General & Others Overall Which Fight was Better? Zoro Vs King or Luffy Vs Katakuri?
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I have my issues with Luffy vs Katakuri (Luffy withstanding tons of punishment for literal hours when outclassed greatly, Brule being there for him to take a break) but it's still one of, if not, the best One Piece fight(s). Katakuri was great, the action itself was fantastic, at key moments early on things looked desperate for Luffy with Kata outclassing him with his own version of Luffy's moves and Snakeman was amazing. Plus, it has some of my favourite panels in the manga (Kata on his back with Luffy standing above him was so satisfying).
Zoro vs King is a really good fight (I wouldn't place it as Zoro's best but it's up there for sure). King was good, him dominating Zoro was surprising and exciting and Zoro figuring out King's weakness and dominating King was wonderful.
I'd give it to Luffy vs Katakuri anyday of the week. Only fights I feel compare are Luffy vs Lucci and a few other pre-timeskip fights from the Monster Trio.
Zoro vs King is a really good fight (I wouldn't place it as Zoro's best but it's up there for sure). King was good, him dominating Zoro was surprising and exciting and Zoro figuring out King's weakness and dominating King was wonderful.
I'd give it to Luffy vs Katakuri anyday of the week. Only fights I feel compare are Luffy vs Lucci and a few other pre-timeskip fights from the Monster Trio.
That's like only mr1 and King
Zoro vs King fight is definitely more entertaining fight between the two. I personally prefer that approach Oda went with, but it is short-lived. Usually the antagonist wait a bit before getting serious, but not King. perfect challenger for someone like Zoro, but for King to shine that bright versus Zoro, was like Kaido also had a "zoro", and he's a God from legend. King fighting style is very versatile, where he constantly use everything he has to offer to get the job done. He was still confident when zoro unlocked acoc(king>yamato)
Luffy vs Katakuri is a great fight, and I would say it's the best choreographed out of the two, but there are two reasons why it falls short for me: plot armor, and pacing.
Katakuri nerfed himself because his family interfered, but I dnt understand, that's what it means to have home advantage.
Oda wrote himself in a corner, because Katakuri had everything to win that fight, but instead choose to lose. Idk about that...
The fight pacing was an issue for me. The fight lasted too long.. Luffy running away from Katakuri, after running out of haki, was a drag reading thru that.
Zoro vs King edges them out. I watch fights to be entertained, and I enjoyed every moment with zoro overcoming his struggle, to becoming the KOH.
Luffy vs Katakuri is a great fight, and I would say it's the best choreographed out of the two, but there are two reasons why it falls short for me: plot armor, and pacing.
Katakuri nerfed himself because his family interfered, but I dnt understand, that's what it means to have home advantage.
Oda wrote himself in a corner, because Katakuri had everything to win that fight, but instead choose to lose. Idk about that...The fight pacing was an issue for me. The fight lasted too long.. Luffy running away from Katakuri, after running out of haki, was a drag reading thru that.
Zoro vs King edges them out. I watch fights to be entertained, and I enjoyed every moment with zoro overcoming his struggle, to becoming the KOH.
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King vs Zoro start pretty good and even had a great good battle, one of the best for Zoro and for me the number one in wano so far.
But it had few let downs...
First: It end to fast, both Zoro and King deserve a longer and better battle.
Second: King not having CoC and awakening was one of the biggest nonsense of Oda ever, especially when Zoro had adv CoC, we could have such a good CoC clash but nope Oda rushed it, also as firstmate and someone with 1.39B bounty and 47age old, awakening should be given.
Third: The story around King weakeness was too waste, overall the face and the whole background story feel so lackluster afterr Queen hyped up in his own battle. I want to see more of the character King, he kinda end with very short paneltime, Queen and Jack had their own arcs. Again waste of potential.
Last Point: Fight end to fast as said, the worst part, when Zoro learn his adv CoC, he kinda defeat King very fast, his weakeness was not even a point anymore, it felt like King was not a match for adv Zoro. I wish that after Zoro cut him with adv CoC, that King found answer to Zoro adv CoC but he didnĀ“t, in the moment when Zoro had adv CoC, it was over for King... It was to one side battle in the endphase and I kinda dislike fights where the Hero just need a powerup to be able to overpowering the villian pretty easily...
And in compare to above, Katakuri vs Luffy had all these what I dislike about King vs Zoro.
First: Katakuri vs Luffy was a long battle, great build up and lot of twists, Katakuri became a fandom top OP character.
Second: Katakuri had anything, he was destroying Luffy for 15chapters, he had strong CoA, he had future sight(adv CoO), at top he had CoC and even a great awakened power, also he could used his weapon prefectly, he was overall the monster allround fighter.
What I wish for King(Like CoC+Awakening), all these had Katakuri in his battle.
Third: Katakuri weakeness was a major part, had 2chapters for us reader to understand it, Oda build up it very slowly and good, not rushed it and even when his weakeness was exposed, Katakuri pretty much find very fast a answer, he didnĀ“t let his emotions controll him, a reason why G4 was pummeled. King couldnĀ“t do it, Zoro even state it and show that King was actually nervous and scared about Zoro finding out his weakeness. Katakuri was shown as perfect fighter, while with King I feel it like he was scared and lose the controll of the battle.
Last: Even when Luffy had his powerups(Future sight and G4 Snakeman), he couldnĀ“t controll and beat Katakurii easily like Zoro did with King. Katakuri directly understand Luffy power, he directly found a counter and perfectly fight back. For the firsttime finally a Villian wasnĀ“t trashed in the moment when someone got a powerup. Hell even with the powerup, Snakeman was pummeled, Katakuri had the upperhand. And the fight end in a way, which a villian in OP never got so far!! Both he and Luffy fall, he was still standing after Luffy finisher. Katakuri got so much love of Oda, I doubt any villian of the strawhats who arenĀ“t named as Luffy, will ever got such a threatment. A villian who was standing after the last attack of Luffy and even then got a epic portrayal.
In compare Katakuri vs Luffy was better then King vs Zoro, duo the reasons what I write above.
King vs Zoro had the potential to surpass Kata vs Luffy, but sadly Oda rushed it so he could make his volume count perfect...
But it had few let downs...
First: It end to fast, both Zoro and King deserve a longer and better battle.
Second: King not having CoC and awakening was one of the biggest nonsense of Oda ever, especially when Zoro had adv CoC, we could have such a good CoC clash but nope Oda rushed it, also as firstmate and someone with 1.39B bounty and 47age old, awakening should be given.
Third: The story around King weakeness was too waste, overall the face and the whole background story feel so lackluster afterr Queen hyped up in his own battle. I want to see more of the character King, he kinda end with very short paneltime, Queen and Jack had their own arcs. Again waste of potential.
Last Point: Fight end to fast as said, the worst part, when Zoro learn his adv CoC, he kinda defeat King very fast, his weakeness was not even a point anymore, it felt like King was not a match for adv Zoro. I wish that after Zoro cut him with adv CoC, that King found answer to Zoro adv CoC but he didnĀ“t, in the moment when Zoro had adv CoC, it was over for King... It was to one side battle in the endphase and I kinda dislike fights where the Hero just need a powerup to be able to overpowering the villian pretty easily...
And in compare to above, Katakuri vs Luffy had all these what I dislike about King vs Zoro.
First: Katakuri vs Luffy was a long battle, great build up and lot of twists, Katakuri became a fandom top OP character.
Second: Katakuri had anything, he was destroying Luffy for 15chapters, he had strong CoA, he had future sight(adv CoO), at top he had CoC and even a great awakened power, also he could used his weapon prefectly, he was overall the monster allround fighter.
What I wish for King(Like CoC+Awakening), all these had Katakuri in his battle.
Third: Katakuri weakeness was a major part, had 2chapters for us reader to understand it, Oda build up it very slowly and good, not rushed it and even when his weakeness was exposed, Katakuri pretty much find very fast a answer, he didnĀ“t let his emotions controll him, a reason why G4 was pummeled. King couldnĀ“t do it, Zoro even state it and show that King was actually nervous and scared about Zoro finding out his weakeness. Katakuri was shown as perfect fighter, while with King I feel it like he was scared and lose the controll of the battle.
Last: Even when Luffy had his powerups(Future sight and G4 Snakeman), he couldnĀ“t controll and beat Katakurii easily like Zoro did with King. Katakuri directly understand Luffy power, he directly found a counter and perfectly fight back. For the firsttime finally a Villian wasnĀ“t trashed in the moment when someone got a powerup. Hell even with the powerup, Snakeman was pummeled, Katakuri had the upperhand. And the fight end in a way, which a villian in OP never got so far!! Both he and Luffy fall, he was still standing after Luffy finisher. Katakuri got so much love of Oda, I doubt any villian of the strawhats who arenĀ“t named as Luffy, will ever got such a threatment. A villian who was standing after the last attack of Luffy and even then got a epic portrayal.
In compare Katakuri vs Luffy was better then King vs Zoro, duo the reasons what I write above.
King vs Zoro had the potential to surpass Kata vs Luffy, but sadly Oda rushed it so he could make his volume count perfect...
King vs Zoro was in all honesty a low budget Luffy va Kata letās be honest
No disrespect to the homie TAC cause ik how much he loves king but the whole āI am the most serious and badass of the commandersā, āI have a cheap gimmick to where I canāt be hitā and āI will kill anyone who seeās my true faceā things are so lame and chiche+copy and pasted
King goes from piss diffing zoro the entirety of the fight just like Kata did Luffy only for Luffy and Zoro to get a flashback+plot induced power up to win
King legit is a dollar store Kata š¤·š¾āāļø and thatās just that. It pales in comparison to the original, a completely rushed and sloppy flop
Luffy vs Kata wins no competition
No disrespect to the homie TAC cause ik how much he loves king but the whole āI am the most serious and badass of the commandersā, āI have a cheap gimmick to where I canāt be hitā and āI will kill anyone who seeās my true faceā things are so lame and chiche+copy and pasted
King goes from piss diffing zoro the entirety of the fight just like Kata did Luffy only for Luffy and Zoro to get a flashback+plot induced power up to win
King legit is a dollar store Kata š¤·š¾āāļø and thatās just that. It pales in comparison to the original, a completely rushed and sloppy flop
Luffy vs Kata wins no competition
Zoro vs King fight is definitely more entertaining fight between the two. I personally prefer that approach Oda went with, but it is short-lived. Usually the antagonist wait a bit before getting serious, but not King. perfect challenger for someone like Zoro, but for King to shine that bright versus Zoro, was like Kaido also had a "zoro", and he's a God from legend. King fighting style is very versatile, where he constantly use everything he has to offer to get the job done. He was still confident when zoro unlocked acoc(king>yamato)
Luffy vs Katakuri is a great fight, and I would say it's the best choreographed out of the two, but there are two reasons why it falls short for me: plot armor, and pacing.
Katakuri nerfed himself because his family interfered, but I dnt understand, that's what it means to have home advantage.Oda wrote himself in a corner, because Katakuri had everything to win that fight, but instead choose to lose. Idk about that...
The fight pacing was an issue for me. The fight lasted too long.. Luffy running away from Katakuri, after running out of haki, was a drag reading thru that.
Zoro vs King edges them out. I watch fights to be entertained, and I enjoyed every moment with zoro overcoming his struggle, to becoming the KOH.
Luffy vs Katakuri is a great fight, and I would say it's the best choreographed out of the two, but there are two reasons why it falls short for me: plot armor, and pacing.
Katakuri nerfed himself because his family interfered, but I dnt understand, that's what it means to have home advantage.
Oda wrote himself in a corner, because Katakuri had everything to win that fight, but instead choose to lose. Idk about that...The fight pacing was an issue for me. The fight lasted too long.. Luffy running away from Katakuri, after running out of haki, was a drag reading thru that.
Zoro vs King edges them out. I watch fights to be entertained, and I enjoyed every moment with zoro overcoming his struggle, to becoming the KOH.
Even after the fight Kata was still stronger
But Luffy won the mental battle. He had a reason to continue fighting, Kata didnāt so overall he lost
Both are Conquerors so when one loses the will to continue, it just means Luffyās will was stronger
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Sanji would piss on Zoro and King fuck u mean?