Questions & Mysteries POLL Did Law teleport Zoro while Zoro was engulfed in Hakai

Did Law teleport Zoro while Zoro was engulfed in Hakai


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chapter 789, law saves Violet with shambles no “pop” or any thanks involved. That’s just off the top of my head.

There’s a least 2 more I vaguely remember aswell.
-First being his Initial jump to ecaspe Fuji
-another being the time he sent a note to chopper on PH.
- Or him shambling Himself/art woman to the bridge in chapter 724

In short, “pop” not always shown. But ur condescending tone always appreciated....
nice, so POP doesnt need to be there for shambles to be used. a panel of law doing the hand gesture for shambles is absolutely enough.

also i think you were adressing the wrong person with that last line cause i wasnt even arguing with you in this thread or anything.
 
No, he doesn’t.

Zoro tells everyone to move because he can’t totally block the attack, you can see that the ground behind him and in front of Kid is starting to smash up.


It’s after that you see Law do his Shambles motion- to move himself. The same way that Kid and Killer are blatantly jumping out of the way of the attack. They need to move themselves physically, he just needs to raise a finger




Then there’s no indication of Law using Shambles with the usual pop or shudder, no one thanks him for apparently saving them. The fact they are all standing together is completely irrelevant. Throughout the fight the Supernova are constantly standing together, as are Kaido and Big Mom, despite the action having moved all the characters so they should be standing all over the place. It’s so Oda can show them all on one panel.











What, you guys somehow think Law is using Shambles constantly to rearrange the fighters into two near lines facing each other? Kaido and Big Mom included?

Nope, it’s all Zoro. They attack, he blocks it, the others run, he’s blown to buggery. No indication of anyone else playing a role.
 
The amount of coping though.
Kid : ...blocking the attack even for a second
Law: ..that attack he took.

These are clear statements. Why do you have to stretch with mental gymnastics that Law moved all of them yet Oda shows panels of them jumping away and nobody mentions Law
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Perhaps even a panel of kaido and big mom in shock that an attack that could supposedly kill 4 supernova, some who are portrayed to be on zoro's level, didn't kill zoro or even send him flying.
They were in shock when their attack got stopped.

mean damn, for zoro to not even be sent flying by hakai would mean that he took the attack better than doffy did kong gun.
What does that have to do with anything? Did you consider that maybe Zoro has better physical and haki defense than Doffy?


Surely Oda wouldn't completely skip over this, and then imply both by Kid and big mom's words, paneling, and simple logic, that zoro was in fact teleported out by law
He had characters affirm what happened. Why would there be characters mentioning how Zoro blocked and Took the attack yet nobody mentions Law?
Maybe because he didn't do anything
 
No, he doesn’t.

Zoro tells everyone to move because he can’t totally block the attack, you can see that the ground behind him and in front of Kid is starting to smash up.


It’s after that you see Law do his Shambles motion- to move himself. The same way that Kid and Killer are blatantly jumping out of the way of the attack. They need to move themselves physically, he just needs to raise a finger




Then there’s no indication of Law using Shambles with the usual pop or shudder, no one thanks him for apparently saving them. The fact they are all standing together is completely irrelevant. Throughout the fight the Supernova are constantly standing together, as are Kaido and Big Mom, despite the action having moved all the characters so they should be standing all over the place. It’s so Oda can show them all on one panel.











What, you guys somehow think Law is using Shambles constantly to rearrange the fighters into two near lines facing each other? Kaido and Big Mom included?

Nope, it’s all Zoro. They attack, he blocks it, the others run, he’s blown to buggery. No indication of anyone else playing a role.
@ZenZu but but but we got more arguments for law teleporting :milaugh:


We got manga facts law didn t teleported shit u got headcanon :kayneshrug:
 
Both sides goin say non canon lol that aint goin convince them
I'll trust the anime on this. Nothing should be non Canon or additional in this scene during the anime. It's just analyzing panels which the director and animators are better at when compared to anyone in this forum. And if they are really stuck, they just have the option of asking Oda, lol. I'll accept whatever the anime tells me.
 
I'll trust the anime on this. Nothing should be non Canon or additional in this scene during the anime. It's just analyzing panels which the director and animators are better at when compared to anyone in this forum. And if they are really stuck, they just have the option of asking Oda, lol. I'll accept whatever the anime tells me.
if you wanna trust the anime, go ahead. dont use that shit in manga discussion though
 

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@ZenZu but but but we got more arguments for law teleporting :milaugh:


We got manga facts law didn t teleported shit u got headcanon :kayneshrug:
Nothing changed. His post is still relying on semantics or dialogue (no one thanking Law, Zoro telling them to move). Already discussed this with him.

Those can be explained easier than the boatload of things that don't make any logical sense if he didn't teleport anyone. Sure it's possible but it's harder to justify when you look at everything for what it is.
 
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How is it a made up assumption when it's literally what was said.
That excuse does not work. If Law had failed to move all of them, following your point, they would've been wiped out. So why wouldn't he get thanks for that even if it is the most basic of his abilities?
Kidd said Zoro blocked it for a second whiles Law said Zoro took the attack. Why didn't Law say it was a block? It is clear that those are two different things.

That's not the logic here, don't make up stuff. Zoro was thanked because he saved them.
If Law saved them he would've received a mention at the very least. That is very simple logic.
What is illogical is claiming that Law saved them and yet not having any proof, manga fact, support even an implication of such. It is not mentioned not indicated anywhere that Law moved all of them. It is just a made up assumption to cope with the obvious possibility that Zoro managed to survive an island busting attack
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It is quite ironic that the same people who focus on "Kidd said he blocked it for a second" blatantly ignore "Law said he took it". Picking and choosing parts of the manga and ignoring direct contradictions.
The reasoning is that you don't get to decide whether a character must thank another or not. Saying that Kid would have thanked Law for moving them isn't an argument, it's just a baseless assumption on how you want the character to behave. I can assume Kid found Zoro's decision to be most self-sacrificing and that, since he was way more damaged, he deserved more of a thank; and it'd have the exact same weight as your assumption (particularly more, I believe, because Zoro was the one actively risking his life there, not Law).

And Zoro did take it. The problem is that you think "taking it" means "completely tanking it" or something like that instead of simply steping forward and blocking it for a second while breaking half his skeleton in the process. He's still taking it there and he's doing so by blocking it for a second. Simple as that.

The fact that Law is shown getting ready to use an Ope Ope ability, that Zoro wasn't capable of fully blocking the attack as it kept going till the border of the island and beyond or that the characters end up in a common spot in the positions they had before hakai in fact point at Law moving them; or, minimum, moving Zoro and himself to end up where Kid and Killer ran.
 
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The reasoning is that you don't get to decide whether a character must thank another or not. Saying that Kid would have thanked Law for moving them isn't an argument, it's just a baseless assumption on how you want the character to behave. I can assume Kid found Zoro's decision to be most self-sacrificing and that, since he was way more damaged, he deserved more of a thank; and it'd have the exact same weight as your assumption (particularly more, I believe, because Zoro was the one actively risking his life there, not Law).

And Zoro did take it. The problem is that you think "taking it" means "completely tanking it" or something like that instead of simply steping forward and blocking it for a second while breaking half his skeleton in the process. He's still taking it there and he's doing so by blocking it for a second. Simple as that.

The fact that Law is shown getting ready to use an Ope Ope ability, that Zoro wasn't capable of fully blocking the attack as it kept going till the border of the island and beyond or that the characters end up in a common spot in the positions they had before hakai in fact point at Law moving them; or, minimum, moving Zoro and himself to end up where Kid and Killer ran.
Except I haven't made such an assumption. I claimed that the "thanks" isn't even a necessity, there must be some acknowledgement of the action. Because without that acknowledgement, you can't prove your claim.

The problem is that Oda made it a point to separate "block" from "took". That is why your claim falls flat. If Law also said "block" then there would be no argument to made. It only goes to further support the claim that Zoro not only blocked but also took after blocking.

Except Killer and Kidd were moving at opposite directions so you can't really argue that he moved himself and Zoro to where they were
 
Law literally said Zoro took the attack. What are yall arguing
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Argument against being teleported:
-No one thanked Law
-Law said Zoro took the attack

Argument for being teleported:
-All end up neatly together despite all going in different directions
-How Zoro didn't get blasted away with the attack which flew off the island
-How they all took (what looks to be) zero damage with an attack that covers so much ground just from jumping to the left or right
-Why Law who can put the exact same amount of effort to save everyone, would let them potentially get hit by the attack for reasons no one knows.

The argument against relies too much on the semantics of what Law said, (or what wasn't said) vs the actual physical logic behind the situation. I find many more holes to cover if I choose against, vs Zoro getting teleported (which basically boils down to no one (or Zoro) thanking Law because his ability takes no effort, compared to Zoro who just put his entire body on the line to save them all, and what encompasses "taking" something in the english language).

The one time I need the anime to clear things up.
Law says he took the attack. Thats the horse mouth. What are yall arguing
 
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