Law literally saved Luffy in Marineford

Law and Kidd have had major impact to the story. Beating a yonko is more impactful to the world than all of what the SHs accomplished combined in pre-ts. It made every other major player move and shifted the power dynamic.

Law had important background narrative just like the Rocky Port Incident. Became a warlord, half responsible for the defeat of Joker - an underground mafia boss in the new world.

Law is also a D clan member whom will have a key role in the final war, like what are we talking about here
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Law was a major player all post-ts long, basically the deuteragonist. He‘s basically had more impact to the story than most top-tiers sitting on their ass.
Big Mom's defeat was due to the plot
She couldn't even use advcoc on screen
This was the worst nerf ever to a character
Mingo's defeat wasn't a big deal Luffy and his crew defeated his peers 2 years ago
The port incident made Kobe a hero while he's still a piece of trash
Kid and Law were just supporting characters to pave the way for Teach and Shanks
Even Oda himself admitted he thought Kid was a more important character than Law
 
entire Wano arc was for Kaido lol you can't really compare them
And we’ve seen Kids character for a hot minute as well. Even got some backstory in the SBS. It feels like Kids character arc (to me) is a cautionary tale of who Luffy would’ve ended up as if he didn’t listen to shanks’ advice as a kid. And death I think is the natural conclusion
 
Big Mom's defeat was due to the plot
She couldn't even use advcoc on screen
This was the worst nerf ever to a character
Mingo's defeat wasn't a big deal Luffy and his crew defeated his peers 2 years ago
The port incident made Kobe a hero while he's still a piece of trash
Kid and Law were just supporting characters to pave the way for Teach and Shanks
Even Oda himself admitted he thought Kid was a more important character than Law
This is insane cope :vistalaugh:
Yes, 400 chapters worth of plot progression where Law was one of the main drivers was not important because I don’t think it was.
 
Let's be honest if Kid uses advcoc all Zoro and Sanji's masterpiece will be ruined
This is why Yamato didn't join the crew
Oda doesn't want to piss off the second and third largest One Piece fandom
Kidd is already well above Sanji/Zoro.

He was defeated outside of Elbaf by an Acoc Divine Departure and people think he isn't going to return to learn acoc lmao. He's the only other supernova in the story besides the MC that has all 3 forms of haki and devil fruit awakening.

Kidd getting acoc wouldn't ruin anything related to Zoro/Sanji. They will always be fighting weaker opponents than kid, so it won't matter.
 
And we’ve seen Kids character for a hot minute as well. Even got some backstory in the SBS. It feels like Kids character arc (to me) is a cautionary tale of who Luffy would’ve ended up as if he didn’t listen to shanks’ advice as a kid. And death I think is the natural conclusion
nope not enough for an important character

anyways we can talk about this later on
 
This is insane cope :vistalaugh:
Yes, 400 chapters worth of plot progression where Law was one of the main drivers was not important because I don’t think it was.
He was just a small ally
Isn't it true that Luffy and his crew did all the fighting
Shanks and Teach are much more important
Just look at the crew of these two
Law couldn't even compete with half of the Yonko crew
What difference will it make in the future? Are Law and Kid going to be stronger than Kaido and Whitebeard?
Law's role was something like Robin after Alabasta
 
He was just a small ally
Isn't it true that Luffy and his crew did all the fighting
Shanks and Teach are much more important
Just look at the crew of these two
Law couldn't even compete with half of the Yonko crew
What difference will it make in the future? Are Law and Kid going to be stronger than Kaido and Whitebeard?
Law's role was something like Robin after Alabasta
He’s the biggest ally they’ve ever had and his contributions has worldwide impact.
He literally competed with Blackbeard’s crew, maybe you skipped the chapter. The marines was treating him like a pseudo-yonko, paralleling Shanks and WB meetup.

And we were talking about story impact here, Law has been vital to the story. Things won’t progress the same without him. He’s had more story impact than most top-tiers, not even joking.

Yes, him and Kidd could likely reach that level. It’s not farfetched at all, their Ls don’t mean much to their EoS level. Luffy has had more Ls than either of these guys in Wano alone. They are growing characters for a reason, not established and stagnant side characters.
 
He’s the biggest ally they’ve ever had and his contributions has worldwide impact.
He literally competed with Blackbeard’s crew, maybe you skipped the chapter. The marines was treating him like a pseudo-yonko, paralleling Shanks and WB meetup.

And we were talking about story impact here, Law has been vital to the story. Things won’t progress the same without him. He’s had more story impact than most top-tiers, not even joking.

Yes, him and Kidd could likely reach that level. It’s not farfetched at all, their Ls don’t mean much to their EoS level. Luffy has had more Ls than either of these guys in Wano alone. They are growing characters for a reason, not established and stagnant side characters.
I say like Robin
Everything that happened after Alabasta happened because of Robin
Did Law have a big impact?
His impact was even less than Luffy's 2 years ago
Luffy attacked the 3 main Marine buildings
Luffy defeated 2 warlords and Commander CP0
Luffy attracted the attention of Duffy and the Five Elders from that time on after Alabasta
Law couldn't even defeat Duffy without Luffy's help and needed an ally
 
I say like Robin
Everything that happened after Alabasta happened because of Robin
Did Law have a big impact?
His impact was even less than Luffy's 2 years ago
Luffy attacked the 3 main Marine buildings
Luffy defeated 2 warlords and Commander CP0
Luffy attracted the attention of Duffy and the Five Elders from that time on after Alabasta
Law couldn't even defeat Duffy without Luffy's help and needed an ally
Law became a warlord himself, defeated another warlord and partly responsible for the defeat of Kaido and BM. Law was a leader of the alliance that defeated Kaido, remember that. It all happened because of him and it was his idea, and beating Doffy was the initial start of that plan.

Luffy would have drowned against Kaido without Law’s crew btw. Luffy would have died in Marineford if Law didn’t operate on him btw. This guy did more favors for Luffy in retrospect lol.

Nope, defeating a yonko is a bigger deal to the world than everything Luffy did pre-ts. It literally destroys power dynamic, countries are shaken across the globe, etc. Mastermind of Rocky Port Incident which helped Coby and Blackbeard’s growth, we don’t know the full story there. He has these big impacts and interactions.

Remind me again what guys like Dragon have done lately? What about Shanks? Stop Marineford which we now know was just luck? The marines could have continued that war and they had fresh Mihawk, Sengoku, Garp and admirals on their side.
 
Law became a warlord himself, defeated another warlord and partly responsible for the defeat of Kaido and BM. Law was a leader of the alliance that defeated Kaido, remember that. It all happened because of him and it was his idea, and beating Doffy was the initial start of that plan.

Luffy would have drowned against Kaido without Law’s crew btw. Luffy would have died in Marineford if Law didn’t operate on him btw. This guy did more favors for Luffy in retrospect lol.

Nope, defeating a yonko is a bigger deal to the world than everything Luffy did pre-ts. It literally destroys power dynamic, countries are shaken across the globe, etc. Mastermind of Rocky Port Incident which helped Coby and Blackbeard’s growth, we don’t know the full story there. He has these big impacts and interactions.

Remind me again what guys like Dragon have done lately? What about Shanks? Stop Marineford which we now know was just luck? The marines could have continued that war and they had fresh Mihawk, Sengoku, Garp and admirals on their side.
Law was just the driving force behind the story, it has nothing to do with his individual strength. Sengoku mentioned earlier that Luffy is at the center of the new generation storm. Kinmon and Momo were also one of the leaders of the alliance. Duffy, Kaido and Big Mom were defeated because of Luffy and his crew. Without Luffy's crew, Law and Kid couldn't even get close to Kaido and Big Mom. Law became a warlord because of the 200 hearts of the other pirates. Otherwise, is Law a hypocritical character who did this to get close to Duffy? He didn't even intend to fight Kaido. Didn't Robin mention this? What is Shanks' role? In a literal sense, the Fiveelders admitted that they didn't want to make Shanks angry. He stopped Loki. Stopping the war was like a sudden change in Law's personality. There is no excuse. Every step Shanks takes, he mentions Luffy. Even Whitebeard asks Luffy if he is the heir to Shanks' hat. The importance of Dragon is also quite clear.
 
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