Powers & Abilities POLL : Foxfire style PU are not ?

Is Foxfirestyle a PU ?

  • YES

    Votes: 21 67.7%
  • no

    Votes: 10 32.3%

  • Total voters
    31

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#6
I see foxfire style as nothing more than skywalk - a conditional ability which might be useful at times but just a party trick/gimmick otherwise. There's no way it's this important/worthy to be a powerup when Oda literally offscreened it entirely lool.

If you think fox fire style is a powerup, then skywalk is also a powerup.
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Come and say to everyone who think it's a PU that they are retarded.
Yes, it is absolutely retarded to think that Foxfire style is mentioned as a powerup when it's nothing more than a party trick which has slight usefulness.
 
#7
I see foxfire style as nothing more than skywalk - a conditional ability which might be useful at times but just a party trick/gimmick otherwise. There's no way it's this important/worthy to be a powerup when Oda literally offscreened it entirely lool.

If you think fox fire style is a powerup, then skywalk is also a powerup.
Cutting steel is also not a power up?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#8
Cutting steel is also not a power up?
Involves mastering Breath of All things. A completely different thing.

What does learning this party trick bring to the table apart from conditional usage against opponents with flame based attacks? As I said both fox fire style and Skywalk aren't powerups by themselves. They are just new techniques with conditional utility.

Kyutoryu, DJ, Enma and Raidsuit are powerups.
 
#9
Involves mastering Breath of All things. A completely different thing.

What does learning this party trick bring to the table apart from conditional usage against opponents with flame based attacks? As I said both fox fire style and Skywalk aren't powerups by themselves. They are just new techniques with conditional utility.

Kyutoryu, DJ, Enma and Raidsuit are powerups.
Just let me get you right:
Cutting steel - power up. The point of the technique is to be able to cut steel. That is, this technique makes the character stronger, not physically, but simply gives such an ability.
Cutting the flame - not a power-up. The point of the technique is to be able to cut the flame. That is, this technique makes the character stronger, not physically, but simply gives such an ability.

That is, they have a common concept, but one is a power-up, and the second is not.
I don't understand how it works?:kayneshrug:
 
#10
I see foxfire style as nothing more than skywalk - a conditional ability which might be useful at times but just a party trick/gimmick otherwise. There's no way it's this important/worthy to be a powerup when Oda literally offscreened it entirely lool.

If you think fox fire style is a powerup, then skywalk is also a powerup.
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Yes, it is absolutely retarded to think that Foxfire style is mentioned as a powerup when it's nothing more than a party trick which has slight usefulness.
I mean yeah? Any new ability that assists in ones fighting style is a buff.
Sky walk/Invisibility/Fox Fire may all be party tricks, but they boost combat efficiency
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#11
I mean yeah? Any new ability that assists in ones fighting style is a buff.
Sky walk/Invisibility/Fox Fire may all be party tricks, but they boost combat efficiency
I don't deny that. They don't necessarily make you stronger in combat as well. That is what a powerup is to me. These are new techniques that the character integrates into their repetoire. That's like saying G3 Grizzly Magnum is a powerup for Luffy because he didn't show it in FMI while he showed it in PH. They are new techniques that these characters can add into their arsenals.

However as I've stated earlier; Gears, Enma, Kyutoryu, Diable Jambe and Raid Suit are the powerups. Not the techniques.
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Just let me get you right:
Cutting steel - power up. The point of the technique is to be able to cut steel. That is, this technique makes the character stronger, not physically, but simply gives such an ability.
Cutting the flame - not a power-up. The point of the technique is to be able to cut the flame. That is, this technique makes the character stronger, not physically, but simply gives such an ability.

That is, they have a common concept, but one is a power-up, and the second is not.
I don't understand how it works?:kayneshrug:
Did you read Alabasta? Honest question.






He gained the ability to cut whatever he wishes to cut because he can hear the breathing of that material. Him cutting steel is a feat, he did not gain an ability that allows him to only cut steel, he could cut anything and everything that he wanted to. Obviously that ability was retconned into Ryou in Wano and was nerfed with Haki being introduced.

And ofcourse it's a powerup since Zoro himself acknowledges that he's stronger now.
 
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#12
It's look like somekind of powerup. But not only that.

Foxfire style will make Zoro to have a large advantage in battle with King.
Like Luffy have a large advantage in a battle with Enel.


Parallel:
Enel-King
Zoro-Luffy


This means , Zoro can defeated King even he is still a weaker.
Like Luffy can defeated Enel even he is still a weaker.
In before It doesn’t work on Kings flames. It would be good hype if his flames are special because lunarians were able to burn in outer space without oxygen
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#13
King vs Zoro hasn't even started yet and people have already started downplaying Zoro's eventual win as "unfair" by comparing it to Enel and Luffy. It amazes me how a fictional character getting shine can get people so riled up that they go to such lengths to downplay him.
 
#14
I don't deny that. They don't necessarily make you stronger in combat as well. That is what a powerup is to me. These are new techniques that the character integrates into their repetoire. That's like saying G3 Grizzly Magnum is a powerup for Luffy because he didn't show it in FMI while he showed it in PH. They are new techniques that these characters can add into their arsenals.

However as I've stated earlier; Gears, Enma, Kyutoryu, Diable Jambe and Raid Suit are the powerups. Not the techniques.
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Did you read Alabasta? Honest question.






He gained the ability to cut whatever he wishes to cut because he can hear the breathing of that material. Him cutting steel is a feat, he did not gain an ability that allows him to only cut steel, he could cut anything and everything that he wanted to. Obviously that ability was retconned into Ryou in Wano and was nerfed with Haki being introduced.

And ofcourse it's a powerup since Zoro himself acknowledges that he's stronger now.
From
Unable to resist or do anything to Slime





To
The ability to completely stop the fire attacks of Yonko, which demolish mountains and castles, and Prometheus, who can't be harmed even with CoA.






If this is not a power-up, then what can be called a power-up at all?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#15
If this is not a power-up, then what can be called a power-up at all?
As I said earlier, individual techniques that have situational usage are not powerups.

Powerups: Gears, Kyutoryu, Diable Jambe, Raid Suit, Enma etc.
Not Powerups: Skywalk, Foxfire style, Grizzly Magnum, Rotisserie Strike, Farce of the Dead etc.

It really is that simple.
 
#16
I suppose it is a quite low-key one. It’s something entirely new that he simoly couldn’t do before, which I suppose makes it a powerup the way just showing a new attack isn’t.

I wouldn’t consider it in the same light as things like Haki/new swords/Luffy’s Gears/the RS are though. It wasn’t this huge deal- the way Zoro got an entire fight to learn to cut steel- it was just “ha, I learned to cut fire off-screen”, not even as a highlight to Zoro’s role in the roof fight.
 
#17
As I said earlier, individual techniques that have situational usage are not powerups.

Powerups are: Gears, Kyutoryu, Diable Jambe, Raid Suit, Enma etc.

It really is that simple.
I see. Well, as for me, this is a very selective approach.
If a character does\shows what he couldn't before, isn't that an improvement? Logically?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#18
see. Well, as for me, this is a very selective approach.
If a character does\shows what he couldn't before, isn't that an improvement? Logically?
This is not a selective approach at all. I don't consider Skywalk a powerup in itself. I don't consider Grizzly Magnum a powerup in itself.

A powerup is something that makes a character significantly stronger. It isn't something that's very situational and of absolutely no use if the situation isn't apt for its usage. There are exceptions like Sulong which is dependent on external factors but is a technique, which when mastered, functions like a powerup when its used.
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
#20
Its a powerup bc he's able to cut fire now. It definitely gives him an advantage.
Power up or not its better than asspulls enma and raid suit... those are worst.... what zoro learned from friend or foe is in hes own ability
 
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