General & Others People are confused about the Fourth Ponegylph

Midnight Delight

Midnight Delight

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I have seen a lot of people talk about the Fourth Ponegylph as if it's some long lost thing , with people saying that Saul or Vegapunk knows where it is due to their knowledge on the Void Century

The problem is, the Fourth Ponegylph was only lost recently, it's the Fishman Island Ponegylph, King Neptune and Robin talked about said Ponegylph being stolen which happened after Oden read it 25 years ago

If Vegapunk or Saul know where it is, it would be because they themselves stole it, which I am not sure why they would do that in the first place

On the other hand nobody knows where Big Mom got her Road Ponegylph from

Regardless, I wanted to clear up this misconceptions from being spread by speedreaders
 
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Lord Dobby

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Since Fishman Island was once Big Mom's territory, it's safe to assume that she got her road poneglyph in Fishman Island, right ?

But I'm not so sure, Roger might have found a road poneglyph in BM's territory AND in Fishman Island
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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It doesn't sound like it was Stolen
Someone that Neptune trusts took it
So either Shanks, WB, Gaban or someone else who took it to Lodester Island
 
NikaInParis

NikaInParis

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Big Mom had hers since Roger's time, if you were implying she got it recently

Roger used VOAT to get the info from it, and then went to FI later with Oden to get the rubbing of that RP
 
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Cruxroux

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Midnight Delight said:
I have seen a lot of people talk about the Fourth Ponegylph as if it's some long lost thing , with people saying that Saul or Vegapunk knows where it is due to their knowledge on the Void Century

The problem is, the Fourth Ponegylph was only lost recently, it's the Fishman Island Ponegylph, King Neptune and Robin talked about said Ponegylph being stolen which happened after Oden read it 25 years ago

If Vegapunk or Saul know where it is, it would be because they themselves stole it, which I am not sure why they would do that in the first place

On the other hand nobody knows where Big Mom got her Road Ponegylph from

Regardless, I wanted to clear up this misconceptions from being spread by speedreaders
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I hereby declare the revival of kaido is a ponelglyps theory again and it's in magma right now.
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PortgasDMor

PortgasDMor

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Big Mom already had her poneglyph when Roger collected them. He tricked her and made a copy of it.

I don't think the poneglyph has anything to do with Vegapunk or Saul.

Fishman island was under Whitebeard's protection and then Big Mom's. Big Mom only had one road poneglyph so the fourth is not in her territory.

Fishman island was the gateway for all pirates to the New World. I think Whitebeard didn't want every lousy pirate to get a copy, so my guess is he moved it to his home island, Sphinx . A year ago, Blackbeard invaded Sphinx (chapter 909), and after winning the Grudge war, he took everything. So I believe the fourth poneglyph is now at the Pirate Island.
 
Warine

Warine

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PortgasDMor said:
Big Mom already had her poneglyph when Roger collected them. He tricked her and made a copy of it.

I don't think the poneglyph has anything to do with Vegapunk or Saul.

Fishman island was under Whitebeard's protection and then Big Mom's. Big Mom only had one road poneglyph so the fourth is not in her territory.

Fishman island was the gateway for all pirates to the New World. I think Whitebeard didn't want every lousy pirate to get a copy, so my guess is he moved it to his home island, Sphinx . A year ago, Blackbeard invaded Sphinx (chapter 909), and after winning the Grudge war, he took everything. So I believe the fourth poneglyph is now at the Pirate Island.
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It could have worked if it was not for Marco's presence in wano, why would he act as if nothing happened if it was the case?:endthis:
 
PortgasDMor

PortgasDMor

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Warine said:
he literally talked with luffy:endthis:
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Obviously he hardly had time to talk to Luffy. He came at the last minute, and left first. Luffy wanted to thank him right from the start, and only did so when Marco said he was leaving. Their conversation lasted just a few seconds, did you expect him to sit and tell Luffy all about the grudge war? Luffy doesn't listen to stories anyway, and if Marco had time to tell him stories, he'd probably prefer stories about Ace, not about his own failure.
And even if Whitebeard hid the poneglyph somewhere else, Blackbeard was part of his crew, so he knew where it was and still has it.
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Seth said:
Shanks has either the rubbings or the Final Poneglyph with him.
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That is also a logical possibilty.
 
Warine

Warine

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PortgasDMor said:
Obviously he hardly had time to talk to Luffy. He came at the last minute, and left first. Luffy wanted to thank him right from the start, and only did so when Marco said he was leaving. Their conversation lasted just a few seconds, did you expect him to sit and tell Luffy all about the grudge war? Luffy doesn't listen to stories anyway, and if Marco had time to tell him stories, he'd probably prefer stories about Ace, not about his own failure.
And even if Whitebeard hid the poneglyph somewhere else, Blackbeard was part of his crew, so he knew where it was and still has it.
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That is also a logical possibilty.
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Not the grudge war, what happened to the poneglyph:endthis:
 
PortgasDMor

PortgasDMor

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Warine said:
Not the grudge war, what happened to the poneglyph:endthis:
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Why would he tell Luffy? Does he even want Luffy to become the Pirate King? His motivation to join the battle was for his nakama, Neko and Inu, and to respect Oden's memory and Ace's. Even if he had the chance to speak with Luffy in private, there's no reason he'd tell him, let alone in a conversation shouting at him from the air for everyone to hear...
 
Warine

Warine

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PortgasDMor said:
Why would he tell Luffy? Does he even want Luffy to become the Pirate King? His motivation to join the battle was for his nakama, Neko and Inu, and to respect Oden's memory and Ace's. Even if he had the chance to speak with Luffy in private, there's no reason he'd tell him, let alone in a conversation shouting at him from the air for everyone to hear...
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How will he find out about it if nobody told him? He literally freed wano of Kaido, I think Marco own him that at the very least:saden:
 
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