Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Couldn't you've used it on someone scummy?
Tepig had been easy townie read this game.
I had a list of players I wanted to use it on and Tepig was the one I decided to go with first. People have been saying abilities on Polar are failing, Red Night was poisoned / is going to be lynched.

Thought of using it on Saber (and looking back I should have used it on him) Ratchet we can get something on and will be active and respond if asked.

If you have suspects then please do name them.
 
I know this is for Pot, but I don't think you need to have those abilities to expect them in a game.

Pot has played in many SRMs and has seen abilities like these, so in an Ultra RM, it makes sense to expect them even if you don't have them.
Nope, surviving kills and other abilities don't always go hand in hand for town. Host always leave room, if he provides kill immunities..than other abilities can still work on them.

Here AM had reflected back the Invest, and very next he got shot by SK, so this reactn wasn't a norm. You'd start to have doubts about the player.
 
I had a list of players I wanted to use it on and Tepig was the one I decided to go with first. People have been saying abilities on Polar are failing, Red Night was poisoned / is going to be lynched.

Thought of using it on Saber (and looking back I should have used it on him) Ratchet we can get something on and will be active and respond if asked.

If you have suspects then please do name them.
I say this because Tepig is one of my first town reads this game.

As for other options, you'd named quite a few yourself. So amongst all these he felt the best target to you?
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Nope, surviving kills and other abilities don't always go hand in hand for town. Host always leave room, if he provides kill immunities..than other abilities can still work on them.

Here AM had reflected back the Invest, and very next he got shot by SK, so this reactn wasn't a norm. You'd start to have doubts about the player.
You can ask pretty much anyone that has played many SRMs and you'd mostly hear that some roles are stacked irrespective of alignment. AM's biggest flaw that got him lynched is that he couldn't explain why anything was failing on him. Literally his only explanation was "I don't know" which was scummy.

In that scenario, your best bet is to cut lose that sinking ship.
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
I explained why I didn't go with those other targets in that post you quoted and I also said that looking back, I would have liked to go for Saber anyway.

The only difference is slots like Saber with that level of post count have to be shot and not investigated and Tepig was fairly active to not warrant immediate shooting so investigating him over Saber was a better choice imo.
 
What's your point Yo tan? You wanna suspect me because I had a different read to yours on a given slot?
I asked because it felt odd, and asking to see your pov/reasons.

Not like you're on the lynch stage but surely you understand me questioning your prioritising the players. Or you feel tepig is the natural priority here, and I'm plain wrong?
 
You can ask pretty much anyone that has played many SRMs and you'd mostly hear that some roles are stacked irrespective of alignment. AM's biggest flaw that got him lynched is that he couldn't explain why anything was failing on him. Literally his only explanation was "I don't know" which was scummy.

In that scenario, your best bet is to cut lose that sinking ship.
I'd stand true to what i already said, unless your role is most stacked + other reasons to read player town, your first reactn is doubt.

Yes, the cut lose part is true. My vote is not on him yet because of that.
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
I asked because it felt odd, and asking to see your pov/reasons.

Not like you're on the lynch stage but surely you understand me questioning your prioritising the players. Or you feel tepig is the natural priority here, and I'm plain wrong?
You can question me, but I already explained my reasons there. And no, I wasn't completely sold on Tepig being town at that time.

At the end of the day an investigation isn't only to find guilty ones, but to remove innocent ones from the PoE as well and if I recall, there were people suspicious of Tepig apart from me too.
 

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That's what im thinking everything has just been a little bit to convient for Mr Loaded
I don't see any other way around it.

It could also be a standard frame job, and look how well it's working. People using amps and multiple super kill on a single player.
Don't believe so. He was on a high way to the lynch so that's one point against wasting this type of ability on him which could be used later to save a skoom.

Another point is that normally these kind of abilities need to include at least one skoom in them as lynching option iirc so the idea of the scum team giving a clue to one of its members to prevent town from being lynched is way too suboptimal with little to no gain.
 
As far as im aware my kills should work on anyone so long as I have type advantage, or im not messed with in anyway I think I just picked bad targets or they protected themselves knowing im a man of my word and would actually attempt to kill them
It shouldn't, yes I have one electric. Pokémon but it wasn't that Pokémon's attack that I used
So the kill on RA is still unexplained..

@Random Asshole what do you've to say fam.​
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Don't believe so. He was on a high way to the lynch so that's one point against wasting this type of ability on him which could be used later to save a skoom.

Another point is that normally these kind of abilities need to include at least one skoom in them as lynching option iirc so the idea of the scum team giving a clue to one of its members to prevent town from being lynched is way too suboptimal with little to no gain.
Completely disagree on point one as it's a matter of perspective. Converse to that statement is If a tanky town player is on a highway to lynch who's also mega suspected, keeping him in play is better. Much better utility early game as well to have abilities thrown at a single target when scum info is still low.

The second point is what we're debating:
1) We're trying to find the scum among this list (there likely should be one, unless scum managed to amp or get around the restriction and everyone in the list is town)
2) No one in the list is beyond suspicion and substituting Reloaded for another scum player with bad standing isn't an optimal either.
3) What's their game plan here if they save Reloaded this day phase? His defenses are down in the night, he's most likely going to be hit with abilities, and he might be mega blocked from using anything. And in the day phase right now, he's using his abilities how we ask him to. So why would scum risk putting in another low standing member from their team to save a potentially already compromised member?
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
I'd much rather focus elsewhere because we've wasted too much on him:
- Polar
- Orca
- Saber
- Jag
- Red Night
- Hime
- York

Also exist. York and Jag have been forthcoming about what their pokemon / abilties roughly are in the thread.
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Okay, I'm actually back now.

I was at a convention yesterday, but I'm actually, for real, going to be active today.
Thank you.

Are you aware of the current situation? We're down to 5 players whom we can lynch from:
Pot, Red Night, Ekko, Saber, Random Asshole.

What's your take on them and do you have any other scum reads or town reads?
 
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