Controversial One Piece's Problems are because of Japan's Toxic Work Culture, not Oda

#41
There are obvious overlaps in terms of societal values - respecting nature, decorum, preserving traditional arts, minimalist aesthetics - both people big on car culture, drinking culture, tech, etc. I don't known either, but apparently there are some interesting similarities language as well.
You pulled this out of your posterior, sorry.
 
#44
Shueisha is scared
They don't have any alternative of One piece
One piece is too big to end now.

Oda himself is obsessed with one piece.
He wants to tell every story he ever thought of.
Any kind of story can fit one piece world.
 

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#48
Toxic work environment is yes a piece of it, but it's more so a lack of an actual editorial team that's willing to tell him no. Or quite possibly he's just giving them the finger when/if they are speaking up.

Clearly there's no filter being placed and it's really showing.

Also Jump has no clear successor when OP ends as many of the other successful manga are coming to an end MHA/JJK, so it would not totally shock me if there was some corporate fuckery happening behind the scenes where he's being told to stall for as long as he can.

Would explain the length of the Vegapunk speech.
 
#49
I'm going to create a thread about this exact topic.(About the current sad state of Japanese pop culture,not about any specific manga series.)
It's already typed and saved here on my computer. I'm just waiting for the time when the forum is active,and all the users from the tag list are present.
I'm going to be tagging a large portion of the forum,but i'm confident this will be one of the best threads i've ever made. I promise this won't be another complaints thread or a wall of text. It will be a important topic for our community. Since we are an online community about Japanese pop culture,we are certainly in danger of a situation where Japanese pop culture is as dead as prehistoric animals. In this topic,i will talk about a hope that we can hold onto in this situation.
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#53
Toxic work environment is yes a piece of it, but it's more so a lack of an actual editorial team that's willing to tell him no. Or quite possibly he's just giving them the finger when/if they are speaking up.

Clearly there's no filter being placed and it's really showing.

Also Jump has no clear successor when OP ends as many of the other successful manga are coming to an end MHA/JJK, so it would not totally shock me if there was some corporate fuckery happening behind the scenes where he's being told to stall for as long as he can.

Would explain the length of the Vegapunk speech.
That's probably part of the issue but might even be not that big

People are crazy if they think one piece gonna end look at Naruto and Dragonball which are by now less successful and how much Toei and shuheisha suck off


Reality is one piece going on for more than 50 years probally, Oda is not above signing and nodding off stuff just like Toriyama or kishi oto did for cash
 
#54
The length and pace of the arcs, the lack of tension and real stakes, Nika, the lack of focus on and development for the Straw Hats not named Luffy, the lack of real adventures, too many side characters who are often terrible and take too much focus, etc...
:lawsigh:
People are crazy if they think one piece gonna end look at Naruto and Dragonball which are by now less successful and how much Toei and shuheisha suck off


Reality is one piece going on for more than 50 years probally, Oda is not above signing and nodding off stuff just like Toriyama or kishi oto did for cash
One Piece is not Naruto.

It was designed in EVERY WAYS to be a single closed story.

There is no "going beyond". UNLESS there is a spin Off but it won't be One Piece anymore and there will likely won't be the strawhats anymore.
 
#57
Toxic work environment is yes a piece of it, but it's more so a lack of an actual editorial team that's willing to tell him no. Or quite possibly he's just giving them the finger when/if they are speaking up.

Clearly there's no filter being placed and it's really showing.

Also Jump has no clear successor when OP ends as many of the other successful manga are coming to an end MHA/JJK, so it would not totally shock me if there was some corporate fuckery happening behind the scenes where he's being told to stall for as long as he can.

Would explain the length of the Vegapunk speech.
Yep. For reference in case anyone's curious of Oda's dynamic with his editors:


He'll shade them for even minor suggestions, and his editors are so toothless they don't dare offer suggestions on anything. Lack of a proper editorial team due to a crappy work environment.
 
#58
Yep. For reference in case anyone's curious of Oda's dynamic with his editors:


He'll shade them for even minor suggestions, and his editors are so toothless they don't dare offer suggestions on anything. Lack of a proper editorial team due to a crappy work environment.
Not having real editors or anyone to offer critics and tell you the flaws to your work and what you can do to correct them is never a good thing.
 
#59
:lawsigh:

One Piece is not Naruto.

It was designed in EVERY WAYS to be a single closed story.

There is no "going beyond". UNLESS there is a spin Off but it won't be One Piece anymore and there will likely won't be the strawhats anymore.
One Piece lends itself to sequels and spin-offs much easier than Naruto, which wasn’t originally planned to have them either.

If you don’t think there will be more One Piece after the manga ends, I have a bridge to sell you.

Even if none of it is good or lasts, they will try. Capital will not just walk away from a lucrative property like that.
 
#60
:lawsigh:

One Piece is not Naruto.

It was designed in EVERY WAYS to be a single closed story.

There is no "going beyond". UNLESS there is a spin Off but it won't be One Piece anymore and there will likely won't be the strawhats anymore.
That's right pal. One Piece after the timeskip has never been as good as it was before the timeskip, with Fishman Island, Punk Hazard and Dressrosa all having their own issues but the Yonko saga truly saw a decline in quality of the writing, starting during the second half of WCI right after the Tamatebakko box explosion, with the arc going off the rails after that.

And even WCI paled compared to Wano arc which is without a doubt the worst arc in One Piece so far, for the reasons already mentioned with its too long length, horrible pacing, the grievous lack of tension and stakes with too much plot armor and PIS to make it feel like the Straw Hats and their allies were really in danger; too much focus given to several side characters who were either boring or terrible such as Tama, Momonosuke, the Scabbards, Oden and Yamato; the terrible use and treatment of the Beast Pirates and even more horrible writing and treatment of Big Mom, lazy plot devices such as BM's amnesia or the waterfall; an ending after Onigashima that was ironically and paradoxally rushed compared to the slowness and stalling of the rest of the arc, etc...

And it doesn't look like Oda learned from his errors and decided to correct them with Egghead arc. It doesn't bode too well for the next arcs.
 
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