[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece: Water 7/Enies Lobby

[Lord Melkor]

vote lynch LordMelkor

Sorry, old chum. But if one of us must be scum, it ain't me.

What if we are both town?

 

[Worst]

What if we are both town?

That would be the greatest tragedy in the history of town

 

[MangoSenpai]

If Kiku is town and wasn't lying about his action as well as LM being town then there's an even greater mystery about where Worst's shot wounded up

 

[Worst]

If Kiku is town and wasn't lying about his action as well as LM being town then there's an even greater mystery about where Worst's shot wounded up

Set my shots free!

 

[Lord Melkor]

Riddle me this; Why would Scum!Kiku block Worst if they could redirect him to me?

You're eaten 2 bullets, albeit the first time you allegedly jailed Worst.

And yes, I have taken into account that Kiku's claim cannot be confirmed, I have made that very clear. It is WIFOM.

But the point is; I was not targeted with a kill - hence it looks bad for you.

I do not know what roles scum have, propably limited shots and may not be able to use all their stuff at single night perhaps?

Redirecting Worst would be a nobrainer if scum can do it, yet.

How do you know you were targetted by a kill if I jailed you?

 

[MangoSenpai]

Occams razor doesn't allow both LM and Kiku to be town.

And yes, I would have to assume that if Kiku was scum that he'd target Worst.


@Lord Melkor can you tell us in raw mafia terms what does your ability say?
Does it say the jailed target becomes untargetable or something in that ballpark?

 

[MangoSenpai]

I do not know what roles scum have, propably limited shots and may not be able to use all their stuff at single night perhaps?

Redirecting Worst would be a nobrainer if scum can do it, yet.

How do you know you were targetted by a kill if I jailed you?

Because as I've repeated numerous times, Naomi busdrove me with Zemmi - so if I was shot, Zemmi would be dead.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Because as I've repeated numerous times, Naomi busdrove me with Zemmi - so if I was shot, Zemmi would be dead.

And would Zemmi not be jailed then? I am confused.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Because as I've repeated numerous times, Naomi busdrove me with Zemmi - so if I was shot, Zemmi would be dead.

If we're gonna reach, there's a possibility that Zemmi was targeted with a kill and it went to me - but that would be highly strange.

Why would they pick off some near useless role over a watcher or even the vig himself.

 

[MangoSenpai]

And would Zemmi not be jailed then? I am confused.

You clearly aren't reading my progression.

While I don't have it set in stone, my working assumption is that Block (Jail) > Busdrive > Kill.

 

[Zemmi]

You clearly aren't reading my progression.

While I don't have it set in stone, my working assumption is that Block (Jail) > Busdrive > Kill.

Are you saying the bus drive would've failed? I think I'm missing something here.

 

[Lord Melkor]

While I don't have it set in stone, my working assumption is that Block (Jail) > Busdrive > Kill.[/QUOTE]

You clearly aren't reading my progression.

While I don't have it set in stone, my working assumption is that Block (Jail) > Busdrive > Kill.

Buss drive should priority I would say (unless maybe bussdriver was jailed), then jail/block, than kill. You can ask the host perhaps about the action resolution.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Are you saying the bus drive would've failed? I think I'm missing something here.

As far as I'm aware traditional mafia Jail is basically a RB+Doc, not ToS Jail where you're practically commuted.

In these games you pick jail target at night, so it's really just a stronger RB really.

 

[Pot Goblin]

But you are not confirmed to each other, correct? So neigbours rather than masons?

Correct

 

[MangoSenpai]

Buss drive should priority I would say (unless maybe bussdriver was jailed), then jail/block, than kill. You can ask the host perhaps about the action resolution.

I have requested, but as far as I can discern the most probable scenario is that RB > Bus, because my action straight up failed, which implies I was jailed. Not Zem.

 

[Worst]

Occams razor doesn't allow both LM and Kiku to be town.

If that's what the razor says it has to be LM i've been looking at Kiku's posts for hours ( ok maybe not really hours probably just a couple of minutes ) and i don't see anything suspicious

Regardless guys! I have to go on a meeting with about 8hrs of sleep and i can't miss that

By tomorrow i expect that you've outed all the scums or somebody will face my wrath

 

[MangoSenpai]

If that's what the razor says it has to be LM i've been looking at Kiku's posts for hours ( ok maybe not really hours probably just a couple of minutes ) and i don't see anything suspicious

Regardless guys! I have to go on a meeting with about 8hrs of sleep and i can't miss that

By tomorrow i expect that you've outed all the scums or somebody will face my wrath

Good luck Sogeknight

 

[Lord Melkor]

Occams razor doesn't allow both LM and Kiku to be town.

And yes, I would have to assume that if Kiku was scum that he'd target Worst.


@Lord Melkor can you tell us in raw mafia terms what does your ability say?
Does it say the jailed target becomes untargetable or something in that ballpark?

Target a player and jail them. Fuji confirmed it works as block + protect.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Let's keep track of hammer, majority is 8
Where be votes at rn?

 

[Zemmi]

If that's what the razor says it has to be LM i've been looking at Kiku's posts for hours ( ok maybe not really hours probably just a couple of minutes ) and i don't see anything suspicious

Regardless guys! I have to go on a meeting with about 8hrs of sleep and i can't miss that

By tomorrow i expect that you've outed all the scums or somebody will face my wrath

I know all players are different, but if I posted like them. @Flower and @MangoSenpai would of lynched me in a second.

I don't want to be held to a different standard