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Even when together, Law had to use cheap tactics like teleporting Doffy out of his chair to have Red Hawk land, and even then admitting that such "tricks" won't work twice. And still, both Luffy and Law gave everything they had, including their ultimate attacks, with the Marines acknowledging their equal effort by giving them a bounty of 500 million each.
So yeah the one time they actually could fight him as a team, they had the advantage and that's before Luffy even unveiled G4. An actual 2v1 would have been a wash.

The marines point is moot. They are not omnipotent beings who know exactly how events unfolded and assign bounties accordingly. In fact Law admited to his crew in Zou that most of the credit should go to Luffy.
Ah yeah. Trebol and Bellamy, the two god tiers.
Yes. The very same Bellamy and Trebol who were essential for Doffy to avoid the 2v1 situation.
 
Err, Pica >> Vergo. The one that is ~ Vergo is DFless Pica. Both have Fullbody Haki afterall.
But yeah, Vergo / DFless Pica > Veterans.

It is All out Pica > Jack > Vergo / DFless Pica > Veterans / Flying Six.

"But but Flying Six stomps vergo!!"
Lmao as if a group that will get defeated by Usopp / Nami is stronger than someone who bodied Smoker, Tashigi and Sanji, and broke Smoker's seastone jitte with his haki bamboo.


Yeah you're supposed to end your sentence with lol after saying jokes.
And still that group is stronger then Vergo and Pica. First we need to see how they will be defeated, only then you can burn lol
 
Just so y’all know, being a commander in each crew means:
WB - calls you a son and will go to war for you
Shank - will go to war for you and you’re one of the boys
Kaido - drinks with you, respects you, will step in to protect you if you’re in serious danger
Big Mom - disrespects you ALOT and can kill you if she gets mad
Why would anyone want to be a commander for Big Mom
 
Drake used fullzoan form when he had fight to the death with Pacifista in Sabaody Archipelago and used hybrid form to attack Number. Fullzoan form might be slower and Drake won't have enough time to reach Luffy to ask for help so Drke used hybrid form instead which has higher speed than fullzoan form.

Queen scared shitless of BM yet used fullzoan form not hybrid. With fullzoan form Queen managed to knockout Big Mom since fullzoan form has more raw power compared to hybrid form since hybrid form won't be enough to knock out BM.

I think it depends on the situation.
Hybrid is more balanced, but if you want to emphasize certain aspects (first and foremost physical strength), then full form is more suited, and Jack being amidst a horde of Sulong minks makes full zoan the more logical choice, since he has more durability, and in hybrid he can´t dodge them anyway, considering he is slow as fuck.
 

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Just so y’all know, being a commander in each crew means:
WB - calls you a son and will go to war for you
Shank - will go to war for you and you’re one of the boys
Kaido - drinks with you, respect you, will step in to protect you if you’re in serious danger
Big Mom - disrespects you ALOT and can kill you if she gets mad
Why would anyone want to be a commander for Big Mom
Well all her commanders and crew is her children so basically they have no choice since they were raised so it makes sense
 
If Doffy doesn’t make Luffy turn gear 4, he dies. If Law hadn’t injured him, Doffy wouldn’t have been caught slacking and gotten head butted by Boundman. If Oda hadn’t had Doffy been retarded and try to clash with the King Kong Gun, Luffy dies. The team fight is only ONE of the asterisks next to the Doffy fight.
Stitching made the limitation to Doflamingo's combat power from GK very minimal, if Luffy hadn't wasted so much endurance getting to Doffy and had gone G4 from the start and surprise Organ'd him then Doflamingo would be out.

Boundman is faster and stronger than Doflamingo, the time limit running out in the first round was PIS as Doflamingo was "one attack away" from being ko'd until he recuperated, if Luffy hadn't wasted time explaining his powers and using less effective techniques he would have won, this was plot to show the weakness of G4, to prolong the arc and ramp up the stakes, to give shine to all the small characters etc.

Doflamingo didn't have the choice but to clash, boundman's mobility is superior and he could teleport in front of Doffy and hit him with it if he didn't try to clash and defend himself properly.

If Doflamingo fought in the mirror world Luffy could have beat Doflamingo a lot easier, the wide open area was prime for his stall tactics and pseudo flight, similarly if Luffy fought Katakuri in dressrosa, Katakuri would be at a disadvantage with his lack of aerial mobility.
 
we are all knew cracker doesnt have boundman durability. nor katakuri
they are weaker physically than boundman
what make impressive is even being inferior they still can force boundman to be useless. force luffy fight for 11 hours with not them being weak and hide, but dominate the fight most time.

that is what make them special. they have skill and ability to counter boundman. something that doffy doesnt have and couldnt do.
If Oda didn’t have Doffy be retarded and try to clash with King Kong Gun, all Doffy has to do is fly around an evade. The only reason he got hit by Gear 4 after he used awakening was because he was tending to his organs (LITERALLY). If his organs are fine and he doesn’t act stupid, he just outlasts Boundman and kills Luffy.
 
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