Controversial Poll: Religious or rational?

[Oliver]

Belief in god is about as logical as believing invisible pokemon control the weather.

You can't prove that they don't.

Pikachu said ''do unto others as you would have them do unto you'', you can't prove that he didn't say this.

 

[Blax Blah]

Belief in god is about as logical as believing invisible pokemon control the weather.

You can't prove that they don't.

Pikachu said ''do unto others as you would have them do unto you'', you can't prove that he didn't say this.

Alrighty but what do you think about the fact that Isaiah 53 was written around 500 BC, and there was a man born 500 years after that prophecy, who fulfilled it, and split history into two?

There were 47 prophecies about Jesus made centuries before he was born








Isaiah 53:3-5

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.





Zechariah 12:10

“And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”


@Logiko @Mathias I'd be interested in your guys' thoughts too

 

[Oliver]

Alrighty but what do you think about the fact that Isaiah 53 was written around 500 BC, and there was a man born 500 years after that prophecy, who fulfilled it, and split history into two?

There were 47 prophecies about Jesus made centuries before he was born
@Logiko @Mathias I'd be interested in your guys' thoughts too

That can only be called a prophecy if you can prove a son of god actually died and the consequence of him doing so washed the world of sin. That would first involve proving a god exists and there is an afterlife and baptism takes you there.

If you can't prove those things then it isn't a prophecy it's just a repeated story.

And by the way, that is a very broad verse that can be applied to any number of situations. Predicting that at some point, in the next few centuries, a man will exist who people hate and wrongly execute is a fairly safe prediction especially for Romans. People just decided to make it fit one guy.

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko @Mathias I'd be interested in your guys' thoughts too

I'm sorry. I don't believe in anything religious. To me "sacred texts" are just text that were passed down orally by humans. To me the "evidences" or the "lessons" that we find in them are just the result of our biases and our needs to find meaning.

And when we need to find meaning, everything will do.

 

[Blax Blah]

That can only be called a prophecy if you can prove a son of god actually died and the consequence of him doing so washed the world of sin. That would first involve proving a god exists and there is an afterlife and baptism takes you there.

If you can't prove those things then it isn't a prophecy it's just a repeated story.

And by the way, that is a very broad verse that can be applied to any number of situations. Predicting that at some point, in the next few centuries, a man will exist who people hate and wrongly execute is a fairly safe prediction especially for Romans. People just decided to make it fit one guy.

Come on man, you're oversimplifying what it says

The prophecies said where Jesus would be born, how he'd live, how he'd die, what would happen etc

Centuries later, that comes true, and the man who does it splits history in half