gives actual durability.

Enma does not give greater strength, a sword power depends on its user power. Enma's power up consisted on Zoro's training his Armament Haki. Armament = power and defense. That is above suit's "durability" or power increase. Haki is a more efficient way to boost your power and defense than Germa's technology.
And Sanji's invisibility probably will have some sort of limitation, Oda does not give good abilities without a handicap or some kind of limitation for free.
So their PUs are similar.
Lmfao what. You seriously cant read.
The suit boosts his durability. Sanji himself commented on it.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
King's attack = piercing attack
RS prevented the attack to pierce --> what Sanji said
Still, like I explained, Sanji needed to take the impact/energy behind the attack.
Pretty simple.
No it boosts his durability just like when sanji got sent through buildings by page one.
He even commented on it then too. Was that a piercing attack ?
 
Well, you are not only invisible for others, you can't see your body either. Imagine failing to block an attack because you don't see your leg where is heading to lmao.
The suit does not give more durability, it is flexible, they are clothes. The impact of any attack Sanji would feel them with his own body, he needs his own durability to tank the attacks. Suit gives the extra of being resistant enough so for cutting/piercing attacks it can stop the pierce, that's true, but not the impact/energy behind those attacks. And anyway, Sanji can take those kind of attacks with his Armament. The shield cape is the only thing that gives actual durability.

Enma does not give greater strength, a sword power depends on its user power. Enma's power up consisted on Zoro's training his Armament Haki. Armament = power and defense. That is above suit's "durability" or power increase. Haki is a more efficient way to boost your power and defense than Germa's technology.
And Sanji's invisibility probably will have some sort of limitation, Oda does not give good abilities without a handicap or some kind of limitation for free.
So their PUs are similar.
Most of these are assumptions, they have not been stated in the manga.For example:sanji not being able to see his own body, the suit is not durable it's flexible.
And you said zoro need to train his armament haki to use enma, isn't that his own power and not the sword ?
And in what way are they similar ? Does Enma makes zoro invisible ? Does enma enable him to fly. And most importantly, Enma is NOT a power up. It does not immidiately gives zoro anything. It's like a training equipment,u even acknowlegde it yourself.
At first glance the suit clearly gives more abilities to sanji, and i know that is true because of how much you have to assume to defend your case.Now if i strip everything down to only describing what does what, what do you think gives more to the user without needing much from them ? Try listing raid suit and enma unique abilities down, which list is longer ?
 
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