General & Others Powerscalers (Agenda Aside) is there a way that your favorite character can not be one of the strongest and that not be an issue for you?

[Sentry22]

Yes to both. Zoros character is defined by strength and his goal involves it directly. The idea that Zoro is capping off below people who’ve never cared for their own strength like big meme would be a huge disrespect to Zoros character.

Similarly, Sanjis character may not be defined by strength, but rather his role in the crew has become one defined by it. The fact that Oda has once again reinforced Sanjis role as fighting the left hand man, and opponents comparable to Zoros fights means that shits just never going to change. Oda had his chance to separate the monster trio and he opted out of it and instead chooses to keep them similar.

And finally we have Oda this very arc confirming that the Monster Trio will never separate and that Zoro and Sanji will always be comparable to Luffy just as Roger was to Rayleigh and Gaban.

At this point it’s just powerscalers and cope trying to separate them.

They’re not comparable though. I don’t know why people assume this. Unless you think Rayleigh and scopper can match Whitebeard. I guarantee that by the end of the series that gap will widen even further once Oda reveals Rogers true power. He’s not PK for no reason. If Roger had two crew members comparable to himself the WB pirates would be screwed. But we very clearly saw that this wasn’t the case in the flashback as they fought for several days.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

They’re not comparable though. I don’t know why people assume this. Unless you thin Rayleigh and scopper can match Whitebeard. I guarantee that by the end of the series that gap will widen even further once Oda reveals Rogers true power. He’s not PK for no reason.

Because that was what was just said in Elbaf, that these two were strong enough to stand shoulder to shoulder with Roger himself.

There’s no massive gap, Roger wasn’t far above Rayleigh

 

[RyoQ]

Strongest Swordsman > Swordsmen Issho and Shanks
That's just the way it is. You may not like it, but it's just the facts.

Mihawk at Marineford never fought Whitebeard head on

All 3 Admirals did

Luffy has to get past Mihawk before he could reach the Admirals

Oda made it clear which one is weaker

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Mihawk at Marineford never fought Whitebeard head on

All 3 Admirals did

Luffy has to get past Mihawk before he could reach the Admirals

Oda made it clear which one is weaker

Because he wasn't interested in fighting him lol

 

[JoNdule]

Because he wasn't interested in fighting him lol

He was interested
He simply realised he's not on that level

 

[RyoQ]

Because he wasn't interested in fighting him lol

Get real Mihawk was getting cock blocked fighting people of less significance like Luffy, Daz Bones

Let alone if he tries attacking the old man head on

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Get real Mihawk was getting cock blocked fighting people of less significance like Luffy, Daz Bones

Let alone if he tries attacking the old man head on

Kuzan was getting cock blocked by Jozu

 

[RyoQ]

Kuzan was getting cock blocked by Jozu

Kuzan was owning Whitebeard in a 1v1

Mihawk never got his 1v1

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Kuzan was owning Whitebeard in a 1v1

Mihawk never got his 1v1

"owning Whitebeard" bro never landed a single hit lol

 

[RyoQ]

"owning Whitebeard" bro never landed a single hit lol

Neither did Whitebeard

They were countering each other the entire time from the moment Kuzan froze his tsunami

The fight however ended with Kuzan about to pierce Whitebeard with Partisan no wonder he needed Jozu sneak attack bail him out

 

[Moegara]

Neither did Whitebeard

They were countering each other the entire time from the moment Kuzan froze his tsunami

The fight however ended with Kuzan about to pierce Whitebeard with Partisan no wonder he needed Jozu sneak attack bail him out

You're saying that characters can get cockblocked for a while by the likes of Jozu and Marco... and still have proper 1v1 fights with Whitebeard.


You're actually defending Mihawk by acknowledging that fact.

 

[RyoQ]

You're saying that characters can get cockblocked for a while by the likes of Jozu and Marco... and still have proper 1v1 fights with Whitebeard.


You're actually defending Mihawk by acknowledging that fact.

Oda let some 1v1 Whitebeard, and let some not

I'm not discussing whether Mihawk was strong enough to 1v1 Whitebeard for a time, I'm sure he was but it is worse portrayal that he wanted to but was never allowed

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I like weak characters fine
For me it's really depend of the character's role in the story.
An antagonist that is mean to be threatening gotta be strong to be effective, same for a protagonist whose goal is strenght based.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Mihawk is canonically stronger than Shanks, Roger and so on.
Characters that are wanked to the high heavens and back. Assumed to have reached to epitome of power.
I do not particularly like Mihawk, nor am I fond of remote wank.
There are still undeniable things that put Mihawk in a league of his own and his fans reactions to this are normal and would be the same if it were any other character.
Luffy nika parallels were also enough to put EoS Luffy on a pedestal when hewasnot even able to 1v1 a top tier at that point.

I get it, fam, its not wasy to be impartial.

If it's canon, it would be easy to show me a manga panel where it's canonically stated that Mihawk is stronger than Roger. So please, send it to me or link it!

I remember canonically him being weaker than WB and Kaido, and canonically stated that he's the strongest swordsman, which logically implies stronger than Shanks.

Also, I remember clearly that a pirate that you claim being "Canonically stronger than Roger" first serves the order of marines, then runs from them and had to allies to be "left in peace".
Imagine Roger being called the "government dog". Truly the title reserved to the strongest!

Spoiler

Strange behaviour for the strongest, but you know, hard to be impartial.

 

[Garp the Fist]

I don’t really care.

For the old gen Garp’s pretty obviously number three at best between Rogerbeard, and likely number four behind Rocks as well.

Mid gen, weaker than Kaido, on a par with the best of the others, maybe even a bit weaker depends on how Oda wants to treat Dragon, Shanks, Mihawk and Akainu.

And will be surpassed by a good few new gen characters (including effing Coby lmao).

For Zoro, there are characters who will be stronger than him, but it will be a small amount of non swordsmen so won’t bother me.

 

[DenifClock]

I don't mind if Shanks doesn't end up being top 1, because that wasn't the number one reason I like him.
I like him because of his presence, something that no other One Piece character has (maybe you could argue Whitebeard, but he is dead now)

 

[zenox]

what would ur reaction be if Luffy never becomes stronger and he keeps becoming raisin man every fight

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

what would ur reaction be if Luffy never becomes stronger and he keeps becoming raisin man every fight

Strongest endurance man

 

[Zoinks52]

If I have a choice I definitely prefer my faves to be among the strongest, capable of giving anyone an extreme diff fight and/or treated with a lot of respect tbh.

As long as the writing is not forced it's more fun for me that way.

A good example of this is Percy Jackson from the original PJO series, who is super OP without feeling like an author's pet.

On the other hand, I can definitely like a less powerful character especially if they have a cool personality and/or something to compensate.

Courage the Cowardly Dog is my favourite fictional character of all time for instance. I also really like TT (2005) Robin and Bartimaeus from the Bartimaeus Sequence who are pretty average in power but very cunning.

I can definitely find it annoying if a character who should be strong or at least competent is portrayed otherwise or not given a chance to improve/showcase their skills. E.g Humungousaur from Ben 10, Usopp post TS, GB against Shanks

 

[Sentry22]

Because that was what was just said in Elbaf, that these two were strong enough to stand shoulder to shoulder with Roger himself.

There’s no massive gap, Roger wasn’t far above Rayleigh

You mean people misinterpreted the line as always. Nothing about that sentence implies strength. Even translators disagree on it. Yet logic would tell you otherwise. Not that anyone is using it these days. It’s all about agenda.