General & Others Powerscalers (Agenda Aside) is there a way that your favorite character can not be one of the strongest and that not be an issue for you?

You mean people misinterpreted the line as always. Nothing about that sentence implies strength. Even translators disagree on that. Yet logic would tell you otherwise. Not that anyone is using it these days. It’s all about agenda.
It’s not about agenda, many TLers agree that the line is clearly about strength as that’s what the context of the quote was about. The giants were hyping Gabans strength throughout the monologue, so it doesn’t make sense to end-cap it with a non strength related notion.

Roger Ray and Gaban were just the same tier and were able to fight shoulder to shoulder with one another.
 

Fujishiro

When were you under the impression this game is..
This is a little weird coming from a Luffy fan because Luffy is clearly going to be top 1, 2, or 3. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that, it’s Luffy’s story.

But let’s talk about other characters and characters related to them.

If Zoro was top 10 but not stronger than some admirals or Yonko would you be dissapointed? If so why? That still means he’s stronger than 99% of characters. That’s not really an issue.

If Sanji ended up comparable to admirals but not stronger than any of them would that be an issue? Or if he was clearly weaker than Zoro, would that upset you? If so why? That doesn’t make him anywhere close to weak.

Mihawk fans, if he turns out to be clearly weaker than Shanks would you accept it? If Shanks turns out weaker than Mihawk I wouldn’t care in the slightest.

I understand some of this is trolling but I’m curious if there is a world where you’re still fine with the character even if they don’t meet your strength expectations.
Yeah, idc if Fuji isnt the strongest and idc if Kaido isnt the strongest.
pedalling excuses
Dang hes not peddling but pedalling? Fucking bikers man.
 
I prefer stoic characters , Zoro , Mihawk are already one of them.
I started watching it cuz I saw some post about nothing happened which took me in.

I was never interested in Luffy and Sanji.
Jimbei is likeable. And so are admirals(Atleast akainu when it comes to stoicism)
My opposite.

That's why I prefer ryuma over zoro and mihawk.

Btw, I think strength is necessary to make some dynamics more enjoyable.
I like coby, but I think him giving an hard fight to luffy is necessary for their dynamic eos.

I like sanji, but if he was that much weaker than luffy at eos it would ruin m3 dynamic and so on.

So for sure it plays a rule, but for example I do enjoy kuzan knowing he lost to akainu.
 
We already know Mihawk is tired of life, does that mean his will is now weaker than it used to be?

Even if this was the case, fighting Zoro, Mihawk will be the strongest he's ever been, due to Zoro reigniting that spirit in Mihawk by giving him the duel he wants, that only Zoro can give because he'll have surpassed Shanks as a swordsman.

So even if Mihawk was weaker than Shanks in terms of haki due to being tired of life, you can say the moment he's fighting Zoro he'll actually be > Shanks before he loses/dies.

He's already a stronger swordsman either way, but when Zoro beats Mihawk, he'll have surpassed both Shanks & Mihawk respectively. Zoro as a conquerors swordsman because guess what, Shanks is a conquerors swordsman just like Oden and Roger, who failed to ever beat Mihawk, whereas Zoro is a CoC user swordsman that will beat Mihawk, in terms of narrative the portrayal will be clear.

Trying to use the argument of "12 years ago shanks" doesn't work, or at least it won't work on me or anyone else who knows how much Oda values the narrative to get things across. Because for example, Oda said the reason the timeskip was only 2 years is because Luffy would have matured too much as an individual for the rest of the story to suit the type of story Oda is writing (Shounen).

This is why you have a 19 year old running around beating Yonko. Conversely the duel Mihawk and Shanks had doesn't need to be downplayed by saying they were somehow much worse, the fact of the matter is they both fought and no clear victor was decided, but we know that Mihawk has superior capabilities as a swordsman.

This is why I think when Mihawk is talking about settling things between them, it's actually about overall strength as a combatant, it's not actually solely to do with swordsmanship, because they both already know that Mihawk is superior in terms of swordsmanship. Shanks would have made up for that with his style of fighting with conquerors haki, and that also leads into his ability to cancel out observation haki and so on.

It's not just because Shanks lost his arm, catch on, Mihawk would be a better swordsman even with one arm, as in being more skilled. But the mitigating factor of Shanks losing a one arm is narratively used by Oda so that, because they both know Shanks is inferior in swordsmanship and now he's gone and lost an arm, even if Shanks could still use haki to keep up, in Mihawk's eyes any potential bout with Shanks is spoiled in that Shanks will never be at his very best blow for blow.

You will then bring up Zoro having one functional eye and Fuji and so on, but even this can be worked around with observation haki, I doubt Mihawk has the same ability as shanks to cancel it out. Shit if we find out Mihawk never had CoC and just became the strongest that way then that will obviously be the case.

Suffice to say being limbless is according to the WSS and oda's narrative reasoning a greater mitigating factor than visual perception.
 
This is a little weird coming from a Luffy fan because Luffy is clearly going to be top 1, 2, or 3. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that, it’s Luffy’s story.

But let’s talk about other characters and characters related to them.

If Zoro was top 10 but not stronger than some admirals or Yonko would you be dissapointed? If so why? That still means he’s stronger than 99% of characters. That’s not really an issue.

If Sanji ended up comparable to admirals but not stronger than any of them would that be an issue? Or if he was clearly weaker than Zoro, would that upset you? If so why? That doesn’t make him anywhere close to weak.

Mihawk fans, if he turns out to be clearly weaker than Shanks would you accept it? If Shanks turns out weaker than Mihawk I wouldn’t care in the slightest.

I understand some of this is trolling but I’m curious if there is a world where you’re still fine with the character even if they don’t meet your strength expectations.
Don’t like how you worded this
Why couldn’t Sanji be the top 10 and above admirals while Zoro was close to admirals but not above them?

You just contradicted your entire thread which is why you worded it the way you did

You would not be ok with Zoro being weaker than admirals and that simply answers your question lol
 
Don’t like how you worded this
Why couldn’t Sanji be the top 10 and above admirals while Zoro was close to admirals but not above them?

You just contradicted your entire thread which is why you worded it the way you did

You would not be ok with Zoro being weaker than admirals and that simply answers your question lol
I would be perfectly fine with Zoro being weaker than the admirals. I don’t even think Mihawk is stronger than every admiral. I worded it the way I did because I believe Zoros ceiling is higher than Sanjis. I think most fans agree with that.
 
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