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Me say, katakuri is dead or had his fruit stolen and is almost dead=good for nothing for the war. Blackbeard sacked Big Mom while she was away. I say Blackbeard will get what he wants from Wano but Big Mom will take someone of his crew of damage BB hard when she'll discover that Katakuri was beaten by them.... Big Mom goes down, Blackbeard that a L but manages to have what he wanted plus a fruit, shanks doesnt show up because he is planning to beat BB after the war; kaido goes down probably, arrested ( finished by Luffy and killed by Kidd )
Yeah that's absolutely what's going to happen cause Mochi is everyone's dream fruit.
 
Could it be some pararel between Onigashima and Hiroshima? I was thinking that due to the extreme high level of power from basicaly everyone from this point on of the story this war has to be very tragic for sure. Between DF, awakenings, haki etc etc soon everyone can destroy the planeta so, following this Logic of power scale evo If somehow the end of the war is with some huge explosion by lets say a really special nukster call
Yeah that's absolutely what's going to happen cause Mochi is everyone's dream fruit.
Well, after seing Katakuri using it you bet it is a desirable fruit.
 
The bounties tells us a different story;

1-Kaido: 4.611.100,000

2-Big Mom: 4.388.000,000

3-Shanks: 4.048.900,000

4-Blackbeard: 2.247.600,000


However;

-Shanks is only a Yonko for 6 years,
-Blackbeard is only a Yonko for 1 year,

Kaido and Big mom? They are Yonko for at least 15 years. If Shanks can catch them in 6 years, and if Blackbeard can reach the half of their bounty in 1 year, then they are far more dangerous than Kaido and Big mom ever was. Shanks and Blackbeard are almost as dangerous as the main character Luffy who reached 1.5 billion in 2,5 years since the actual story began.

In terms of bounty progression ; Blackbeard and Shanks are superior.

And what about the story? Kaido and Big mom joined forces, and it was foreshadowed that Kaido is going to fall at the end of Wano Arc.

Luffy specifically said that Shanks can't be his first target and he also said that after Kaido, he will go after Big mom. So either way, Blackbeard and Shanks will be defeated only after Kaido and Big mom.

We've Moria as an arc boss after Lucci. While it's true that individually Lucci > Moria, but Moria's abilities as a schemer and his abilities as a shadow user which uses other people's powers against them, and using powerful corpses like Oars, made him a more formidable and a more dangerous opponent than Lucci, who was only an individually very strong opponent who had no ability to make a plan. Even a halfwit like Zoro could see Luffy's weakness;


Luffy had to use extra shadows to fight against Moria's ultimate weapon. (Nightmare Luffy).

Even if Kaido stays as the ultimate fighter, Blackbeard and Shanks will fight dirty, they will fight smarter than Kaido, and they will give more difficulty to the main character.

For people who think Shanks won't fight dirty, that's completely bullshit. Look what Shanks says about how they fight;



Shanks: ''We're pirates! And we don't play by the rules!''

Even if Kaido stays as strongest individually, they will be more difficult and dangerous opponents due to their nature as dirty fighters and schemers.

Blackbeard and Shanks > Kaido and Big mom.


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The bounties tells us a different story;

1-Kaido: 4.611.100,000

2-Big Mom: 4.388.000,000

3-Shanks: 4.048.900,000

4-Blackbeard: 2.247.600,000

However;

-Shanks is only a Yonko for 6 years,
-Blackbeard is only a Yonko for 1 year,

Kaido and Big mom? They are Yonko for at least 15 years. If Shanks can catch them in 6 years, and if Blackbeard can reach the half of their bounty in 1 year, then they are far more dangerous than Kaido and Big mom ever was. Shanks and Blackbeard are almost as dangerous as the main character Luffy who reached 1.5 billion in 2,5 years since the actual story began.

In terms of bounty progression ; Blackbeard and Shanks are superior.

And what about the story? Kaido and Big mom joined forces, and it was foreshadowed that Kaido is going to fall at the end of Wano Arc.

Luffy specifically said that Shanks can't be his first target and he also said that after Kaido, he will go after Big mom. So either way, Blackbeard and Shanks will be defeated only after Kaido and Big mom.

We've Moria as an arc boss after Lucci. While it's true that individually Lucci > Moria, but Moria's abilities as a schemer and his abilities as a shadow user which uses other people's powers against them, and using powerful corpses like Oars, made him a more formidable and a more dangerous opponent than Lucci, who was only an individually very strong opponent who had no ability to make a plan. Even a halfwit like Zoro could see Luffy's weakness;


Luffy had to use extra shadows to fight against Moria's ultimate weapon. (Nightmare Luffy).

Even if Kaido stays as the ultimate fighter, Blackbeard and Shanks will fight dirty, they will fight smarter than Kaido, and they will give more difficulty to the main character.

For people who think Shanks won't fight dirty, that's completely bullshit. Look what Shanks says about how they fight;



Shanks: ''We're pirates! And we don't play by the rules!''

Even if Kaido stays as strongest individually, they will be more difficult and dangerous opponents due to their nature as dirty fighters and schemers.

Blackbeard and Shanks > Kaido and Big mom.


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I put BB/shank above BM/Kaido too frfr. Eos BB would beat Kaido, shank takes BM the end.

Shanks bounty already being in the same range as there's a decade earlier. Pretty telling imo too, red God indeed....
 

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The bounties tells us a different story;

1-Kaido: 4.611.100,000

2-Big Mom: 4.388.000,000

3-Shanks: 4.048.900,000

4-Blackbeard: 2.247.600,000

However;

-Shanks is only a Yonko for 6 years,
-Blackbeard is only a Yonko for 1 year,

Kaido and Big mom? They are Yonko for at least 15 years. If Shanks can catch them in 6 years, and if Blackbeard can reach the half of their bounty in 1 year, then they are far more dangerous than Kaido and Big mom ever was. Shanks and Blackbeard are almost as dangerous as the main character Luffy who reached 1.5 billion in 2,5 years since the actual story began.

In terms of bounty progression ; Blackbeard and Shanks are superior.

And what about the story? Kaido and Big mom joined forces, and it was foreshadowed that Kaido is going to fall at the end of Wano Arc.

Luffy specifically said that Shanks can't be his first target and he also said that after Kaido, he will go after Big mom. So either way, Blackbeard and Shanks will be defeated only after Kaido and Big mom.

We've Moria as an arc boss after Lucci. While it's true that individually Lucci > Moria, but Moria's abilities as a schemer and his abilities as a shadow user which uses other people's powers against them, and using powerful corpses like Oars, made him a more formidable and a more dangerous opponent than Lucci, who was only an individually very strong opponent who had no ability to make a plan. Even a halfwit like Zoro could see Luffy's weakness;


Luffy had to use extra shadows to fight against Moria's ultimate weapon. (Nightmare Luffy).

Even if Kaido stays as the ultimate fighter, Blackbeard and Shanks will fight dirty, they will fight smarter than Kaido, and they will give more difficulty to the main character.

For people who think Shanks won't fight dirty, that's completely bullshit. Look what Shanks says about how they fight;



Shanks: ''We're pirates! And we don't play by the rules!''

Even if Kaido stays as strongest individually, they will be more difficult and dangerous opponents due to their nature as dirty fighters and schemers.

Blackbeard and Shanks > Kaido and Big mom.


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Yeah I have Shanks stronger than BM but weaker than Kaido in fair 1 vs 1.

BB will be the best at the end. Smarter than anybody, ruthless, will be powerful as hell etc. He will be a nightmare for Luffy to defeat. His only weakness is he is cocky.

But importance wise and plot wise and hype wise Shanks and BB are obviously ahead of Kaido and Big mom.
 
The bounties tells us a different story;

1-Kaido: 4.611.100,000

2-Big Mom: 4.388.000,000

3-Shanks: 4.048.900,000

4-Blackbeard: 2.247.600,000

However;

-Shanks is only a Yonko for 6 years,
-Blackbeard is only a Yonko for 1 year,

Kaido and Big mom? They are Yonko for at least 15 years. If Shanks can catch them in 6 years, and if Blackbeard can reach the half of their bounty in 1 year, then they are far more dangerous than Kaido and Big mom ever was. Shanks and Blackbeard are almost as dangerous as the main character Luffy who reached 1.5 billion in 2,5 years since the actual story began.

In terms of bounty progression ; Blackbeard and Shanks are superior.

And what about the story? Kaido and Big mom joined forces, and it was foreshadowed that Kaido is going to fall at the end of Wano Arc.

Luffy specifically said that Shanks can't be his first target and he also said that after Kaido, he will go after Big mom. So either way, Blackbeard and Shanks will be defeated only after Kaido and Big mom.

We've Moria as an arc boss after Lucci. While it's true that individually Lucci > Moria, but Moria's abilities as a schemer and his abilities as a shadow user which uses other people's powers against them, and using powerful corpses like Oars, made him a more formidable and a more dangerous opponent than Lucci, who was only an individually very strong opponent who had no ability to make a plan. Even a halfwit like Zoro could see Luffy's weakness;


Luffy had to use extra shadows to fight against Moria's ultimate weapon. (Nightmare Luffy).

Even if Kaido stays as the ultimate fighter, Blackbeard and Shanks will fight dirty, they will fight smarter than Kaido, and they will give more difficulty to the main character.

For people who think Shanks won't fight dirty, that's completely bullshit. Look what Shanks says about how they fight;



Shanks: ''We're pirates! And we don't play by the rules!''

Even if Kaido stays as strongest individually, they will be more difficult and dangerous opponents due to their nature as dirty fighters and schemers.

Blackbeard and Shanks > Kaido and Big mom.


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we dont know shanks' bounty before becoming a yonko though
 
The bounties tells us a different story;

1-Kaido: 4.611.100,000

2-Big Mom: 4.388.000,000

3-Shanks: 4.048.900,000

4-Blackbeard: 2.247.600,000

However;

-Shanks is only a Yonko for 6 years,
-Blackbeard is only a Yonko for 1 year,

Kaido and Big mom? They are Yonko for at least 15 years. If Shanks can catch them in 6 years, and if Blackbeard can reach the half of their bounty in 1 year, then they are far more dangerous than Kaido and Big mom ever was. Shanks and Blackbeard are almost as dangerous as the main character Luffy who reached 1.5 billion in 2,5 years since the actual story began.

In terms of bounty progression ; Blackbeard and Shanks are superior.

And what about the story? Kaido and Big mom joined forces, and it was foreshadowed that Kaido is going to fall at the end of Wano Arc.

Luffy specifically said that Shanks can't be his first target and he also said that after Kaido, he will go after Big mom. So either way, Blackbeard and Shanks will be defeated only after Kaido and Big mom.

We've Moria as an arc boss after Lucci. While it's true that individually Lucci > Moria, but Moria's abilities as a schemer and his abilities as a shadow user which uses other people's powers against them, and using powerful corpses like Oars, made him a more formidable and a more dangerous opponent than Lucci, who was only an individually very strong opponent who had no ability to make a plan. Even a halfwit like Zoro could see Luffy's weakness;


Luffy had to use extra shadows to fight against Moria's ultimate weapon. (Nightmare Luffy).

Even if Kaido stays as the ultimate fighter, Blackbeard and Shanks will fight dirty, they will fight smarter than Kaido, and they will give more difficulty to the main character.

For people who think Shanks won't fight dirty, that's completely bullshit. Look what Shanks says about how they fight;



Shanks: ''We're pirates! And we don't play by the rules!''

Even if Kaido stays as strongest individually, they will be more difficult and dangerous opponents due to their nature as dirty fighters and schemers.

Blackbeard and Shanks > Kaido and Big mom.


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Exactly, people need to stop underestimating Teach and Shanks. Big Mom deserves all the underestimation she gets :madmonk:
 
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The bounties tells us a different story;

1-Kaido: 4.611.100,000

2-Big Mom: 4.388.000,000

3-Shanks: 4.048.900,000

4-Blackbeard: 2.247.600,000

However;

-Shanks is only a Yonko for 6 years,
-Blackbeard is only a Yonko for 1 year,

Kaido and Big mom? They are Yonko for at least 15 years. If Shanks can catch them in 6 years, and if Blackbeard can reach the half of their bounty in 1 year, then they are far more dangerous than Kaido and Big mom ever was. Shanks and Blackbeard are almost as dangerous as the main character Luffy who reached 1.5 billion in 2,5 years since the actual story began.

In terms of bounty progression ; Blackbeard and Shanks are superior.

And what about the story? Kaido and Big mom joined forces, and it was foreshadowed that Kaido is going to fall at the end of Wano Arc.

Luffy specifically said that Shanks can't be his first target and he also said that after Kaido, he will go after Big mom. So either way, Blackbeard and Shanks will be defeated only after Kaido and Big mom.

We've Moria as an arc boss after Lucci. While it's true that individually Lucci > Moria, but Moria's abilities as a schemer and his abilities as a shadow user which uses other people's powers against them, and using powerful corpses like Oars, made him a more formidable and a more dangerous opponent than Lucci, who was only an individually very strong opponent who had no ability to make a plan. Even a halfwit like Zoro could see Luffy's weakness;


Luffy had to use extra shadows to fight against Moria's ultimate weapon. (Nightmare Luffy).

Even if Kaido stays as the ultimate fighter, Blackbeard and Shanks will fight dirty, they will fight smarter than Kaido, and they will give more difficulty to the main character.

For people who think Shanks won't fight dirty, that's completely bullshit. Look what Shanks says about how they fight;



Shanks: ''We're pirates! And we don't play by the rules!''

Even if Kaido stays as strongest individually, they will be more difficult and dangerous opponents due to their nature as dirty fighters and schemers.

Blackbeard and Shanks > Kaido and Big mom.


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Shanks and Teach are the strongest Yonko

they are end game

any one who should know how a story work will know the end game BOSSES (not just players) are ultimate monsters
 
in the way erkan is literally talking about shanks catching up in 6 years, but i doubt shanks was at 0 bounty like bb before lol, thats why it matters.
I never said Shanks had 0 bounty, stop making up shit from nothing.

As @Trafalgar_D_Law said, they were famous pirates long before Shanks was. If Shanks had a large bounty before being a Yonko, then Kaido and Big mom had bigger bounties before being a Yonko, just use your head for once and spare us from your bullshit please.
 
I never said Shanks had 0 bounty, stop making up shit from nothing.

As @Trafalgar_D_Law said, they were famous pirates long before Shanks was. If Shanks had a large bounty before being a Yonko, then Kaido and Big mom had bigger bounties before being a Yonko, just use your head once for a while and spare us from your bullshit please.
i also never said you said shanks had 0 bounty, stop making up shit from nothing.

my point still stands, you dont know what bounty shanks had before becoming a yonko, so you cant properly judge how his bounty grew in comparison to th other yonko.
 
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