Future Events One Piece Could End in Ch 1225

#23
Assuming Elbaf, Lodestar and Laugh Tale are the only locations left, each of those could be 80+ chapter arcs easily, so yeah I dont think we are ending at any point before 1350/1400 mark in this series.

Example:

- Elbaf, at minimum, should focus on the 4th RP right? Logically the Burned Scar Man should be the crew's next goal. In that case, Elbaf is probably longer than Egghead (60 chapters), at least as long as WCI (80 chapters)..

- If Lodestar is the so called grand war for all 4 RPs (i.e. Targeting Luffy's crew for having all 4), then Akainu, CG Blackbeard, and Shanks are probably going to be involved in said arc. Not to mention the possibility of Imu being involved here with the rest of the WG, along with the Revo's or a thousand other one piece characters. How this arc is anything shorter than 100 chapters if it deals with multiple antagonists frankly wouldnt make sense.


- Laugh Tale being the final fights and revelations against Blackbeard or Imu or anyone else, its still means its also a massive arc in of itself. 80-100 chapters, right?


Like just put these 3 arcs together and what they need to provably resolve still. How anyone thinks One Piece is ending anytime before 1300 is maniacal to me lol
Laugh Tale is not after Lodestar, it has a random location. In fact Lodestar only had the purpose about ancient stones lore drop and is useless to current Emperors.
 
#25
Laugh Tale is not after Lodestar, it has a random location. In fact Lodestar only had the purpose about ancient stones lore drop and is useless to current Emperors.
Lode star probably has a major part of the Rio poneglyphe. Law can go there and copy for Robin who he can then give it to on Laughtale
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Yeah anyone believing the story ends in 100 chapters with this pacing is just coping lol.
Pacing has been crazy. We have never had an arc prior to Egghead with so many major player conflicts resolved
 
#26
Laugh Tale is not after Lodestar, it has a random location. In fact Lodestar only had the purpose about ancient stones lore drop and is useless to current Emperors.
No guys...laugh tale is after Lodestar. Its been explained multiple times but people keep misinterpreting what Inuarashi and Roger were stating.

Lodestar is the last island you can physically get to with log poses. After that, they dont work. You NEED RPs to traverse the sea beyond that point.

Pay attention to Roger's dialogue here:



By definition, the "Final Island" via "Circumnavigating the globe" means theres an island beyond Lodestar.

The fact that Roger's concern was that when they got Lodestar everything went haywire suggests that there is another island beyond it, not that Laugh Tale is in some random location in or out of Grandline.


Tldr: As Roger states: Lodestar is the final destination of the log pose, NOT the final island on Grandline. That is Laugh Tale, and it is beyond Lodestar.
 
#28
Lode star probably has a major part of the Rio poneglyphe. Law can go there and copy for Robin who he can then give it to on Laughtale
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Pacing has been crazy. We have never had an arc prior to Egghead with so many major player conflicts resolved
? What major player conflicts were resolved in Egghead? All 5 Gorosei lived. Kizaru is still around lol. The arc did a lot for lore and plot, but it did nothing to whittle down Akainu and Imu's factions in this story....
 
#29
No guys...laugh tale is after Lodestar. Its been explained multiple times but people keep misinterpreting what Inuarashi and Roger were stating.

Lodestar is the last island you can physically get to with log poses. After that, they dont work. You NEED RPs to traverse the sea beyond that point.

Pay attention to Roger's dialogue here:



By definition, the "Final Island" via "Circumnavigating the globe" means theres an island beyond Lodestar.

The fact that Roger's concern was that when they got Lodestar everything went haywire suggests that there is another island beyond it, not that Laugh Tale is in some random location in or out of Grandline.


Tldr: As Roger states: Lodestar is the final destination of the log pose, NOT the final island on Grandline. That is Laugh Tale, and it is beyond Lodestar.
It can also be the final island simply because it has to come after Lodestar. You can't reach it before Lodestar, so it's the final one. Even Lodestar tells you that you must go to another island. It's also "final" when talking about importance. Laugh Tale can probably be anywhere.
 
#30
It can also be the final island simply because it has to come after Lodestar. You can't reach it before Lodestar, so it's the final one. Even Lodestar tells you that you must go to another island. It's also "final" when talking about importance. Laugh Tale can probably be anywhere.
As I said, read Roger's dialogue lol. By definition Circumnavigating the globe means going around the world, which he cant because Lodestar makes log poses go crazy.

He literally says there is one more island and that completes circumnavigation, and thats laugh tale. Being anywhere else but after Lodestar makes this sentence make zero sense.
 
#31
As I said, read Roger's dialogue lol. By definition Circumnavigating the globe means going around the world, which he cant because Lodestar makes log poses go crazy.

He literally says there is one more island and that completes circumnavigation, and thats laugh tale. Being anywhere else but after Lodestar makes this sentence make zero sense.
Even if he reaches Laugh Tale after Lode Star, that is not a circumnagivation of the globe unless he reaches Reverse Mountain. Roger's words should probably be intended as total exploration of the Grand Line.
 
#33
Even if he reaches Laugh Tale after Lode Star, that is not a circumnagivation of the globe unless he reaches Reverse Mountain. Roger's words should probably be intended as total exploration of the Grand Line.
I mean, if we want to get pedantic and make this complicated, this is exactly what Luffy means about becoming Pirate King lol, reaching Red Line a second time.


So yes, reaching Laugh Tale allows them to circumnagivate the globe and reach Red Line again.

And they shouldnt mean "total exploration of grand line" because thats never been the definition lol. Youd have to travel the grandline 6-8 times to see every island, thats not what Roger did here. He traveled around the world completely.
 
#35
I mean, if we want to get pedantic and make this complicated, this is exactly what Luffy means about becoming Pirate King lol, reaching Red Line a second time.


So yes, reaching Laugh Tale allows them to circumnagivate the globe and reach Red Line again.

And they shouldnt mean "total exploration of grand line" because thats never been the definition lol. Youd have to travel the grandline 6-8 times to see every island, thats not what Roger did here. He traveled around the world completely.
What Luffy is saying contradicts everything ever stated in the manga. It's repeated a hundred times that to be Pirate King you need to reach Laugh Tale, not Reverse Mountain! It's not even stated that Roger sailed straight to the wall. But interesting panels.
 
#36
What Luffy is saying contradicts everything ever stated in the manga. It's repeated a hundred times that to be Pirate King you need to reach Laugh Tale, not Reverse Mountain! It's not even stated that Roger sailed straight to the wall. But interesting panels.
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My guy we are going in circles. Nothing Luffy is stating is incorrect. If they go to Laugh Tale and then sail to Red Line, he'll have been Pirate King.

Hell, literally chapter 967 defines Roger being Pirate King as the person who successfully circumnagivated the world. Realize this was BEFORE he was executed and even revealed there was a treasure for people to find:

 
#37
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My guy we are going in circles. Nothing Luffy is stating is incorrect. If they go to Laugh Tale and then sail to Red Line, he'll have been Pirate King.

Hell, literally chapter 967 defines Roger being Pirate King as the person who successfully circumnagivated the world. Realize this was BEFORE he was executed and even revealed there was a treasure for people to find:

The Pirate King is the one who reaches Laugh Tale, the red line is irrelevant (unless Laugh Tale is there).
If you really want to circumnavigate the globe you can just get a Vivre Card from Crocus and it's done. With circumnavigation they probably mean a full run of the grand line islands.
 
#38
The Pirate King is the one who reaches Laugh Tale, the red line is irrelevant (unless Laugh Tale is there).
If you really want to circumnavigate the globe you can just get a Vivre Card from Crocus and it's done. With circumnavigation they probably mean a full run of the grand line islands.
I literally showed you a picture of people calling Roger Pirate King as someone who circumnagivated the globe successfully and you are just ignoring it. One Piece didnt even exist to the general public until Roger was executed. Why are you ignoring what Im saying to you lol?

You are making this far more complicated than it needs to be.

- Finding One Piece
- Learning the True History
- Going to Laugh tale
- Reaching Red Line again
- Circumnagivating the Globe

All mean the same thing, because Laugh Tale is after Lodestar and near Reverse Mountain. Being Pirate King means doing these things. Occam's razor bro.
 
#39
I don’t think Laughtale and Final War will be separate events. The Final War will take place on Laughtale primarily since everyone’s goal is the one piece .
The raid on Onigashima also only took place on one small island and took 70 chapters.
Even if everything concludes at Laughtale, it's EASILY a 100 chapter arc (SH crew vs BB crew, void century flashback, finale against Imu and the WG, side fights for other important characters like grand fleet, cross guild, Sabo, Dragon, Koby etc.)
 
#40
I literally showed you a picture of people calling Roger Pirate King as someone who circumnagivated the globe successfully and you are just ignoring it. One Piece didnt even exist to the general public until Roger was executed. Why are you ignoring what Im saying to you lol?

You are making this far more complicated than it needs to be.

- Finding One Piece
- Learning the True History
- Going to Laugh tale
- Reaching Red Line again
- Circumnagivating the Globe

All mean the same thing, because Laugh Tale is after Lodestar and near Reverse Mountain. Being Pirate King means doing these things. Occam's razor bro.
No-one in the history of this manga has ever cared about reaching the Red Line from behind, everything people care about is Laugh Tale. The guys in your panel probably didn't even know Laugh Tale existed. Being Pirate King in this new age is about reaching the last island and finding Roger's treasure.
 
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