General & Others Perospero and Jack similar to Akainu and Aokiji in power level

#41
Pero saying Wanda and carrot could’ve beaten him if the moon stayed out shows the massive gap between Pero and Jack.

Heavily nerfed Jack ~ Pero sure
He never said that. He said potential victory which could range from 0.00000001% to 99.99%. That's totally diffeent from which could have won which is 100% victory rate.

I don't think injuries affect the outcome. Sure if Jack were fresh, he could have lasted more. Instead of 1 blow away from dying, he could have lasted 3 or 5 blows away from dying to sulong Inu attacks. In the end Jack would still be punching bag to sulong inu.

On the other hand, sulong neko would still be put down by Perospero once the moon was covered by the clouds. Perospero would still dodge and keep up with Sulong Neko speed before putting him down.

Injuries do not affect power and speed only endurance. Before the moon was covered, Perospero vs Sulong Neko battle did not involve endurance since what Perospero did was stalling Sulong Neko by keeping up with his speed, Then put him down when the moon was covered by the clouds.
 
#42
He never said that. He said potential victory which could range from 0.00000001% to 99.99%. That's totally diffeent from which could have won which is 100% victory rate.

I don't think injuries affect the outcome. Sure if Jack were fresh, he could have lasted more. Instead of 1 blow away from dying, he could have lasted 3 or 5 blows away from dying to sulong Inu attacks. In the end Jack would still be punching bag to sulong inu.

On the other hand, sulong neko would still be put down by Perospero once the moon was covered by the clouds. Perospero would still dodge and keep up with Sulong Neko speed before putting him down.

Injuries do not affect power and speed only endurance. Before the moon was covered, Perospero vs Sulong Neko battle did not involve endurance since what Perospero did was stalling Sulong Neko by keeping up with his speed, Then put him down when the moon was covered by the clouds.
Pero wouldn’t have mentioned luck if he was likely to win against the two. He likely would’ve lost, otherwise there’d be no point to point it out.

Pero is way weaker to Jack
 
#43
Pero wouldn’t have mentioned luck if he was likely to win against the two. He likely would’ve lost, otherwise there’d be no point to point it out.

Pero is way weaker to Jack
He referred the luck to the moon appearing. Sulongs were lucky if the moon appeared. Not that Perospero was lucky that the moon was covered by the clouds.

Jack was better at beating multiple sulong minks. Perospero was better at stalling with his superior skill and defend which was why he put down sulong Neko while Jack was 1 blow away from dying (before the moon was covered by the clouds). They were equal. They excelled at different area.
 
#44
He referred the luck to the moon appearing. Sulongs were lucky if the moon appeared. Not that Perospero was lucky that the moon was covered by the clouds.

Jack was better at beating multiple sulong minks. Perospero was better at stalling with his superior skill and defend which was why he put down sulong Neko while Jack was 1 blow away from dying (before the moon was covered by the clouds). They were equal. They excelled at different area.
Yeah okay. Who’s alt are you lmao
 
#46
Jack solo'd the entire sulong army including musketeers. Musketeers are individually stronger than Carrot and Wanda. Perospero could not defeat Sulong Carrot and Wanda, the fight lasted until the moon went out.

Perospero isn't in the same league as Jack.
Clearly it was the injury that made Perospero vs Cat competitive.
Because they excel at different area. While Jack is better at beating multiple sulong minks, Perospero is better at defensive battle or stalling which is evident when he stalled Sulong Neko and beat him while Jack with his inferior defensive skills was a punching bag to Sulong Inu and 1 blow away from dying.

Edit: Jack only beat 9 or 10 on panels. He never solo anything.
 
#50
So many. You completely made up a bunch of stuff about Pero

:willight:
What did I make up? You can ask chatgpt 0.0000001% can be considered potential victory. You made up that Perospero said they could have won which is very different with potential victory.

And injuries do not affect speed. Perospero will still keep up with Sulong Neko speed and put him down once the moon disappeared. Jack will still be a punching bag to sulong Inu regardless of injuries.
 
#55
When did I put Cracker over King?
In your banned alt account.

If Perospero was not on Jack level then they'll fight different opponents. Perospero won't outperform Jack in fighting sulong dukes.
The Dukes got Jack and Perospero for personal reasons. It had nothing to do with them being on the same level. The Dukes had to be nerfed so that Perospero is a threat to them.
 
#56
In your banned alt account.
What banned account?

The Dukes got Jack and Perospero for personal reasons. It had nothing to do with them being on the same level. The Dukes had to be nerfed so that Perospero is a threat to them.
What makes you think injuries affect the outcome of the fight? Injuries do not nerf speed and attack power.

Without injuries, Perospero would still stall Sulong Neko with his defensive ability and CQC then put him down once the moon was covered, Jack would still be sulong Inu punching bag, the different would he won't be 1 blow away from dying. He would be 3 or more than 3 blows away from dying.

That's related to power level. If Oda did not have the intent then just make Perospero 1 blow away from dying from Sulong Neko just like what happened to Jack. But Perospero was able to put down Sulong Neko. Jack was 1 blow away from dying.
 
#57
What makes you think injuries affect the outcome of the fight? Injuries d o not nerf speed and attack power.
Serious injuries affect fights all the time. That's why Sanji's performance against Ghin was poor. That's why Ulti and Absalom lost to Nami. That's why a non-Minister Charlotte knocked out Luffy. Katakuri stabbed himself so that he and Luffy were on more equal footing.

Without injuries, Perospero would still stall Sulong Neko with his defensive ability and CQC then put him dowb once the moon was covered, Jack would still be sulong Inu punching bag, the different would he won't be 1 blow away from dying. He would be 3 or more than 3 blows away from dying.
Without injuries, Perospero is cat food for base Cat Viper.

That's related to power level. If Oda did not have the intent then just make Perospero 1 blow away from dying from Sulong Neko just like what happened to Jack. But Perospero was able to put down Sulong Neko. Jack was 1 blow away from dying.
What are you even on about? Both Jack and Perospero were one hit away from losing to a Duke.
 
#58
Serious injuries affect fights all the time. That's why Sanji's performance against Ghin was poor. That's why Ulti and Absalom lost to Nami. That's why a non-Minister Charlotte knocked out Luffy. Katakuri stabbed himself so that he and Luffy were on more equal footing.
That affect their endurance not their speed. Sulone Neko with injuries still operate at the same speed. Perospero still stalls him then put him down once the moon was covered.

Ulti and Absalom were nerfed in endurance not in speed or attack power. Ulti was ner death. Different from Jack.

Luffy fought for 11 hours and Nami told Sanji Luffy was exhausted after fighting Cracker. Did someone tell this about Jack?

Without injuries, Perospero is cat food for base Cat Viper.
Without injuries Sulong Neko still cannot beat him Perospero still stalls him injuries do not affect speed.

What are you even on about? Both Jack and Perospero were one hit away from losing to a Duke.
Why are you lying?


Perospero beat sulong Neko. Jack was 1 blow away from dying.

This if and if is useless unless Oda sstate they were nerfed physically. You are just making things up.
 
#60
How many hits did it take for Cat Viper to bring down Perospero once the full moon was visible?
DId Perospero far outperform Jack in fighting the dukes. Was Jack Perospero able to move while Jack was unable to move?

Because the duke attacks are that powerful. If you have 25 HP while your peer has 500 HP but you stall your opponent and put him down while your peer is 1 blow away from dying, then your opponents get up and deal 600 damage it does not change that you far outperform your peer.
 
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