News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

are you trying to fool yourself ... we are talking about anything FORCE related

Shanks wanted to talk to WB. The WG tried to stop him. Shanks killed all of their fleet
but winning an argument is irrelevant to this
not to mention the very reason WB died was ignoring Shanks

Kaido and Shanks didn't JUST talked. they had a small fight in new world
Shanks USED force

just like when he used force at MF by a massive threat
Same as Shanks and Old WB. WB used force to make Shanks back off and not achieve his goal of stopping the war. SO if Shanks won against Kaido, then Old WB won against Shanks.
 
Same as Shanks and Old WB. WB used force to make Shanks back off and not achieve his goal of stopping the war. SO if Shanks won against Kaido, then Old WB won against Shanks.
no Shanks didn't use force in his argument
power was irrelevant from their meeting
Shanks didn't back off cause WB attacked him. he backed off cause there was NOTHING he could possibly do.

again ... don't fool yourself ... that meeting had no winner or loser ... it was A MEETING ... just like Shanks and Elders
but Shanks Vs Kaido wasn't A MEETING
 
no Shanks didn't use force in his argument
power was irrelevant from their meeting
FOrce and Power was pretty much shown essential in the meeting.
Shanks didn't back off cause WB attacked him. he backed off cause there was NOTHING he could possibly do.
In other words, SHanks was too weak to do anything.
again ... don't fool yourself ... that meeting had no winner or loser ... it was A MEETING ... just like Shanks and Elders
but Shanks Vs Kaido wasn't A MEETING
Same with Kaido vs Shanks except it was Kaido and King vs entire RH crew
 
In other words, SHanks was too weak to do anything.
in other words, Shanks have no authority to do anything
it's not his fault WB was too ignorance
and you know this ... but you have to dumb yourself to THIS level to jusfty what happened to Kaido
Shanks WON
Kaido LOST

Same with Kaido vs Shanks except it was Kaido and King vs entire RH crew
another big bs ... just cause we know King was there it don't means ONLY King was there

you people act as if we SEE the actual event it gonna save face for Kaido
while it can't be more wrong
Kaido respect/fear Shanks MORE THAN any man or woman alive
this alone should prove what ever happened was in favor of Shanks's hype JUST AS IT IS NOW


 
in other words, Shanks have no authority to do anything
it's not his fault WB was too ignorance
and you know this ... but you have to dumb yourself to THIS level to jusfty what happened to Kaido
Shanks WON
Kaido LOST



another big bs ... just cause we know King was there it don't means ONLY King was there

you people act as if we SEE the actual event it gonna save face for Kaido
while it can't be more wrong
Kaido respect/fear Shanks MORE THAN any man or woman alive
this alone should prove what ever happened was in favor of Shanks's hype JUST AS IT IS NOW
This Vs RH crew event is absent from Queen and Jack timelines. So only Kaido and King faced off against The entire RH crew. Kaido mad hype as the World's Strongest and Shanks even has less bounty.
 
This Vs RH crew event is absent from Queen and Jack timelines. So only Kaido and King faced off against The entire RH crew. Kaido mad hype as the World's Strongest and Shanks even has less bounty.
it doesn't matter if it's absent or not ... Manga is not VC's bitch ...
the last time Kaido wanted to go out of wano he went with all of his main crew
but he only took King to the greatest war of era? is that what you trying to say?!


and Shanks "lesser bounty" is understandable since he is 20 years younger than Kaido
Kaido in same age (39) was nowhere near a Yonko to begin with


- Shanks stopped Kaido from MF
- Kaido respect Shanks among people he consider greatest (and other 4 could beat him back then)
- Kaido took far more damage from lesser swordsman than Shanks
- Kaido clashed equally with far lesser Ad.CoC user

title and bounty and better on screen feat gives Kaido a claim over ANY MAN alive (for now)
I'm not mad at any Kaido fan for claiming Kaido > Shanks

but when people come up with nonesense like " Shanks used his crew to defeat another Yonko therefore it's a L"
you bet your ass I'm gonna fight back
 
it doesn't matter if it's absent or not ... Manga is not VC's bitch ...
the last time Kaido wanted to go out of wano he went with all of his main crew
but he only took King to the greatest war of era? is that what you trying to say?!
Beasts pirates have operated independently before. Look at Kaido attack on Kid alliance and Jack attacking Fujitora, Sengoku and Tsuru.
and Shanks "lesser bounty" is understandable since he is 20 years younger than Kaido
Kaido in same age (39) was nowhere near a Yonko to begin with
Kaido was already called the Strongest by Oden who saw WB and Roger. Oden even stated that if he can not defeat Kaido, no one could for a long time.

- Shanks stopped Kaido from
With his entire crew while Kaido only had King.
- Kaido respect Shanks among people he consider greatest (and other 4 could beat him back then)
Kaido beat Oden.
- Kaido took far more damage from lesser swordsman than Shanks
BB and Lord of the Coast are far weaker than Shanks and gave him scars and amputation.
- Kaido clashed equally with far lesser Ad.CoC user
Shanks clashed with Lihawk. Enough said who don't have CoC.
title and bounty and better on screen feat gives Kaido a claim over ANY MAN alive (for now)
I'm not mad at any Kaido fan for claiming Kaido > Shanks
Agree
but when people come up with nonesense like " Shanks used his crew to defeat another Yonko therefore it's a L"
you bet your ass I'm gonna fight back
Greater nonsense is claiming Shanks bitchslapped Kaido
 
FOrce and Power was pretty much shown essential in the meeting.

In other words, SHanks was too weak to do anything.

Same with Kaido vs Shanks except it was Kaido and King vs entire RH crew
Then again I disproved your headcanon about WSC = World's Strongest many times by simply showing you how Whitebeard was labeled WSM by some and Roger's equal by others.

Titles can be inconsistent and not universal even if you believe that Whitebeard was possibly no swordsman, therefore no inconsistency with Mihawk.
 
I am sure that they covered the part of King and Queen in the vivrecards on purpose, maybe there is written that King loves to trashtalk his rival so they put some words on It.
 
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