News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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CbShadow said:
Did you two even read my post?

Here it is:


The VC proves you can stack durability. What is easier to damage? A steel body or a buccaneer's body? Answer, buccaneers body.

The fact the buccaneer body combined with lunarian DNA makes S-Bear tougher and more durable. Then the same should be true for slice slice DF combined with lunarian DNA.
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The slice slice fruit wouldn’t harden any of their bodies cause they all are naturally more durable than steel without lunarian buffs since they’re built with cybernetics stronger than steel.

It’s not about stacking and not stacking, it’s about the fact that the dice dice fruit isn’t making Hawks body any harder cause it’s already harder than steel.
 
L57

L57

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kekaro said:
daz bones fruit, like every other parmecia, works, by morphing their orginal body. The moment he transform a body part it goes from lunarian defense to steel. Its the worst fruit of them all for defense its super funny you think its actually the best

I think you arent reading the manga :shocked: You comparing this to buccaneer DNA is even funnier
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Buddy kuma can be pierced by bullets :kobeha::kobeha::kobeha::kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:
Do that to daz bones
 
kekaro

kekaro

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L57 said:
Buddy kuma can be pierced by bullets :kobeha::kobeha::kobeha::kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:
Do that to daz bones
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That not the point l58
Your idolo said himself that he cant even damage them with their flames on (which they seem to keep on as they are not a brain amputeed train wreck char like king)

If S-Hawk decides to attack by using the dice dice fruit, like turning his leg into a blade for example, he goes from lunarian defense to a defense level that was already getting smashed pre-grandline

Meanwhile Bucaneer genes give you more endurance and higher pain tolerance, not some kind of armor. Its the superior combo with Lunarian Genes
 
CbShadow

CbShadow

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kekaro said:
daz bones fruit, like every other parmecia, works, by morphing their orginal body. The moment he transform a body part it goes from lunarian defense to steel. Its the worst fruit of them all for defense its super funny you think its actually the best

I think you arent reading the manga :shocked: You comparing this to buccaneer DNA is even funnier
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Sir Yasheen said:
The slice slice fruit wouldn’t harden any of their bodies cause they all are naturally more durable than steel without lunarian buffs since they’re built with cybernetics stronger than steel.

It’s not about stacking and not stacking, it’s about the fact that the dice dice fruit isn’t making Hawks body any harder cause it’s already harder than steel.
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This is taken from S-Bear VC:

S-Bear VC info:
The ultimate "strongest human" Seraphim, developed by Vegapunk. Based on the former Warlord Bartholomew Kuma, this Seraphim is even more silent and stoic than the original. It inherits the tough body traits of the extinct Lunarian race, combined with the lineage factor of the also-extinct Buccaneer race, which grants supreme physical durability. additionally, with the artificial Green Blood, it wields the powers of a Devil Fruit. Truly, it represents the pinnacle of human capability refined through science

Top Left Box next to Panel:
[Ultimate Iron-Wall Toughness]
S-Bear, inheriting the tough body traits of the Buccaneer race, boasts unmatched hardness even among the already resilient Seraphim.

This tells us durability can be stacked.

Buccaneers body are not hardened or as hard as steel. S-Hawk would have greater durability since durability can be stacked. Those are facts.
 
L57

L57

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kekaro said:
That not the point l58
Your idolo said himself that he cant even damage them with their flames on (which they seem to keep on as they are not a brain amputeed train wreck char like king)

If S-Hawk decides to attack by using the dice dice fruit, like turning his leg into a blade for example, he goes from lunarian defense to a defense level that was already getting smashed pre-grandline

Meanwhile Bucaneer genes give you more endurance and higher pain tolerance, not some kind of armor. Its the superior combo with Lunarian Genes
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Buddy they talk about hardness in that vc
What durability these mfs have? Pierced by fodder celestial dragons?

:shocked:
 
CbShadow

CbShadow

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kekaro said:
That not the point l58
Your idolo said himself that he cant even damage them with their flames on (which they seem to keep on as they are not a brain amputeed train wreck char like king)

If S-Hawk decides to attack by using the dice dice fruit, like turning his leg into a blade for example, he goes from lunarian defense to a defense level that was already getting smashed pre-grandline

Meanwhile Bucaneer genes give you more endurance and higher pain tolerance, not some kind of armor. Its the superior combo with Lunarian Genes
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It's not talking about endurance, it's talking about hardness and durability. Whether buccaneers have greater endurance is irrelevant.
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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CbShadow said:
This is taken from S-Bear VC:

S-Bear VC info:
The ultimate "strongest human" Seraphim, developed by Vegapunk. Based on the former Warlord Bartholomew Kuma, this Seraphim is even more silent and stoic than the original. It inherits the tough body traits of the extinct Lunarian race, combined with the lineage factor of the also-extinct Buccaneer race, which grants supreme physical durability. additionally, with the artificial Green Blood, it wields the powers of a Devil Fruit. Truly, it represents the pinnacle of human capability refined through science

Top Left Box next to Panel:
[Ultimate Iron-Wall Toughness]
S-Bear, inheriting the tough body traits of the Buccaneer race, boasts unmatched hardness even among the already resilient Seraphim.

This tells us durability can be stacked.

Buccaneers body are not hardened or as hard as steel. S-Hawk would have greater durability since durability can be stacked. Those are facts.
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I didn’t mention buccaneers bodies, read the posts.

Seraphim are made of cybernetics stronger than steel just like Kuma was. The dice dice fruit makes people’s body as hard as steel, but the seraphim bodies without buffs are already harder than steel because of the cybernetics.

S-Hawk isn’t getting higher durability because of his fruit because his body turning into a blade isn’t making him more durable. His body instead makes the blade more durable.
 
L57

L57

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Sir Yasheen said:
I didn’t mention buccaneers bodies, read the posts.

Seraphim are made of cybernetics stronger than steel just like Kuma was. The dice dice fruit makes people’s body as hard as steel, but the seraphim bodies without buffs are already harder than steel because of the cybernetics.

S-Hawk isn’t getting higher durability because of his fruit because his body turning into a blade isn’t making him more durable. His body instead makes the blade more durable.
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Seraphims are clones you clown
They arent made 100% of metal
Kuma only some parts had metal
 
kekaro

kekaro

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L57 said:
Buddy they talk about hardness in that vc
What durability these mfs have? Pierced by fodder celestial dragons?

:shocked:
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What part of he morphs his body part to attack into steel don't you understand, do I need to post the panel for you? Do you think your body part turning from lunarian to iron is good or what?

This is like the guy that said the swim swim fruit cant be used for FMK, I cant with this forum :josad:
CbShadow said:
It's not talking about endurance, it's talking about hardness and durability. Whether buccaneers have greater endurance is irrelevant.
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And I'm saying his DF is ass. You seen daz bones fight? He needs to turn his body parts to use his fruit. That means every time he attacks his DC goes down. Meaning he has actually the worst defense, while a buccaneer makes it better for defense because so far you cant top a lunarian body armor with flame on so actually a better combination

S-hawk having a steel body is a non factor, any paradise-level pirate is above that. Someone who makes such a strong attack that it would break through their lunarian defense will be not stopped by steel level hardness
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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L57 said:
"He blocked a slash from the strongest" never was "the strongest slash" bunch of misstranslations
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Every seraphim is called that
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Not every seraphim is called the “Ultimate seraphim”
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L57 said:
Seraphims are clones you clown
They arent made 100% of metal
Kuma only some parts had metal
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The seraphim are literally filled with the same tech as the pacifistas… or do you think they just shoot lasers naturally?
 
L57

L57

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kekaro said:
What part of he morphs his body part to attack into steel don't you understand, do I need to post the panel for you? Do you think your body part turning from lunarian to iron is good or what?
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Kumans vc states with his bucaner hardness and lunarian shit makes it even durable dumbo
Stop being a clown
Sir Yasheen said:
Not every seraphim is called the “Ultimate seraphim”
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The seraphim are literally filled with the same tech as the pacifistas… or do you think they just shoot lasers naturally?
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Yeah also not every seraphim is said to have "no combat weakness"
Their title is "the strongest humans" or sum bs like that
 
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