For me that's an issue with marines that are supposed to be good in general with how comically evil Oda made the WG. Fujitora is the only one who seems to be aware of it and actually take action
Akainu is pretty good too

He's overzealous sure. But he hates pirate scum, and actually speaks up against the gorosei

His betrayal of the wg will be peak :akasalt:
 
I was hoping kuzan to freeze him, intending to take him hostage but Shiryu would slice him up or Teach comes in with the stone cold quake slammer and shatters him to Kuzans shock even.

Maybe Teach might do a marineford style execution of him ironically. I see him using puddings DF to get all the true info of what happened on gods valley and to his father especially.
Completely agreed about the last part. ;)
 
Garp is your average retarded top tier that afks in the world and does do nothing like mihawk and co.

The problem is oda made him a marine (probally because the story was initially be way simpler) so he just looks like a walking meme because him doing in this instance make it worse despite him not doing anything else
Same with Lragon
My issue is that it feels Garp could have been more, there are instances where it feels he legit does care about justice and understand how the world works, (like his little discussion with Neptune & co after the reverie) but Oda never digged deeper, maybe because "old marine luffy" isn't allowed to think too much.
 

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Bro I can’t believe Luffy actually fucking lost a fight to Kizaru and Oda had to keep it subtle to not piss of his readers this is literally the most diabolical shit of all time 😭😭😭😭😭😭

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Yup, even Oda knows how bad this is for Luffy that's why he didn't want to draw it. This is the single best feat in the manga btw passively defeating a Yonkou with minimal damage.
 
It honestly wasn't subtle at all lol

The only people that truly denied it had an agenda

Everyone that could read knew it was obvious

Just look at people's reaction to the new episode. Almost every reactor instantly clocked that Kizaru fed Luffy

It was exactly like that in the manga (constantly cutting back to Kizaru while questioning where the food came from, Saturn wondering why Kizaru was so sluggish, etc)

Agenda simply blinded people
Yes they literally are saying its more clear in the anime ..
Like what ??? No its the exact same SHIT . I was expecting it to be more clear in the anime actually ..
 
My issue is that it feels Garp could have been more, there are instances where it feels he legit does care about justice and understand how the world works, (like his little discussion with Neptune & co after the reverie) but Oda never digged deeper, maybe because "old marine luffy" isn't allowed to think too much.
I mean yeah that how see garp
Like that chapter where he chilling on the beach just to hear the name roger "OH SHIT LOGER???" could be straight up from a meme lmao
 
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