[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece: Water 7/Enies Lobby

[Lord Melkor]

Because I don't think he's town you big dumb idiot.

You are correct.

You are propably town.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I just don't see sir Ratchet lying about his SK claim since from my past knowledge these end up 99% in a lynch/VIG right away so he knows that after a claim like that his chances of survival are slim to none, I think he would've made better claims if he felt he was cornered and was mafia unless mafia knows there isn't a SK in the game and they can use it as a fake claim not sure if it's an info they have available

Ratchet proved last game he is capable of bold moves as scum.



@Flower are you sure Ratchet woud never fake claim indie as scum?

 

[Lord Melkor]

But he was jailed by melkor, so melkor would have lied or not hit his target

I think the usual convention is that non-investigative roles are not informed if their action fail. I can ask Fuji but pretty sure about it.

Maybe mafia had a revenge kill if they lose a member? I think there was something like this in Fuji's Whole Cake Island game.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Should we go Pot?

I am not feeling Pot this game, you propably have a better grasp on him though.

 

[Ratchet]

Lol, never expected Hattori to be such a character! Funny from Fuji, in the manga he was just a funny sidekick of CP0 Rob Lucci.

You have a history of never fake claiming indie, right?

Why are you confident Zemmi is town? And Mango, i quess he would not put as much effort as scum into solving?

Serial isn't Indie really, so don't use that to read me. It's an anti-town faction unto itself.

For Zemmi, you're asking me about meta established from familiarity which I can't really qualify. Some posts she has made I don't think she makes as scum, she's my strongest town read for a reason. Mango has felt genuine throughout, I had a town read of him yesterday and it's only further trended in that direction today.

 

[Ratchet]

@Flower are you sure Ratchet woud never fake claim indie as scum?

Why are you asking Flower?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Why are you asking Flower?

She was talking about in the past, knows you well and she was around when I asked this question.

 

[Ratchet]

She was talking about in the past, knows you well and she was around when I asked this question.

Okay, but you have seen that, repeatedly this game, she will fit her conclusions to what she wants to believe. So why would you expect an honest answer?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Basically I either want a tie or Yoho win. We have some time left to decide.

If you think Yoho is town, i believe that Rachet's flip gives us info and is less risky in current gamestate. I do not want to have 3 kills going around.

 

[Lord Melkor]

It‘s his focus. As Town he focuses on the strong players first. Does it make sense for him to completely ignore Ultra suspecting Ratchet and going for me instead? Don‘t think so.

Hmmm....

You are also a strong player though.

Does Cal have a history of strongly bussing his teammate day 1?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Okay, but you have seen that, repeatedly this game, she will fit her conclusions to what she wants to believe. So why would you expect an honest answer?

She is consdering leaving you alive to leash your kills, so she has apparently calmed now.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I hate to be in Cal's defense here, but how can you spot anti-town behavior from an uninformed Serial Killer who has no qualms whatsoever lynching scum?

SK may still play differently because his focus is Survival, nor finding scum - he needs to balance so he is not priority for both town and mafia.

I also commented on Ratchet's pushes being weak day 1.

 

[Ratchet]

She is consdering leaving you alive to leash your kills, so she has apparently calmed now.

You don't actually believe this. You would have seen that she was positing I could be fake claiming, I feel like you're asking this question to get an answer you want. You can go back to lean scum.

 

[Ratchet]

SK may still play differently because his focus is Survival, nor finding scum - he needs to balance so he is not priority for both town and mafia.

I also commented on Ratchet's pushes being weak day 1.

My pushes were exactly as they would have been as town. You never did qualify this "your pushes are weak" claim.

 

[Red Night]

How many votes do I have on me?

 

[Red Night]

I only have 5 votes on me

 

[Flower]

I only have 5 votes on me

6.

 

[Red Night]

Well, I'm Chopper

 

[Lord Melkor]

For the duel it has to be a tie or let Yoho win at this point, I think. No matter how much I would love for Ratchet to stay in the game, it would be ignorant to vote the other way.

As for the lynch. Pot doesn't appear scummy to me & for Red Night, I can't even remember much of what he's posted. Ripped overall appears scummy to but I think he always has in a game I played with him before. I think we can wait and figure it out a bit later after more people posts.

It's a 20 player game, but it feels like only a handful are playing. This might be because I got wrapped up in the Flower and Ratchet thing. And admittedly haven't payed enough attention in this phase.

You are kind of wish washy here, not fan of it. Did you ever give a proper read list?

 

[Lord Melkor]

My pushes were exactly as they would have been as town. You never did qualify this "your pushes are weak" claim.

Like you pushed me day 1 as your main push as scum last game?