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King can stand in front of Garp and take a nap, he will take no damage whatsoever in flame mode.
you do not actually believe this. why pretend?
there is no "inferior" or "superior" fighting style. they all work as good as Oda wants. black meitos mean nothing if the weilder can not hold on to them.

(Kidd, unironically, should be swordsmens worst nightmare if he was not so inept.)
 
I think someone like King is a nightmare for Garp, unless Garp has long range attacks, can he best King?
Dude he has nuke level fist power and easily covered mountain level heights with a mere jump unlike zoro.
When it comes to Garp show some respect as he is the only one to be among the best unlike others who uses df and sword.
 




Fisting :blobevil: surely can be strong but it is the most inferior combat style.
When you compare to things like Akainu's magma, Kizaru's lasers, Magellan's poison and so on, bare fist's capability of inflicting damage is the lowest. And then, there are forgers of meitos who take pride in their creations being as good as it gets at killing.
Is fisting worse than kicking?
How about headbutting like don chinjao?
 
Dude he has nuke level fist power and easily covered mountain level heights with a mere jump unlike zoro.
When it comes to Garp show some respect as he is the only one to be among the best unlike others who uses df and sword.
King with his flame on his back can't be harmed by anything, it's a cheat code like the barrier DF
 

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All this twerking for black blades but what have they actually done? Yoru clashed with Vista's sword and didn't even leave a dent. Hell, it couldn't even crack Crocodile's hook, something Luffy's left foot did back in Alabasta:milaugh:
Luffy's left foot >>> black blades:handsup:
 
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you do not actually believe this. why pretend?
there is no "inferior" or "superior" fighting style. they all work as good as Oda wants. black meitos mean nothing if the weilder can not hold on to them.

(Kidd, unironically, should be swordsmens worst nightmare if he was not so inept.)
Actually, I do believe that. Until Oda shows that flameON Lunarians can be harmed, I will keep believing it.

Well, the pattern is consistent in favor of weaponized combat over non-weaponized.
Take a look at the only 3 characters known to be World's Strongest, all 3 are weaponized combatants. Not a single fister.
Zoro himself is also a definition of superiority, everything about him is superior to everything else.

His Haki is superior to his peers and at the end it will be superior to everyone else.
His weapons at EOS will be the strongest in the world and superior to all others.
His combat style has been supreme and superior to all others from the start but he lacked haki which will not be the case at EOS.

Fisters severely lack in lethality section, that's why it cannot compete with swords.
You could argue that fists are more reliable than DFs and that is true at the high end, because you can negate DF abilities while you cant negate fists. Negating swords on the other hand is not happening.
I wasn't aware Mihawk had trouble holding onto Yoru. :kriwhat:
 
Actually, I do believe that. Until Oda shows that flameON Lunarians can be harmed, I will keep believing it.

Well, the pattern is consistent in favor of weaponized combat over non-weaponized.
Take a look at the only 3 characters known to be World's Strongest, all 3 are weaponized combatants. Not a single fister.
Zoro himself is also a definition of superiority, everything about him is superior to everything else.

His Haki is superior to his peers and at the end it will be superior to everyone else.
His weapons at EOS will be the strongest in the world and superior to all others.
His combat style has been supreme and superior to all others from the start but he lacked haki which will not be the case at EOS.

Fisters severely lack in lethality section, that's why it cannot compete with swords.
You could argue that fists are more reliable than DFs and that is true at the high end, because you can negate DF abilities while you cant negate fists. Negating swords on the other hand is not happening.
I wasn't aware Mihawk had trouble holding onto Yoru. :kriwhat:
If they cannot be harmed why do they defend enemies attack?
If they were completely invulnerable, they would just need to attack without any care for defense?
 
And again trying sell that a wooden sword has an hamon because a completely different character known for hiding from everyone made a lookalike sword (without an hamon).
And again you're trying to tell me what can't exist in a fictional series because you don't find that in real life. That is a dumb argument. This is a fictional series where the fictional characters use fictional magical fruit powers to create fictional things that wouldn't be possible in real life.

Here is a another example.

Doffy uses his magical fruit power I mean devil fruit to create a clone out of strings. It didn't look like a clone made out of strings. It look like a real person.

 

nik87

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If they cannot be harmed why do they defend enemies attack?
If they were completely invulnerable, they would just need to attack without any care for defense?
Not really, you cannot attack when you don't defend, you are constantly pushed back without chance for offense if you don't defend.
It is common sense to do that. And Zoro already confirmed back in Egghead that they are invincible with flames on.
 
Not really, you cannot attack when you don't defend, you are constantly pushed back without chance for offense if you don't defend.
It is common sense to do that. And Zoro already confirmed back in Egghead that they are invincible with flames on.
King protected himself from Zoro attacks, he is super fast and invulnerable, he could have used the opening to just have those attack do nothing to him and fight, this doesnàt make sense.
And we are not talking defense, we are talking standing still and blocking, which doesn't make sense if you are invulnerable, because you can just push forward.
 

nik87

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King protected himself from Zoro attacks, he is super fast and invulnerable, he could have used the opening to just have those attack do nothing to him and fight, this doesnàt make sense.
And we are not talking defense, we are talking standing still and blocking, which doesn't make sense if you are invulnerable, because you can just push forward.
How will you push forward when attacks that land cleanly overwhelm you regardless of not taking damage?
 
How will you push forward when attacks that land cleanly overwhelm you regardless of not taking damage?
Again, King BLOCKED attacks, if he is invulnerable he could have just got hit by them. If you are invulnerable you do not need to block, because blocking is BY DEFINITION to avoid damage in more vulnerable parts, but ifn you have no vulnerable parts it doesn't matter where you get hit. A blocked attack will push you back just as much as a non blocked If you are impervious to damage.
 

nik87

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Again, King BLOCKED attacks, if he is invulnerable he could have just got hit by them. If you are invulnerable you do not need to block, because blocking is BY DEFINITION to avoid damage in more vulnerable parts, but ifn you have no vulnerable parts it doesn't matter where you get hit. A blocked attack will push you back just as much as a non blocked If you are impervious to damage.
You ask why block , I explained - because you cannot advance.
King got hit countless times proving his invulnerability.
Zoro confirms it in the arc later. What else needs to be explained?
 
You ask why block , I explained - because you cannot advance.
King got hit countless times proving his invulnerability.
Zoro confirms it in the arc later. What else needs to be explained?
You do not need to block.
You can get hit on every part of the body if you are invulnerable.
Blocking is redundant and inefficient.
Why block if you can just take it on the chin?
Why retract his wing and impair his mobility?
Why not do what Big Mom or Kaido did when they thought they were invulnerable, see no blocking for more reference?
 

nik87

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You do not need to block.
You can get hit on every part of the body if you are invulnerable.
Blocking is redundant and inefficient.
Why block if you can just take it on the chin?
Why retract his wing and impair his mobility?
Why not do what Big Mom or Kaido did when they thought they were invulnerable, see no blocking for more reference?
He was hit on every part or his body tho...
As I said, everything that needed to be explained was already explained.The guy who has beaten a Lunarian confirmed they are invincible.
And the goal in a fight is to overwhelm your opponent, not to get overwhelmed. Invincibility has nothing to do with this.
 
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