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But again...
Usually the antagonist doesn’t get what they want. That’s kinda the point. I don’t know why people overlook this...
Yes but my point is that he doesn't want just any plain old death without some meaning or epic feeling to it, so it would be ironic to have him die a death that doesn't "complete a man" as he puts it.
Like otherwise he could probably just jump in the ocean or something.
 
I don’t believe Kin’emon > Zoro at all lmao. I just think it’s a bit presumptuous to support ZKK when feat-wise Zoro hasn’t shown that he has better ap than Kin’emon.
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I think the SSG will be able to restrain Kaido/let the WG hold him.
Feat wise he’s been given a lot of comparison to Oden and all the samurai shit Kaido has been saying. A lot of the contextual evidence is layered in between the overarching plot. So it’s a bit presumptuous to not believe Zoro will do anything if u think on it. But if u don’t, u don’t. I personally believe ZKK has a 10-20% of happening, and if Kaido does die it will be to Zoro. No one else has enough narrative clout to pull it off, at least not to the level of Zoro.
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B-but there's nothing Zoro cannot cut :stealthblack:
Zoro couldn’t cut the birdcage
 
It should be far easier for them to fight his base than his Dragon form.
I dont know why you think that, i dont agree.

I dont remember to EVER see a Zoan be better than his base or hibrid form. Ever. And kaido was not using hibrid or base.

And besides that kaido as a dragon is huge and becomes a way more easy target for 9 skilled samurais at same time.

So...now with a way smaller body and most than probably stronger than his Dragon he Will look better.
 

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No youre saying for a fact zoro wont kill him i dont want your bullshit.
I'm saying if One Piece remains One Piece, then yes, Zoro will not kill Kaido. I don't understand how this is bullshit?

It's a fact in the sense that everything that's been set up thematically for 1000 chapters is for that to be Luffy's role. If you're talking about possibility in a general sense, I guess anything is possible. But if you've been following a story that's consistent 100% of the time with certain themes and pay offs, why would you think it'll change?

I mean I'll admit I was wrong if Zoro actually kills Kaido. But it would be because Oda abandoned a 1000 chapter setup. I don't mean to purposely contentious, and I know you guys put alot of emotional investment arguing for certain points, I just don't think it's in the realm of the One Piece story to build up a plot line like this and not have it pay off the way it's been set up.
Luffy kos him what then ?
He gets captured ? Why would that work now when it failed 18 TIMES ?
The maines who are busy with warlords will magically show up take kaido away and wave luffy goodbye right so he can party on wano ? Lmfao no.
Bb has literally gone to take something before the marines so he himself is busy and will clash with the marines. This arc is not ending with luffy koing kaido but with kaidos head coming off as doji said a few chapters ago.
These are all good questions that I have no answers to. I have no idea what'll happen to Kaido after Luffy beats him.
 
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My opinion on this has been consistent for almost 2 years. I rarely look at any serious power level discussions here.

With all due respect, I could give 2 shits about what 99% of the users here think about my opinions on the story. Calling my takes "wanking" or "dick riding" is their prerogative. I'm not bothered by their hate. Cause I've seen what they like.

Either way, I wouldn't have accept Luffy not beating Kaido last year, last month, 2 years ago, 5 years ago, doesn't matter. Luffy will beat Kaido.

Also completely denying the possibility of Zoro fighting against Kaido is ignorant at anytime.

I don't read the series for one character, I know I'm in the minority here. Zoro is a 🐐 and one of my fav characters of any manga.

But if he kills Kaido I will genuinely question if hell froze over.
Understand me well, I was not attacking you per se, my point was that things can change. What you can see as not realistic now can become realistic few months later.

I personally do not think that Zoro will kill Kaido but I do not think that it is an outrageous claim. Imo Luffy beating Kaido and Zoro killing Kaido are not mutually exclusive.
 
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