Spoiler One Piece Chapter 990 Spoilers Discussion

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Not frontal, central. Jimbe's fatass takes a lot of the screen, but he actually paralels Chopper more than he does Zoro.

What Oda does here is he is having the East Blue characters all in front. If you know how to read the spread, starting from Nami and going to Usopp on the other side, the East Blue characters all make a half circle in front, and the GL characters are all in the middle surrounded by them.

Among those East Blue characters Luffy is in the Middle, at his right there's Sanji and then Nami, and at his left there's Zoro and then Usopp.
Do you legit disrespect Jinbei, or are you mad he’s closer to Luffy? Not all fans are educated enough like you to read a spread.
 
Do you legit disrespect Jinbei, or are you mad he’s closer to Luffy? Not all fans are educated enough like you to read a spread.
I don't disrespect him, that's just what's shown in the picture.

The East Blue characters have seniority among all other characters, and if you look statistics Oda gives them most panel time. It makes sense that he would put them in front like this.

But hey, Jimbe at least clearly stands out among the others. He's closer to the front than the rest and has a central position, enough to confuse some of you guys. I have no doubt that beyond the M3, he is the strongest SH, and everything he brings to the table significantly bolsters the SH ranks.
 
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Saw you guys discussion about calamities' portrayal.

Forget King, let's talk about Queen.

If we never had that one scene where Jack seemed to get intimidated by King and Queen.
Without that scene, don't you think it's crystal clear that by portrayal, Jack >> Queen?

1. Jack has more focus. He yoloed a whole island of Natural Born Warriors, fighting 5 days straight without resting. Yoloed Fujitora, Sengoku and Tsuru. Yoloed Zunisha. Fought Ashura Doji who is higher tier scabbard.
Sure he got his ass kicked several times, but it never made him became a pussy and became afraid.

While Queen got Udon chapters, didn't fought Luffy and only watched from afar where Luffy and old Hyou defeating his men. When Big Mom came, he fought her, yet the moment she regained her memories, he pissed his pants.

BM is Top Tier so Queen pissed his pants seeing her regaining her memory but Jack didn't piss his pants charging at 2 Top Tiers at once (Fuji and Sengoku).

2. In Onigashima where Big Mom was still chained and hadn't become their ally yet, Queen pissed his pants again seeing BM. But Jack (and King) didn't.

3. This chapter
Jack yoloed sulong mink armies again, fought their Sulong dukes, got injured and stabbed yet still didn't piss his pants.

Queen did nothing when Sanji freed Momo, he probably didn't even know what was actually going on.
Against X Drake, it seems Queen needs to gang up first with Hawkins and Who's Who. Jack wouldn't gang up with anyone to body his enemy.

So forgetting that 1 scene where Queen acted bossy toward Jack and forgetting bounty comparison (bounty doesn't really matter anyway, currently Zoro has lower bounty than scrub), everything else points out that Jack > Queen.
 
@Sentinel @Shuyaku
Saw you guys discussion about calamities' portrayal.

Forget King, let's talk about Queen.

If we never had that one scene where Jack seemed to get intimidated by King and Queen.
Without that scene, don't you think it's crystal clear that by portrayal, Jack >> Queen?

1. Jack has more focus. He yoloed a whole island of Natural Born Warriors, fighting 5 days straight without resting. Yoloed Fujitora, Sengoku and Tsuru. Yoloed Zunisha. Fought Ashura Doji who is higher tier scabbard.
Sure he got his ass kicked several times, but it never made him became a pussy and became afraid.

While Queen got Udon chapters, didn't fought Luffy and only watched from afar where Luffy and old Hyou defeating his men. When Big Mom came, he fought her, yet the moment she regained her memories, he pissed his pants.

BM is Top Tier so Queen pissed his pants seeing her regaining her memory but Jack didn't piss his pants charging at 2 Top Tiers at once (Fuji and Sengoku).

2. In Onigashima where Big Mom was still chained and hadn't become their ally yet, Queen pissed his pants again seeing BM. But Jack (and King) didn't.

3. This chapter
Jack yoloed sulong mink armies again, fought their Sulong dukes, got injured and stabbed yet still didn't piss his pants.

Queen did nothing when Sanji freed Momo, he probably didn't even know what was actually going on.
Against X Drake, it seems Queen needs to gang up first with Hawkins and Who's Who. Jack wouldn't gang up with anyone to body his enemy.

So forgetting that 1 scene where Queen acted bossy toward Jack and forgetting bounty comparison (bounty doesn't really matter anyway, currently Zoro has lower bounty than scrub), everything else points out that Jack > Queen.
But that scene established that King/Queen > Jack, so Oda uses Jack a lot to feed a lot of his hype into his superiors. The stronger Jack seems, that much stronger those two are :luuh:
 
I don't disrespect him, that's just what's shown in the picture.

The East Blue characters have seniority among all other characters, and if you look statistics Oda gives them most panel time. It makes sense that he would put them in front like this.

But hey, Jimbe at least clearly stands out among the others. He's closer to the front than the rest and has a central position, enough to confuse some of you guys. I have no doubt that beyond the M3, he is the strongest SH, and everything he brings to the table significantly bolsters the SH ranks.
Nah, Jinbei's accomplishments and former title puts him above both Zoro and Sanji at the moment.
 
I don't disrespect him, that's just what's shown in the picture.

The East Blue characters have seniority among all other characters, and if you look statistics Oda gives them most panel time. It makes sense that he would put them in front like this.

But hey, Jimbe at least clearly stands out among the others. He's closer to the front than the rest and has a central position, enough to confuse some of you guys. I have no doubt that beyond the M3, he is the strongest SH, and everything he brings to the table significantly bolsters the SH ranks.
Oda does these things knowing full well what discourse brings. At the end of the arc, it will still be Luffy, Zoro, Sanji despite the jokes. But never forget the guy that made it possible for Luffy to breathe post MF war, Jinbei
 

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@Sentinel @Shuyaku
Saw you guys discussion about calamities' portrayal.

Forget King, let's talk about Queen.

If we never had that one scene where Jack seemed to get intimidated by King and Queen.
Without that scene, don't you think it's crystal clear that by portrayal, Jack >> Queen?

1. Jack has more focus. He yoloed a whole island of Natural Born Warriors, fighting 5 days straight without resting. Yoloed Fujitora, Sengoku and Tsuru. Yoloed Zunisha. Fought Ashura Doji who is higher tier scabbard.
Sure he got his ass kicked several times, but it never made him became a pussy and became afraid.

While Queen got Udon chapters, didn't fought Luffy and only watched from afar where Luffy and old Hyou defeating his men. When Big Mom came, he fought her, yet the moment she regained her memories, he pissed his pants.

BM is Top Tier so Queen pissed his pants seeing her regaining her memory but Jack didn't piss his pants charging at 2 Top Tiers at once (Fuji and Sengoku).

2. In Onigashima where Big Mom was still chained and hadn't become their ally yet, Queen pissed his pants again seeing BM. But Jack (and King) didn't.

3. This chapter
Jack yoloed sulong mink armies again, fought their Sulong dukes, got injured and stabbed yet still didn't piss his pants.

Queen did nothing when Sanji freed Momo, he probably didn't even know what was actually going on.
Against X Drake, it seems Queen needs to gang up first with Hawkins and Who's Who. Jack wouldn't gang up with anyone to body his enemy.

So forgetting that 1 scene where Queen acted bossy toward Jack and forgetting bounty comparison (bounty doesn't really matter anyway, currently Zoro has lower bounty than scrub), everything else points out that Jack > Queen.
thats just his personality hes the funny character in wano. he acts scared and stupd but then afterwards he still shiit talk big mom and called her an old hag.
 
Nah, Jinbei's accomplishments and former title puts him above both Zoro and Sanji at the moment.
I can kind of see it, but also not really when looking at the big picture and how things unfolded in the past.

I do think there's a reason Jimbe did not join in FI, and he was portrayed as of comparable strength with Sanji back then.

I also think that reason if outdated, and be made clear to be outdated by the end of Wano beyond all doubt.
 
Are people joking or what? We're talking about a Kong Gun to the face.



As a point of reference, Pacifistas and Hajrudin were taken out by a basic G2 punch. Chinjao with a G3 attack. Holdem with a Red Hawk.
 
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