TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Where? Kishimoto is still talking about Naruto?

I believe it though, Shikamaru was the only one promoted(which makes sense, Naruto, Sasuke, Gaara and Lee were absolutely not fit for Chunin. I would only say Neji might not be because of his resentment to the Hyuga, but he became the first Jonin out of them for a reason)
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/naruto-anime-manga-chunin-exams-winner/

So from my understanding; By the start of the Chuunin Exams Arc, all contestants there, he had pegged Shikamaru as the winner.

But had to quickly introduce Orochimaru (by stage 2 of the exams) to speed the plot up.

So by the time Lee, Neji and Gaara were introduced and their ideas probably 70% cemented, he wanted Shikamaru to use his IQ to overcome them
 
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Sarutobi agreeing to offer up Hizashi as a sacrifice to pay back the Cloud after Hiashi killed one of their Jonin WHO WAS LITERALLY KIDNAPPING HIS DAUGHTER is some major cuck shit. The Cloud was clearly 100% in the wrong and Sarutobi let the Leaf be bullied by them. Hizashi was clearly way more powerful than that fodder Jonin that Hiashi one shot, so the Leaf came out the losers in that exchange
 
Kaido fighting trash like Big Mom is a massive L, thanks for bringing up how Oda never gave Kaido any top tier rivals or victories. Lol

Big Mom could have been Admiral level if she had been trained by the Navy, instead she wound up a YC2 Rox slave just like Crydo
Unless they could cure her hunger rampages, I believe that would have prevented her from becoming an Admiral.

Imagine Big Mom as an Admiral and then she randomly gets her hunger rampage because she is craving for some food, and then she starts attacking and killing everyone including the Marines soldiers.
 
True, but Gaara is supposed to be a monster beyond anyone else, cursed by a demon(in part 1, "tailed beasts" weren't even really a thing, Shikaku is supposed to be the cursed spirit of an old monk or some insane shit. Which is like 1000 times cooler then the wholesome chungus furry squad we got)
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@MarineHQ @TheAncientCenturion @soupongo

Sarutobi agreeing to offer up Hizashi as a sacrifice to pay back the Cloud after Hiashi killed one of their Jonin WHO WAS LITERALLY KIDNAPPING HIS DAUGHTER is some major cuck shit. The Cloud was clearly 100% in the wrong and Sarutobi let the Leaf be bullied by them. Hizashi was clearly way more powerful than that fodder Jonin that Hiashi one shot, so the Leaf came out the losers in that exchange
Yes, but the leaf village was essentially destroyed by the nine tails attack only a couple years earlier. The leaf couldn't win a fourth ninja world war against the cloud, which had a tamed tailed beast(Killer B) and was in a much better state. Plus, most ninja villages resented Konoha for the third ninja war(like the stone for example, and even the only ally they had, didn't like them much)

The only issue is not much came up of the cloud village plot line in Shippuden
 
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