Controversial Proof Zoro doesn't have AdCoC

[Rootbeer]

Sure, let's say Vistas swordsmanship is better. Noone ever said haki = all that swordsmanship is.
Haki is A PART OF swordsmanship. Vista is below Shanks in the haki part, but maybe hes above in technique or some other shit regarding the expertise. How does any of this PROVE anything?! Since you're the one using such a strong word like "proof" here.
All it means is that AdvCoC alone is not enough to make you a grandmaster if you're lacking in other areas.
But that doesn't mean that haki doesn't make your swordsmanship better.
You're literally just leaping to a conclusion that makes no sense because you're COPING hard.
I believe Shanks is above Vista as a swordsman, but maybe Vista is regarded a grandmaster because he has more refined techniques? But Shanks is obviously gonna beat Vista easily in a swordfight.
Either way, Shanks has adv coc and is regarded a master, Zoro is now also regarded a master just like Shanks.
So why does Zoro not have adv coc if he's on the same rank as Shanks, someone who has adv coc, now? xD
You literally have no argument here. Zoro used adv coc on panel, there is no case in the series of someones coc flowing through and out of their weapon like that with just basic coc like you claim like an idiot.

But Haki is the peak of Swordsmanship, and based on Vista's rank AdCoC is not related to Swordsmanship..
So Zoro doesn't have AdCoC..

 

[Chrono]

This thread is so baddd. Like it doesnt even make any sense.

 

[Herrera95]

Shanks has Advanced Conqueror Haki and it doesn't put him above Vista in Swordsmanship

Zoro and Shanks have the same swordsman rank but Shanks is stronger than Zoro..

Who said Shanks is not above Vista in swordsmanship?

Who said Shanks is stronger than Zoro and have the same swordsman rank?

 

[Rootbeer]

Who said Shanks is not above Vista in swordsmanship?

Who said Shanks is stronger than Zoro and have the same swordsman rank?

Shanks is a Sword Master, Vista is Sword Grandmaster..

How is Shanks not stronger than Zoro, Zoro barely just beat king hes YC1+ nearing Admiral, Shanks is a Yonko..

 

[Herrera95]

Shanks is a Sword Master, Vista is Sword Grandmaster..

How is Shanks not stronger than Zoro, Zoro barely just beat king hes YC1+ nearing Admiral, Shanks is a Yonko..

Who said Shanks is Master and Vista GrandMaster?

Zoro humiliated King once Enma stopped nerf him. Shanks didn't even had balls to take Kaido by himself.

 

[Rootbeer]

Who said Shanks is Master and Vista GrandMaster?

Zoro humiliated King once Enma stopped nerf him. Shanks didn't even had balls to take Kaido by himself.

Promotional Film Red Movie and for Vista in Databook Blue Deep..

Not really if King kept his defense up Zoro would have lost, he can't be damaged by blades in that form..

 

[BornInAbyss]

But Haki is the peak of Swordsmanship, and based on Vista's rank AdCoC is not related to Swordsmanship..
So Zoro doesn't have AdCoC..

What are these black lightning thats leaking out of zoros weapons then? Are you stoopid? Everyone luffy roger newgate and yamato has the same pattern when they use acoc but when zoro does it its not acoc? At first I thought you are trolling but you clearly are not. This is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Rootbeer]

What are these black lightning thats leaking out of zoros weapons then? Are you stoopid? Everyone luffy roger newgate and yamato has the same pattern when they use acoc but when zoro does it its not acoc? At first I thought you are trolling but you clearly are not. This is beyond ridiculous.

Those are Advanced CoA, and they are different than those who use AdCoC.. CoC Coating user are charging up their attack Zoro is has already koH activated..

 

[BornInAbyss]

Those are Advanced CoA, and they are different than those who use AdCoC.. CoC Coating user are charging up their attack Zoro is has already koH activated..

What? Are you suggesting that yamato has advanced CoA?? Why didn’t she use it to free herself then? Black lightning trails from fists and weapons is not advanced CoA lmao

 

[Rootbeer]

What? Are you suggesting that yamato has advanced CoA?? Why didn’t she use it to free herself then? Black lightning trails from fists and weapons is not advanced CoC lmao

Yamato is charging up for an AdCoC attack, Zoro is not..
Only Zoro is not AdCoC, it is CoC + CoA koH Stabilized..

 

[BornInAbyss]

Yamato is charging up for an AdCoC attack, Zoro is not..
Only Zoro is not AdCoC, it is CoC + CoA koH Stabilized..

No its advanced CoC. I dunno what youre smoking but you should probably stop lol

 

[Rootbeer]

No its advanced CoC. I dunno what youre smoking but you should probably stop lol

l could be right, you should keep an open mind about it..

 

[Herrera95]

Promotional Film Red Movie and for Vista in Databook Blue Deep..

Not really if King kept his defense up Zoro would have lost, he can't be damaged by blades in that form..

So non canon material.

Nowhere says King can't be damaged by blades. In fact Zoro first attack on King he had flames on and bleed.

 

[Rootbeer]

So non canon material.
Made by Oda is Canon..
Nowhere says King can't be damaged by blades. In fact Zoro first attack on King he had flames on and bleed.

He didn't have flames on or he didn't bleed.. Zoro taunted king to attack him on the final attack because he knew he
couldn't damage king with his flames on..

 

[[No Name]]

Mihawk and Vista are listed as Sword Grandmasters..

Zoro's new title is Sword Master like Shanks..

Mihawk - Grandmaster
Vista - Grandmaster
Shanks - Master
Zoro - Master

Shanks has Advanced Conqueror Haki and it doesn't put him above Vista in Swordsmanship

Zoro and Shanks have the same swordsman rank but Shanks is stronger than Zoro..

This means 2 things..

- AdCoC is not connected to Swordsmanship level
- Zoro does not have AdCoC


Also CoC is not Zoro's expertise, it's CoA.. Zoro just unleashed base CoC..

Where did you get those Infos?

 

[Rootbeer]

Where did you get those Infos?

Vista is here mentioned he's a Dai kengou, Grandmaster..

And Shanks here it says Ken no Tatsujin.. Sword Master

 

[[No Name]]

Vista is here mentioned hes a Dai kengou, Grandmaster..

And Shanks here it says Ken no Tatsujin.. Sword Master

Interesting.

Mmmmmm..
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qbe3uc I have found this thread, but I dunno anything about japanese.
Interesting tho.
Was Oden considered a Dai Kengou too?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1432006632997670919

Found out this too.
Only Vista, Ryuma and Mihawk.

 

[Rootbeer]

Interesting.

Mmmmmm..
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qbe3uc I have found this thread, but I dunno anything about japanese.
Interesting tho.
Was Oden considered a Dai Kengou too?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1432006632997670919

Found out this too.
Only Vista, Ryuma and Mihawk.

Wow excellent research.. Yeah l dont think Zoro was ever called Daikengou, Grandmaster.. This chapter said hes official Kengou, Sword master..

Very interesting so Ushimaru was a Daikengou too, Grandmaster according to Sandman..

So Vista, Ryuuma, Mihawk and Ushimaru.. Probably Oden too..

 

[[No Name]]

Wow excellent research.. Yeah l dont think Zoro was ever called Daikengou, Grandmaster.. This chapter said hes official Kengou, Sword master..

Very interesting so Ushimaru was a Daikengou too, Grandmaster according to Sandman..

So Vista, Ryuuma, Mihawk and Ushimaru.. Probably Oden too..

This can potentially lead to something I guess.
I'll do Better research to see if Shanks was called just Kengou in other sources.

 

[Ballel]

Mihawk and Vista are listed as Sword Grandmasters..

Zoro's new title is Sword Master like Shanks..

Mihawk - Grandmaster
Vista - Grandmaster
Shanks - Master
Zoro - Master

Shanks has Advanced Conqueror Haki and it doesn't put him above Vista in Swordsmanship

Zoro and Shanks have the same swordsman rank but Shanks is stronger than Zoro..

This means 2 things..

- AdCoC is not connected to Swordsmanship level
- Zoro does not have AdCoC


Also CoC is not Zoro's expertise, it's CoA.. Zoro just unleashed base CoC..

Stfu kandiboi