Character Discussion Progression of Zoro and Luffy's Relationship Post Skip

Fn Lucci

Fn Lucci

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Herrera95 said:
Are you retarded?No way Luffy would guess there was a ship behind that wall and Lucci would not fall on ocean. Actually he also tried to step on Lucci while there what would make him fall on sea anyway.

Krieg would fall unconscious on ocean. He would die anyway.

You have no arguments here.
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I appreciate the butthurt in this response as it tells me how well my point landed. Poor choice of words though, no need to disrespect the population with special needs.

Anyway, Luffy's "buttobasu" phrase translates literally but it's a figure of speech. It's not about actually sending anything to a destination, that's not how a punch works. As seen with Arlong and Crocodile, they don't actually have to go anywhere at all. Your own example still proves this point as Luffy doesn't regard where Lucci lands so long as he was hurt by the impact. The best I could give you is Cracker, where Luffy specifically says that he wants him to go to the ends of the new world before he launched him.

Kizaru is different in that flying literally anywhere but the sea wouldn't do anything, as he's intangible and Luffy can't transfer Haki into a throw to change that as far as we've seen. Kizaru heads directly toward the water, which would do something if he couldn't pull up. So, this is different than a punch that "sends him flying."

Oh and because you keep talking about Krieg, I might as well point out that the Ozuchi crashed him into the deck of the Baratie. Krieg had no drowning threat whatsoever, DF or not.
 
Topi Jerami

Topi Jerami

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serkeara said:
Zoro is a new Sanji.

Typical PS Zoro will have a bloodlust and want to fight Kizaru. Now he is just a Nika's puppet.
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Sanji is a new citizen #1.

Typical post TS Sanji will job either to Kizaru or to Lucci. Now he is reduced to stay in the background like a random citizen #1.
 
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Herrera95

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#84
Fn Lucci said:
I appreciate the butthurt in this response as it tells me how well my point landed. Poor choice of words though, no need to disrespect the population with special needs.

Anyway, Luffy's "buttobasu" phrase translates literally but it's a figure of speech. It's not about actually sending anything to a destination, that's not how a punch works. As seen with Arlong and Crocodile, they don't actually have to go anywhere at all. Your own example still proves this point as Luffy doesn't regard where Lucci lands so long as he was hurt by the impact. The best I could give you is Cracker, where Luffy specifically says that he wants him to go to the ends of the new world before he launched him.

Kizaru is different in that flying literally anywhere but the sea wouldn't do anything, as he's intangible and Luffy can't transfer Haki into a throw to change that as far as we've seen. Kizaru heads directly toward the water, which would do something if he couldn't pull up. So, this is different than a punch that "sends him flying."

Oh and because you keep talking about Krieg, I might as well point out that the Ozuchi crashed him into the deck of the Baratie. Krieg had no drowning threat whatsoever, DF or not.
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Where it says Luffy aimed for water? He just threw him far away.

You have no arguments. Retarded.
 
Fn Lucci

Fn Lucci

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Herrera95 said:
Where it says Luffy aimed for water? He just threw him far away.

You have no arguments. Retarded.
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He heads downward and Kizaru says "at this rate" referring to trajectory. Of course far away can't be a thing, Luffy would know best because we saw him hit the barrier. It's funny you would like to shut down the argument but the best effort you have still invokes dangerously common sense lol.

"At this rate" you might as well go start another thread about Zoro, this one's not for you.
 
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Herrera95

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#87
Fn Lucci said:
He heads downward and Kizaru says "at this rate" referring to trajectory. Of course far away can't be a thing, Luffy would know best because we saw him hit the barrier. It's funny you would like to shut down the argument but the best effort you have still invokes dangerously common sense lol.

"At this rate" you might as well go start another thread about Zoro, this one's not for you.
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Your argument is pure headcannon.
 
HellBlazer04

HellBlazer04

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#88
#88
Cinera said:
How it started:


How it's going:


Why does Oda continue to shit on Zoro?
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This is disrespectful man.
Luffy is fucking laughing at zoro thinking zoro can't beat lucci. Its like luffy thinks zoro can't stand up to the opponents that he has fought. He completely forgot that he used to trust zoro to pull through his own fights.
There is no justification for this garbage writing.
 
kumae

kumae

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HellBlazer04

HellBlazer04

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kumae

kumae

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#91
HellBlazer04 said:
There is a clear difference here, if you can see that then you are blind
You people can keep praising that shit about zoro and luffy having special friendship, but the honest truth is that special friendship has been non existent for a long time now. This chapter is proof that luffy doesn't trust zoro to handle his own fights.
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Or Just you blinded by agenda or being negative
But let's leave it there
 
Fn Lucci

Fn Lucci

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#93
Herrera95 said:
Your argument is pure headcannon.
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I like how you've broken down to not even trying to make a point. But I'm not a vulture so that's enough
U c 4 up da idly said:
Luffy is leagues above Zoro nothing wrong giving some help :jordanmf:
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Diddly I'd honestly agree at this point had Luffy not gotten extremely tired after his duration with Lucci compared to Lucci being fine after taking those big attacks. Zoro is struggling now but he'll likely be on his feet when Lucci is finished
 
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Sword God Ryuma

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HellBlazer04 said:
There is a clear difference here, if you can't see that then you are blind
You people can keep praising that shit about zoro and luffy having special friendship, but the honest truth is that special friendship has been non existent for a long time now. This chapter is proof that luffy doesn't trust zoro to handle his own fights.
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Zoro didn't trust Luffy to handle his own fights with Bellamy and Kaido i guess. Lol 😂 Your so slow
 
HellBlazer04

HellBlazer04

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#97
Sword God Ryuma said:
Zoro didn't trust Luffy to handle his own fights with Bellamy and Kaido i guess. Lol 😂 Your so slow
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Bellamy comment didn't happen during a fight. Zoro said that because it was personal business for him as well when bellamy voilated cricket. I don't exactly remember what moment against kaido you're talking about.
But anyway you're not understanding my point here. My point here is basically about oda's shit character writing which you guys seemingly want to ignore by labeling it as "Gag".
 
Redboy776

Redboy776

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Exactly Lucci is like the bellamy of this arc, lucci is yc1+ at least since he believe he can beat a yc1 the thing is zoro is above that level and the only reason he isnt the yonko is because he isnt the captain of the strawhats crew.
 
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Sword God Ryuma

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HellBlazer04 said:
Bellamy comment didn't happen during a fight. Zoro said that because it was personal business for him as well when bellamy voilated cricket. I don't exactly remember what moment against kaido you're talking about.
But anyway you're not understanding my point here. My point here is basically about oda's shit character writing which you guys seemingly want to ignore by labeling it as "Gag".
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It doesn't matter if it happened during a fight. He didn't trust Kuffy to take care of it.

Zoro went to the Rood to kull Kaido knowing that Luffy wanted to fight Kaido
 
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