1. We literally see smoke but I digress

2. Did he need the form to defeat the giant? No. Did he need it to oneshot the giant? Yes. The same luffy stated he may have needed g4 to take out ulti and this was the same luffy that obtained advanced ryou.

3. Bs logic. Both onepiece and dragonball operate with the premise of transformations and techniques. Haki usage is a technique while g5 is a transformation. Its retard logic to say that a technique at a person's weakest level is stronger than a person in their peek form (tranformation). This also applies to onepiece

4. FORCED:

done or produced with effort, exertion, or pressure

obtained or imposed by coercion or physical power.

1
: compelled by force or necessity



2
: done or produced with effort, exertion, or pressure


Luffy felt it as a necessity to use G5 against awakened lucci. Therefore by definition he was "forced" into using it
1- I don't remember Luffy ever saying that he needed g4 to defeat Ulti.

2- You can't use base luffy as a comparison in Luffy vs ulti, Luffy leveled up by fighting against Kaido on the roof after ulti, and his base form became even stronger, mastering Ryou and other hakis
So it's not the same.

I am also sure that nami defeated the ulti with zeus, does zeus have more attack power than base form luffy?
 
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