News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[moreha9685]

Fire is evenly matched with ice, magma is superior to fire. These are the OP rules.

Fire is evenly matched with water (hence why Ace vs Jimbe took that long).
Magma and ice are both superior versions of those former powers (hence why Bakainu vs Kuzan could even remotely happen).

Aokiji's haki and stats > Akainu
Akainu has a top destructive DF, Aokiji has a gimmick DF.

You're speaking out of your ass, and Punk Hazard is proof of it.

 

[L57]

It was a 1v1 between Izo and Maha, fight took so long that we literally see Mr. Go wake up to witness the final clash
Izo is slightly above Maha

Damn izo even kocked him out to

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

bro, what disadvantage are you smokin about?
ice blocks magma's advancement
magna unfreezes ice
they're perfectly matched
the differences lie in haki, which Bakainu is superior in
Everything you can allot to Garp, Kuzan can do, and everything Kuzan can do, Bakainu does best

Great Avi

 

[[No Name]]

Really don't understand if people are saying that for agenda or genuinely forgot how Cp0 in general is called strongest force etc.

I like Mr.go agenda but the best we can do is putting him above Stussy

 

[Sentinel]

This is true. He had a massive DF disadvantage and still went toe to toe with Akainu.

DFless Kuzan vs Mihawk when?

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Akainu has a top destructive DF, Aokiji has a gimmick DF.

"Gimmick DF"

 

[centurion]

Really don't understand if people are saying that for agenda or genuinely forgot how Cp0 in general is called strongest force etc.

I like Mr.go agenda but the best we can do is putting him above Stussy

It is agenda.

Specifically from Yonkotards.

Its not about Mr. Go hype, its about Kaido killing the “”””””strongest CP0 agent”””””” (not true obviously)

Yoncucks are that desperate for feats, they’d even hype Crydo killing an already injured CP0 dude.

 

[Sentinel]

It is agenda.

Specifically from Yonkotards.

Its not about Mr. Go hype,

its about Kaido killing the “”””””strongest CP0 agent”””””” (not true obviously)

It's agenda vs agenda - Yonkofans vs Zorofans.

Meanwhile, us real Mr. Go fans suffer from these degens. We just want to wank Mr. Go in piece.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Lucci >> Guernica is just obvious from the manga.

 

[Steven]

Lucci>>>Mr Go

 

[The DevilMaster]

It is agenda.

Specifically from Yonkotards.

Its not about Mr. Go hype, its about Kaido killing the “”””””strongest CP0 agent”””””” (not true obviously)

Yoncucks are that desperate for feats, they’d even hype Crydo killing an already injured CP0 dude.

Most of the characters who died in OP at the hands of someone else were already injured beforehand.
Ace, Whitebeard, Corazon, Oden, Vegapunk, etc...

Kaidou didn't just kill the strongest agent of the government, but also the most monstrous samurai of Wano, Oden, the old woman Higurashi, the daimyo—this man is a killing machine. Not even the protagonist's plot armor saved him from death when faced with this monster.

And with the amount of evidence, it's likely that this monster even killed his own daughter's mother.

Regarding SR-GO, although his feats are a bit messy, he is undoubtedly at admiral level. We're talking about someone much stronger than awakened Lucci.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

DFless Kuzan vs Mihawk when?

The moment Mihawk cancels his DF, by then the fight is already over.

 

[Sentinel]

The moment Mihawk cancels his DF, by then the fight is already over.

I genuinely think DFless Kuzan, with ice gloves, is a good match-up for Mihawk since Kuzan matched Old Garp's striking strength with his own.

Kuzan is no Vista, so Mihawk's gonna put a loooot more efforts.

 

[SkySanji]

I genuinely think DFless Kuzan, with ice gloves, is a good match-up for Mihawk since Kuzan matched Old Garp's striking strength with his own.

Kuzan is no Vista, so Mihawk's gonna put a loooot more efforts.

So not DFless then?

 

[Sentinel]

So not DFless then?

I exclude the ice gloves.

 

[SkySanji]

I exclude the ice gloves.

So not DFless

 

[SakazOuki]

So not DFless

Supreme grade steel knuckles Kuzan vs Mihawk

 

[Sentinel]

So not DFless

Youre wrong
The ice gloves are there to protect Mihawk

 

[Lor D. Coast]

I genuinely think DFless Kuzan, with ice gloves, is a good match-up for Mihawk since Kuzan matched Old Garp's striking strength with his own.

Kuzan is no Vista, so Mihawk's gonna put a loooot more efforts.

You dreaming about something doesn't make it real, being extremely generous Kuzan can match the equivalent of 30% old Garp.

Vista is no YC18 Morley either and in this very same thread it was confirmed that the almighty Admirals struggled against him and Karasu.

 

[Steven]

Just means that Morley/Karasu>Vista

 

[Sentinel]

You dreaming about something doesn't make it real, being extremely generous Kuzan can match the equivalent of 30% old Garp.

Vista is no YC18 Morley either and in this very same thread it was confirmed that the almighty Admirals struggled against him and Karasu.

I guess you meant 300% Garp.

Vista is unironically Whitebeard's YC5 and Mihawk needed to postpone his battle meanwhile Waramaki was rather concerned about not harming Mary Geoise any further.