[FNZ] Role Madness Overlord Mafia Game Thread

[Flower]

wats ur poe if worst flips scum?

I‘d need to see his flip first. But it would clear a lot of people for me, at least.

I would clear Michelle since she usually doesn’t bus.

I would clear Lanji since he never plays around a team mate like this.

I would also clear Ultra assuming you and Worst aren’t scum/scum. His MO as scum would be to hard bus and then take control of the thread.

Crying would also move to solid Town reads.

Orca should always be Town. Same for Hayumi and Kiku. The latter is confirmed by me due to your kill failing.

If you’re Town Hime should also be clear.


Would also clear Yoho unless he‘s a Rolewatcher.

Pero just looks Townie overall.

I would also move Ratchet to solid Towns.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I didn't felt that way. What i do recognise is most of discussions have revolved arround them so it'd give us info.​

Just giving context

 

[Flower]

Most of those were already my Town reads, but a Worst scum flip would solidify those for me.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

fodder like that should be dealt with by a vig

Nah they aren't bad, usually the signs for town Crying is they try 5d game moves, i didn't felt that about them this game. They try role fishing a lot as town, didn't read enough to confirm if they did that or not this game.​

 

[Michelle]

i mean, wheras i agree in general, at least she's wasting resources on i assume town if she's scum, so wouldn't make her a priority for that alone

Not a priority but a player to analyze and check actions later after a few flips.

What‘s weird about my pushes? I‘m pushing people who are treating me in absolute bad faith. Are you saying I should just take that gaslighting and putting words into my mouth and that that‘s Townie??

See, omgus-ing everyone is not something to give you towny points. Also the gaslighting accusations are exaggerated imo.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Most of those were already my Town reads, but a Worst scum flip would solidify those for me.

Why is he scum flip though, did you skip my post Flowa. Thoughts on it pls​

 

[Flower]

Why is he scum flip though, did you skip my post Flowa. Thoughts on it pls​

What post?

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Ekko is being voted because he's suspected of sending message to Soul to recruit him, which ended up being sent to Charlie. Charlie outted the message, got mid killed. Soul believed that the message could only come from Ekko, and the day ended earlier when the votes were more on Soul. Ending in Soul lynch, this seem to benefit you Ekko who was 2nd wagon at that time.

While Worst is being voted because he was the last vote on Soul, before the day ended. To assume Worst is scum here is to believe Scums decided to throw away Worst to get Soul killed who was already being voted? Why.

It's risky play with little reward. Don't see any rationality behind this play unless I'm missing something here. Thoughts?​

Here @Flower

 

[Charlie]

it seems there is an inconsistency with mechs with ekko -- worst

yo

is it? what is it?

 

[Ultra]

ultra i hoped to just sheep but rn idk if he even cares who get's lynched, so idk

This feels motivated. I think you've been avoiding addressing Worst directly, and you've instead been trying to frame the discussion in terms of Ekko's behavior or mine to not vote him.

 

[Flower]

Here @Flower

I mean, I can see an angle where Worst just wanted to do a bold powerplay. He isn’t really a coward as scum. There‘s always a chance it‘s seen as too scummy to be scum, too.

 

[Flower]

So that angle doesn’t really do much for me tbh.

 

[Ultra]

oh

i mostly went back to see if worst visited ekko and thought it's weird

wdyt of them both being roleblocker tho?

@Worst do you have thoughts on York being roleblocker too?

he claimed after york claimed

tbh, it's kinda risky to fake claim roleblocker after there's "confirmed" roleblocker claim i think

Also I think Charles here is looking for an angle in which he can clear Worst from contradicting claims, despite this logically being really neutral at best and at worst suggests there's probably one scum here

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

yo

i am attracted to page counts

here u go. understanding this might be better than reading all the pages

also ekko is top wagon so u might want to iso him

mech so far


Charlie got modkilled for releasing a message he intercepted that claims to be the cult leader asking to recruit sk. sk claims he didn't get a message and flipped town

D1 day ended early. top wagons were ekko, ali, orca (need to double check)

mango michelle or Orwellian have double votes. michelle claims not to have it

D2 ekko claims to have shot at flower and to be shot at but has enough hp to survive it and has a passive that notifies him of it. flower claims to have used an os-shield. she wasn't informed about a kill so she says ekko is lying. flower says they get informed if a kill happens

D2 ratchet claims to be hit with a kill N1 and knows this due to a passive

D1 Charlie 2.0 claims to have redirections. D2 clarified that it redirects to a random person and they used it on letha/am N1

D2 yoho claims to watch ekko N1 and that hayumi, orca, lanji, and worst visited ekko. In a later post they say Fuji told them York also visited

D2 Orwellian claims to be poisoned

D2 York claimed to RB Ekko N1 (but did not show up as visiting ekko by yoho until it was corrected)

D2 Flower claims poison healer

D2 ekko claims to be ains lv100 and that the only kills that could hit him are factional kills or lv80+. he has a bunch of killing abilities and cool passives he says. D2 ekko claims to get rolecrushed for a phase

Orca claims to use an ability on ekko N1 that lets him see his health. this made Orca think ekko was GF D2 and was openly outing it. Orca later clarified it shows level and if ppl are max level or not and ekko is max level

N1 Hayumi did a 1 shot difference check on hime and ekko and got that their alignments are compatible

D2 Charlie says they can make ppl untamperable

D2 flower claims to refill hayumi and hayumi confirms

D2 worst claims being able to see if ppl have used a killing action. used it on ekko N1 and got no kill

@Charlie

 

[Charlie]

This feels motivated. I think you've been avoiding addressing Worst directly, and you've instead been trying to frame the discussion in terms of Ekko's behavior or mine to not vote him.

i mean it is motivated, you're saying ekko is scum and then tell me to vote worst

 

[Charlie]

@Charlie

i mean it's not really inconsistency if he got blocked by york

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Just giving context

Mech thing i can organise is my head is,

Yoho watched Orca, Hayumi, Worst, York, Lanji visit Ekko. Ekko claimed to have his kill stopped, and also got targeted by a kill shot. York claimed to have rbed them.
Ekko tried to shoot Flowa, but Flowa claims to not get notified of any kill shot. York rb worked.

One of the targets shot Ekko. Worst claim is kill cop, if they used a kill shot or not. They didn't in Worst result because got role blocked again by York?

 

[Charlie]

Also I think Charles here is looking for an angle in which he can clear Worst from contradicting claims, despite this logically being really neutral at best and at worst suggests there's probably one scum here

actually it's other way around

i thought it's weird he's not going after york's claim at the time

 

[Ultra]

i mean it is motivated, you're saying ekko is scum and then tell me to vote worst

Well, the problem is you are deferring to my behavior as the reason you're hesitant to go that direction. Seems rather convenient.

 

[Flower]

Mech thing i can organise is my head is,

Yoho watched Orca, Hayumi, Worst, York, Lanji visit Ekko. Ekko claimed to have his kill stopped, and also got targeted by a kill shot. York claimed to have rbed them.
Ekko tried to shoot Flowa, but Flowa claims to not get notified of any kill shot. York rb worked.

One of the targets shot Ekko. Worst claim is kill cop, if they used a kill shot or not. They didn't in Worst result because got role blocked again by York?

If the Kill Cop is legit then the RB preventing the kill would result in a No Kill result according to Fuji yes.