General & Others ONE PIECE DEBUNK : "Luffy is the choosen one"

[Logiko]

Luffy is the biggest chosen one i've ever seen in manga, dude had everything lined up for him before even being born

he was born in the right place, by the right people, in the right time

That's called luck. And yes, this is one of the particularity of One Piece and Luffy, he is the luckiest guy on the planet. This luck has a narrative purpose, it's made you to think that Luffy will be the pirate King, that it is inevitable and instead of expecting him not to be, it makes you focus on his journey instead of the result of his journey.

But no. It does not make him the chosen one.

It would be pointless to call a moderator because I didn't really do anything bad. I just mentioned a medical condition without any negative nuance one or two times, before you even got so worked up about it and told me not to talk about it. You on the other hand constantly treat the forum people like ignorant retards for disagreeing with you

I never talk about the personnal life of others, I'm always talking about the subject or things related to the subject or the incapacity of people to understand said subject. So do the same please. You can tell me that I'm ignorant, but do not dwell on my mental health please.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

That's called luck. And yes, this is one of the particularity of One Piece and Luffy, he is the luckiest guy on the planet. This luck has a narrative purpose, it's made you to think that Luffy will be the pirate King, that it is inevitable and instead of expecting him not to be, it makes you focus on his journey instead of the result of his journey.

But no. It does not make him the chosen one.


I never talk about the personnal life of others, I'm always talking about the subject or things related to the subject or the incapacity of people to understand said subject. So do the same please. You can tell me that I'm ignorant, but do not dwell on my mental health please.

I am not so mean as to call you out even if it bothers you (unless you write me a 200 pages essay as a reply).

 

[Robin swan]

This is not a thing. Luffy simply reminds people of Joyboy, that's all.



I debunked the prophecies. Not a good argument.




No. Blackbeard has Pudding. And anyone with the voice of all thing should be able to do it.

In fact, there are high chances that Luffy does not find the One Piece first.



He didn't choose Luffy. He trusted Luffy and simply shared his hat with him. Shanks did not bring Luffy into any kind of specific environment. Also, there are big chances that Shanks do not know anything about the hat or Joy Boy.



Dragon



I would could that a simple narrative circoumstance. Going by that argument, you could say that Buggy is the chosen one because he managed to become an emperor and have constant strikes of luck on the grand line.



That could be the fruit helping Luffy. It would be logical with the concept of the will of the fruit. This still does not make him the narrative "the chosen one" . Simply the one that the fruit chose to rely on. Just like Luffy was choosen by the Strawhats to follow him.



Just stop mentionning my mental health. Or I will have to call a mod.


Yes.. but the lack of shading on Luffy feels strange to me.

Just a gut feeling. Surely nothing.

1. No luffy is literally the second coming of joyboy. Literally characters that knew joyboy said he has returned talking about luffy. Luffy is joyboy #2.

2. You didn't and it doesn't matter what you think manga is the manga. Having stuff predestined only for luffy makes luffy the chosen 1. You can't debunk that because that's how it was written. Unless you change the manga he is a chosen one type of character now.

3. I already addressed pudding and she doesn't have the ability to nor may never awakening the ability to read poneglyphs. Amd that not to say she even cooperates with them because they took out her family and kidnapped her. Like i said bb as a unreliable person who may never be ato read poneglyphs. Even if bb beat luffy which he won't but if he did he has no sure way to read the poneglyphs and would never be pk. Only way he can is by somehow convincing Robin to help him which would never happen or convincing pudding to help him and somehow awakening her ability to read poneglyphs which is still unlikely currently.

- Alsthlike I said luffy has ever single supposed rare ability in the show including voat. Guess what he has himself and a ally in momo that have voat which mean even more he's the only one that can ever reach Laughtale going of this claim.

 

[Logiko]

I am not so mean as to call you out even if it bothers you (unless you write me a 200 pages essay as a reply)

You do not call me out. You are talking about something that has no place here. So let's not do that.

1. No luffy is literally the second coming of joyboy. Literally characters that knew joyboy said he has returned talking about luffy. Luffy is joyboy #2.

No he is not. Emeth told that himself "I thought you were JoyBoy, sorry for misstaken you".

JoyBoy was someone else. It's like you were telling that Luffy is the second coming of Roger just because he has the same hat..

2. You didn't and it doesn't matter what you think manga is the manga. Having stuff predestined only for luffy makes luffy the chosen 1. You can't debunk that because that's how it was written. Unless you change the manga he is a chosen one type of character now.

Yes I did. Reread the thread. Prophecies do not influencing the future of Luffy in One Piece. So he will not be pirate King because he he the one saw in the prophecy. Therefore he is not the chosen one.

And no. That's not how it is written. Luffy is will be pirate king because of his action, choices and personnality. Not because he was a choosen who benefited forms of priviledge and given a power on the basis of his status only.

Luffy achievement are not undermined in anyway because of Nika.

3. I already addressed pudding and she doesn't have the ability to nor may never awakening the ability to read poneglyphs.

It was stated that the three eye tribe have this ability, so yes, has it, she just need to awaken it and since she is here, the chances are.. she will.

A few person could find the One Piece.

- Alsthlike I said luffy has ever single supposed rare ability in the show including voat.

Wrong:
- He can't control sea beast or Zunisha like Momo or Shiraoshi
- He can't sence the voices of people on a massive scale like Aisa or Eneru
- He can't see auras like Usopp
- He can't read poneglyphs or sence them like Roger or Robin
- He can't predict magically the wether like Nami
- He can't have multiple devil fruit like Blackbeard
- Without even talking about all the devil fruit abilities that he doesn't have.

 

[Blax Blah]

You do not call me out. You are talking about something that has no place here. So let's not do that.



No he is not. Emeth told that himself "I thought you were JoyBoy, sorry for misstaken you".

JoyBoy was someone else. It's like you were telling that Luffy is the second coming of Roger just because he has the same hat..



Yes I did. Reread the thread. Prophecies do not influencing the future of Luffy in One Piece. So he will not be pirate King because he he the one saw in the prophecy. Therefore he is not the chosen one.

And no. That's not how it is written. Luffy is will be pirate king because of his action, choices and personnality. Not because he was a choosen who benefited forms of priviledge and given a power on the basis of his status only.

Luffy achievement are not undermined in anyway because of Nika.


It was stated that the three eye tribe have this ability, so yes, has it, she just need to awaken it and since she is here, the chances are.. she will.

A few person could find the One Piece.



Wrong:
- He can't control sea beast or Zunisha like Momo or Shiraoshi
- He can't sence the voices of people on a massive scale like Aisa or Eneru
- He can't see auras like Usopp
- He can't read poneglyphs or sence them like Roger or Robin
- He can't predict magically the wether like Nami
- He can't have multiple devil fruit like Blackbeard
- Without even talking about all the devil fruit abilities that he doesn't have.

Please don't argue with each other over something like that,

 

[Robin swan]

You do not call me out. You are talking about something that has no place here. So let's not do that.



No he is not. Emeth told that himself "I thought you were JoyBoy, sorry for misstaken you".

JoyBoy was someone else. It's like you were telling that Luffy is the second coming of Roger just because he has the same hat..



Yes I did. Reread the thread. Prophecies do not influencing the future of Luffy in One Piece. So he will not be pirate King because he he the one saw in the prophecy. Therefore he is not the chosen one.

And no. That's not how it is written. Luffy is will be pirate king because of his action, choices and personnality. Not because he was a choosen who benefited forms of priviledge and given a power on the basis of his status only.

Luffy achievement are not undermined in anyway because of Nika.


It was stated that the three eye tribe have this ability, so yes, has it, she just need to awaken it and since she is here, the chances are.. she will.

A few person could find the One Piece.



Wrong:
- He can't control sea beast or Zunisha like Momo or Shiraoshi
- He can't sence the voices of people on a massive scale like Aisa or Eneru
- He can't see auras like Usopp
- He can't read poneglyphs or sence them like Roger or Robin
- He can't predict magically the wether like Nami
- He can't have multiple devil fruit like Blackbeard
- Without even talking about all the devil fruit abilities that he doesn't have.

1. Do you not know what second coming is? Luffy is the joyboy of this generation if you can't accept basic facts here just stop quoting me. If you are that desperate for luffy not to be a chosen one type character that you are willing to ignore obvious there's nothing to say to you because you deny reality.

2. Prophecies are core of a chosen 1 because only that character can do the thing that's prophesied. Nothing you say discounts that and you didn't debunk anything.

3. Yea just like every df has the ability to awaken or every body has the ability to awaken haki. It doesn't mean everyone does. I keep telling you pudding is unreliable and may not even cooperate with bb since they took out her family and kidnapped her. She may never awaken her ability to read poneglyphs and even if she does there's nothing saying she won't just keep lying to bb. She isn't a ally of bb or a part of his crew but a prisoner. Bb has no reliable way to read the poneglyphs so he can't find op. Yet again only luffy has a way to actually find laughtale because he's destined to be pk and nobody else will.

4. Luffy has awakening which is supposed to be rare, he has coc rare, he has adcoc which supposed to be rare, he has voat which is highly rare, he has a God df which is rare, he comes for highly infamous family which is rare, he has all 3 forms of adhaki which is rare to find even 1, etc. Luffy does have every supposedly rare ability. You are acting dumb like luffy isn't grant every special ability. No luffy can use ability of df he doesn't have that obvious but he mastered his df to awakening which is rare and most don't which is the point. Nobody honest would assume which I said every rare ability that meant all df or taking something specific to a character and saying luffy has it. No it's saying that every ability that's supposed to be rare that people can unlock luffy has all of them. Why dies he get everything? Because he's destined to be the one who changes the world. He's the one Roger was waiting for, he the 1 shanks bet his arm for his future, the one oden wrote about, the only one that's the new joyboy etc. There some much stuff that makes luffy the chosen one it crazy you think he isn't. If he wasn't the chosen 1 he should be dead once kaido killed him but literally his df brought him back to life. What other character could have this happen for them? No body but a chosen one.

 

[Buusatan94]

Luffy has been made such a chosen one and messiah, even to the point of retconning his devil fruit, that it hurts.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

No chosen one here, a completely normal event

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Just like Luffy being the only one with a body made of rubber and able to beat Enel

My goat