Questions & Mysteries People who should not have coc?

[WorstMan]

The thing is Kid having it makes it feel like characters like Krieg should also have it.

Kids issue, like Kriegs, is that his crew rolled over without a second thought. Most conquerors give significantly more inspiration to their underlings (look at the scabbards or the straw hats) even after their leader gets defeated they’d still die before disrespect their leaders dream. Kids crew gave up kids dream and started begging for his life. That’s why people are mentioning kid is because for some reason after we saw many other conquerors inspire their crew to fight after the leaders defeat, the kid crew says fuck that please don’t kill us just crush our dream.

Thanks for articulating a solid point, never thought of it like that and I have to agree.

 

[Artem]

Ndule should no longer use Cocaine

 

[HellBlazer04]

How TF do I see Zoro on anyones list ... wtf

Because having CoC means he has a genetic advantage over others. It goes against his whole theme of hard work.
Had oda introduced a unique CoA ability that only Zoro can tap into would have been much better than chosen one gimmick

Also the current WSS doesn't have CoC so why should Zoro have it

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I don’t think there’s really an apt comparison, because Luffy has never been dumb enough to put himself in the same situation as Kid.

But Sanji doesn’t have the same will as Luffy and Zoro. The guy was willing to throw away his dream and join the BMP in the face of a Yonko’s power.

Luffy has literally dumb enough and acts just has reckless has Kidd. He just the main character. If he wasn't he would be dead. Luffy and Ace basically act the same, He just lucky like Roger.

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Luffy himself cares more about the crew than his dream. He would sacrifice his dream to save the crew.

Do you unironically think Luffy would be okay with the SHs dying over the poneglyph?


Yeah and when Luffy showed up to save him, he attacked him and told him to go away

You are thinking about it through Luffy perspective not his crew. His crew was willing to die just for not saying Luffy won't be the PK. They believe in him that much they still wouldn't hand it over.

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Because having CoC means he has a genetic advantage over others. It goes against his whole theme of hard work.
Had oda introduced a unique CoA ability that only Zoro can tap into would have been much better than chosen one gimmick

Also the current WSS doesn't have CoC so why should Zoro have it

How do you know if Mihawk has it or not?

 

[HellBlazer04]

How do you know if Mihawk has it or not?

He hasn't shown it yet and also there's no foreshadowing of him having it

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

He hasn't shown it yet and also there's no foreshadowing of him having it

So you don't know if he has it. Definitely foreshadowing

 

[Marimo_420]

Shanks.

Bum has no ambitions, is a lazy fuck and only goes for the one piece (his father figure's treasure) once the main competitors are put of the way.

Always a runner up. Never a winner. No 2 swordman. No 4 yonko (OG).

 

[HellBlazer04]

So you don't know if he has it. Definitely foreshadowing

He doesn't have it because he hasn't shown it.
And there's not a single bit of foreshadowing for his CoC

 

[Cruxroux]

Bigmam.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

He doesn't have it because he hasn't shown it.
And there's not a single bit of foreshadowing for his CoC

Yes literally Zoro ambition when King was talking to him. You mean we don't know if he has it. Cause if he shows it that means he always had it n you would be wrong

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He doesn't have it because he hasn't shown it.
And there's not a single bit of foreshadowing for his CoC

Yes literally Zoro ambition when King was talking to him. You mean we don't know if he has it. Cause if he shows it that means he always had it n you would be wrong

 

[Daves John]

He hasn't shown it yet and also there's no foreshadowing of him having it

Controlling a sword means you bend it to your will.

Zoro did it against a powerful sword like Enma by unlocking CoC (consciously).

Mihawk controls the strongest sword in the world, what do you think that says about his conquering ability?

Also, Zoro literally acknowledges that becoming the world's strongest swordsman is a kingly ambition of one who has CoC

This isn't even foreshadowing, Oda is blatantly telling you that.

 

[Jika]

2. kidd - since oda did not flesh out his character he should not have given him coc

4. Kid - Dude seems like he’s only a conqueror so that Oda can give him something that law doesn’t have just like Oda gave Law a D that kid doesn’t have.

The thing is Kid having it makes it feel like characters like Krieg should also have it.

Kids issue, like Kriegs, is that his crew rolled over without a second thought. Most conquerors give significantly more inspiration to their underlings (look at the scabbards or the straw hats) even after their leader gets defeated they’d still die before disrespect their leaders dream. Kids crew gave up kids dream and started begging for his life. That’s why people are mentioning kid is because for some reason after we saw many other conquerors inspire their crew to fight after the leaders defeat, the kid crew says fuck that please don’t kill us just crush our dream.

Conq is about having a strong will, even in impossible situations. That's why Mihawk, BB, Law don't have conq haki. Has nothing to do with a crew. Kidd is the most deserving character in the worst gen for conq haki. Even Kaido failed to break his will. He is the definition of a conqueror.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Conq is about having a strong will, even in impossible situations. That's why Mihawk, BB, Law don't have conq haki. Has nothing to do with a crew. Kidd is the most deserving character in the worst gen for conq haki. Even Kaido failed to break his will. He is the definition of a conqueror.

By this logic Don Krieg is also a deserving character.

 

[Jika]

By this logic Don Krieg is also a deserving character.

Sure, doesn't take anything away from what I've said.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sure, doesn't take anything away from what I've said.

It doesn’t but there’s literally dozens of characters you’ve described who don’t have CoC. Kid is undeserving because unlike conquerors who’s crews would also rather die than give up the conquerors dream, kids crew sold out kids dream without hesitation.

 

[Jika]

It doesn’t but there’s literally dozens of characters you’ve described who don’t have CoC. Kid is undeserving because unlike conquerors who’s crews would also rather die than give up the conquerors dream, kids crew sold out kids dream without hesitation.

This is just headcanon.

 

[Guymieux]

Controlling a sword means you bend it to your will.

Zoro did it against a powerful sword like Enma by unlocking CoC (consciously).

Mihawk controls the strongest sword in the world, what do you think that says about his conquering ability?

Also, Zoro literally acknowledges that becoming the world's strongest swordsman is a kingly ambition of one who has CoC

This isn't even foreshadowing, Oda is blatantly telling you that.

You haven’t realized that @HellBlazer04 has a pile of shit where his brain should be yet ?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Katakuri only has it because he's meant to mirror Luffy. My man has zero ambition in life lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Probably toss up between sengoku and yamato
Sengoku is what the illiterate ones accuse Kizaru being off, a literal salaryman.

Yamato is an unironic 30 year old neet that takes 0 responsibility and larps as oden. Like if she read in the diary oden would jump into the sea to die she would do it


However, given that a lot of statements about coc are pre-ts does mean, like most haki things probably retconned anyway I guess

Sengoku was the FA lol how does he not deserve it

 

[kekaro]

Sengoku was the FA lol how does he not deserve it

How is that relevant to what I said?