Role Madness One Piece Mash 2.0

[MangoSenpai]

Lord Melkor: Duckt > Alexis*
Red Night: Alexis2282AE > Mr. Reloaded > Ratchet > unvote > Alexis*
Hayumi: MangoSenpai > unvote > Duckt > MangoSenpai > Alexis2282AE
Ratchet: Alexis2282AE
York: Alexis2282AE

I'd probably want to focus within this pool right now, out of which York is to me the least suspicious to me because of reasons

D1 I had Hayumi pretty hard in town, but they are a bit overly paranoid about me, but I'll do my due dilligence and iso these guys and I'll come back with my thoughts in a little bit

 

[MangoSenpai]

All jokes aside, I can usually read Melkor off his threadplay so let’s not all jump to the gun lol

He’s playing too aggressive to be scum so far probably lol

In later news, Melkor got quiet.

Went to bed or hoping to skate under the radar?

He’s probably scum

I think my way too early reads look something like this right now

town leans:
Naomi
Flower
Cata
Duckt
RN

maybe town
Yoho
Ratchet
Michelle
York

Null:
Reloaded
Orca
Paragorn
Jag
Ekko

Scum :
Mango
Alexis
Melkor

I think I’ve learned to historically read him correct.

I give this man a town read at every possible turn even when he tunnels me and tries to get me miselimmed every single game without fail, it’s actually quite iconic at this point.

But this is far from his town play so far lol

Between Alexis and Melkor, Alexis has been here more and done less. My issue is he hasn’t mass pinged for a lynch or actual hard pushed/tunnel visioned anyone yet.

Town Alexis doesn’t care, he’d have pointed fingers at everyone by now. That makes me feel like he has an agenda/is being more careful about his pushes.

ots of players Ratchet/Ekko/Michelle/Mango/York in null/don’t have a solid read on yet.

Why am I now null all of a sudden

Thought Mango as likely scum yesterday but he started contributing more towards the end of the day. He’s been MIA this dp so can no longer give him a free pass.

Guess I got my answer lol

Udell/Luka/Orca I’m ok with yeeting between these slots today I think

Pot/Michelle as secondary options.

Thought Mango as likely scum yesterday but he started contributing more towards the end of the day. He’s been MIA this dp so can no longer give him a free pass.

Don’t think Mango/Orca have compatibility based on his push yesterday.

Nor do Michelle/Orca.

All in all, having read through the iso of Hayumi he looks pretty alright to me. I'm just a bit iffy on his jump from LM to Alexis, completely misreading alexis after claiming to be able to read him correctly.

Also I'm not a big fan of him effectively soft defending Red Night here.

I can give the benefit of doubt since it was still from very early in the game, but it's worth taking into consideration.

In other words, not really feeling this direction has enough merit to go for

Vote Lynch Alexis

Votes Alexis because.. well, no reason at all.

The guy’s already hungry for a mislynch.
Scumloaded
Vote Lynch Reloaded

Vote Lynch Red Night

Just because I’m voting for your scummate?

Of course, can't have my boy Relo get bussed this early when he will carry me to the promised skooma victory

No reads but voted me.
I think you’re more aware of the situation than you want us to believe.

lelele, I come in to Relo getting mass voted and you just omgused him


what more backstory do I need

Reloaded didn’t betray himself with his declared will to lynch me, but by trying to protect scums and minimize their role.
He didn’t vote me btw. You’re OMGUS assumptions are then just shades.

All of this only to come back to this conclusion:

I will go for Alexis today because I don’t like that silence
Vote Lynch Alexis

Not to mention him completely ignoring Hayumi's plea to put more pressure on me by voting me

Can we get more pressure on this fruity fool

No reads but voted me.
I think you’re more aware of the situation than you want us to believe.

There are two people I was suspecting in this list. Mango and Reloaded, there is probably one of these two who’s scum. But I think Reloaded is most likely the scum I’m searching for.

Impressive

Vote Lynch Reloaded

Do you literally have nothing else to go on?

You've been saying the same two names this entire time.
From what I've read thus far it seems that you're trying to appear helpful and engaged with solving, but it lacks substance and conviction. Just a front.

I'd no problem voting this direction today.


Sidenote on Michelle

Vote Mr Reloaded When in doubt, sheep Flower

She seems to be going the safe route with sheeping Flower, I think it is also another piece that incriminates her here.


I'll continue later

 

[Michelle]

safe route with sheeping Flower,

1. I correctly identified Flower claiming as town. Why I trusted the claim? Because it had town Flower signature.
2. I came in the game where already were a lot of pages and after another absence I was at 15 pages. With no time to read I firstly gave my vote to the only TR I had.
3. Towards Eod I realised the game is quiet and without an interest to change the lynch so the 2 main wagons could be t/t and my take is that Waluigi is town and there's my day 1 contribution even without reading everything and of course no one cared and a very good town role got wasted and today everyone jumped on Melkor and I saw people still suspect Waluigi from posts I skimmed

Now I want to see what's incriminating from your Pov if you posted and I didn't read, say again or link

 

[Charlie]

@Ratchet @Naomi @Hayumi

Who are we voting

 

[Michelle]

I have a few pings I hope I didn't miss any of them

Whoever I find suspicious is usually based off my night actions. Which is why I only like traditional mafia. So obviously I trust no one, not even if you are confirmed because the whole situation surrounding it is highly suspicious and I will say why.


WE ALL SAW THIS. My question is why would anyone immediately start boasting about lie detecting Ratchet's post? To make yourself an open target for scum? I think the claim surrounding this was unnecessary. In the first place was Ratchet even suspicious enough to even warrant a check? It was literally so random the vibe I got from Hayumi is that he is trying hard to convince everyone he is town and the funny thing is we don't know who got converted last night. Then there is this:



Then immediately Hayumi jumps on this post and follow up with a push on Udell, this has been well coordinated and I am not even upset at this post. Almost as if he was waiting for an opportunity to have me killed.

So if you guys don't want to kill Pot Goblin take your pick between me and Hayumi that should also provide insight on Orca who was pushing off of nothing and Reloaded soft defense of me. My biggest issue with Orca is that he tunnels waaay to hard. How are you constantly harassing a player with 1 post DP1. Day 2 comes and he is still tunneling and his case on me makes absolutely no god damn sense. No one is posting anything of substance. Especially the individual who is tunneling me.

I made a comment about Naomi and then Ekko came and suggested that Naomi's playstyle changed. Not sure if he was trying to pocket me but I don't trust him either.

I'm not even going to lie at this point I am perfect lynch target so do it.

In my POE
Orca
Ekko
Reloaded
Hayumi

The dude who came in for Melkor because he was aggressive with his fluff
One of these low posters are likely to be scum but I can't be bother to build a case on an inactive player.

Now you all have potential targets based on what I flip, its a win win for town and this will be my last post of this phase. Peace out.

I like this post, my vote will not go in this direction.

Does it, though?

@Michelle

is this still your stance?

Nope. I unvoted, after all. And I want mafia not an indie

The best reason given to join a wagon- none!

That's happening when I can't read and I vote to check the gamestate.

Man.

The previous post you made a salient point only to undermine it for no reason in the very next breath.

Michelle. What.

Come now.

It happened not just once. This playerslist is wilder that it looks at the first glance

Naomi, I'm gonna mark you down as town for this post, because you likely Archangeled yourself.

@Michelle

you are aware I use the archangel towntell. I gotta figure out if Naomi is like aubette and it wouldn't work on her, or if she just spewed herself town and unaware of my alignment during this exchange.

Right now, leaning town.

idk what that towntell is, maybe you explained it but my mind didn't keep it.
However Naomi is not a player I will vote so I have time to make a read if I am alive. Until now her presence didn't tilt my radar.

Marr: Waluigi
bittersweet: Lord Melkor > EkkoLoJinx > Pot Goblin > Orca > Michelle > Udell > Udell
The Orca: Udell > Michelle > Udell
Waluigi: EkkoLoJinx (havent moved my vote yet from Melkor)
Hayumi: EkkoLoJinx > The Orca > Pot Goblin > Udell
Charlie: The Orca > Pot Goblin
EkkoLoJinx: Red Night > Pot Goblin
Naomi: Marr > Charlie > unvote > Marr > EkkoLoJinx > Waluigi
Luka: Pot Goblin
Udell: Pot Goblin
Michelle: Pot Goblin > UNVOTE
Red Night: Reloaded
Mr Reloaded: Orca


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Pot Goblin- 4 - Charlie, Ekko, Luka, Udell
Udell- 3 - Bittersweet, Orca, Hayumi,
Waluigi- 2 - Marr, Naomi
Ekko- 1 - Waluigi
Reloaded- 1 - Red Night
Orca- 1 - Reloaded
No vote- Michelle,
and everyone else hasnt placed a vote yet.

I don'tlike the wagons again
I said I liked Udell but he gave a Poe and left the vote oitside the Poe -.-

Lord Melkor: Duckt > Alexis*
Flower: Lord Melkor > Lord Melkor > Mr. Reloaded > MangoSenpai > Alexis2282AE > EkkoLoJinx > Alexis2282AE > Lord Melkor
EkkoLoJinx: Lord Melkor
Naomi: Polar Bear
bittersweat: Lord Melkor
Alexis2282AE: Duckt > Hayumi
Red Night: Alexis2282AE > Mr. Reloaded > Ratchet > unvote > Alexis*
Michelle: Mr. Reloaded > MangoSenpai > Alexis2282AE > EkkoLoJinx > Alexis2282AE > EkkoLoJinx*
Hayumi: MangoSenpai > unvote > Duckt > MangoSenpai > Alexis2282AE
MangoSenpai: Red Night > unvote > Lord Melkor > The Orca
Duckt: Mr. Reloaded > Unvote*
Paragorn: Yoho
Ratchet: Alexis2282AE
York: Alexis2282AE
Marr: Lord Melkor
The Orca: Polar Bear > Lord Melkor
Mr. Reloaded: Lord Melkor > The Orca
Charlie: The Orca


Lord Melkor - 5
Alexis2282AE - 5
The Orca - 3
Duckt - 1
Mr. Reloaded - 1
Polar Bear - 1
Yoho - 1
Hayumi - 1


So it looks like possibly a 50/50

But this post really really reeks..


Vote Lynch LM

It was explained he mistyped. He is a good player and I believe it's not a slip

Nah it doesn't even make sense with the first part of his sentence, I have no idea what he was trying to say. Maybe "I know from my PM I am not scum" or something.

See here an interpretation and Ratchet is not only town proved so with good intentions but also British and his language understanding is top notch. I don't see scum Melkor posting that regardless.

This is the second post I read from you that rises my eyebrows, Mango

 

[Duckt]

Does throwing personal insults normally work for you?

I'm sorry if it felt like an insult to you, that was not my intention
However it is silly to not have an explanation beyond "I'm not familiar with a mechanic" for wolf reading someone
Like if you don't know a mechanic, perhaps try to familiarise yourself with it if you want to doubt it or else your argument seems in bad faith

 

[Michelle]

@Ratchet @Naomi @Hayumi

Who are we voting

What's the current VC? It changed from what Waluigi posted?

 

[Duckt]

@Duckt


Pigs are funny or cool depending on their size

Thank
I'm honestly not sure if you can really put that much weight on them not responding to it tbh
Did you notice anything else that seemed Wolfy about them?

 

[Charlie]

What's the current VC? It changed from what Waluigi posted?

No idea tbh. I barely have internet rn

 

[Duckt]

@Duckt

Can you elaborate especially on Charlie?

I got a solver vibe from the latter at least.

Sell me.

Many of butter's posts have felt like in bad faith or like coming from a non town perspective
Some of their questions felt like they were trying to imply a direction or stance from me that I did not have so they seemed more like pushing a narrative than like keeping up and evaluating the actual game to me

Charlie felt sorta passive to me like they asked questions but didn't really care for an answer
And I feel like while giving summaries and vcs is useful it is also mostly busywork
Post 789 makes me wonder if they could be wolf with reloaded due to the wording seeming like wanting to discredit a wagon there
Plus the wording on the Alexis wagon could be interpreted as wanting to be able to say "but I wasn't on board with that" once he flips (the "I think?" part makes it sound like he wants nothing to do with the wagon)

Plus there might be bias involved on my side due to Charlie questioning if flower really had a mason in post 1112 even tho it states so in her flipped role description

The orca read is only explained very late even tho he voted him before, sorta feels like justifying keeping the same perhaps wrong direction over time

 

[Duckt]

Lean against this being a wolf.

Way too eager to be mech confirmed a wolf if wolf.

Nah before that they sorta freaked out over me suggesting to give Hayumi an option to lie detect them
So at this point it might just be a "wait someone pointed out my stance was not townie better change it" moment

 

[Duckt]

no way michelle is scum with above post count then me.

auto sus anyone voting her.

But someone else (waluigi I believe?) said Michelle doesn't hide as a wolf so that would check out with their post count

What confuses me is that their post count is so high yet most of what I remember of them is them saying they're busy or that it's late for them rn and none of their actual stances 🫠

 

[Duckt]

hi, same Askthepizzaguy here from season 2 champs, we've met before

Wait then we've played a game together on MU before, this one has less paint pictures in it than the last game we've played together tho :p

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

My only wonder is why Flower wasn't defended this night, I mean it was a really easy choice for anti-town to shoot that direction seeing as she basically outed herself as town for.. flower reasons.. almost from the getgo

Either an L protect player or she got strong armed. Cause you're right, too obvious of a kill

 

[Michelle]

But someone else (waluigi I believe?) said Michelle doesn't hide as a wolf so that would check out with their post count

What confuses me is that their post count is so high yet most of what I remember of them is them saying they're busy or that it's late for them rn and none of their actual stances 🫠

I have plenty of game related posts though idk why you didn't read them, probably because we are rarely together in the thread.
Naomi is right and I like that from her.

 

[Michelle]

No idea tbh. I barely have internet rn

So you just asked to have one more post?

 

[Michelle]

Wait then we've played a game together on MU before, this one has less paint pictures in it than the last game we've played together tho :p

Do you have a conclusion?

 

[Charlie]

So you just asked to have one more post?

Asked because i'm not following thread and these people i believe are town

 

[Fujishiro]

@Polar Bear has replaced @Marr​

 

[Michelle]

Asked because i'm not following thread and these people i believe are town

I have the same thought about the VC Waluigi posted but no one talks and idk how the VC looks like în this moment