General & Others Proof Zoro>Luffy, and that hate against Zoro is at an all time high.

I've already explained it. Not my fault your illiterate and ignorant.
But hey knowing your triggered enough to make up stupid shit makes you feel better, makes me laugh.
What would u explain ? Luffy punched Arlong's Jaw and he broke his teeth ? Yeah he did that and then he punched Kaido's Jaw and couldn't destroy them even with internal destruction and adv CoC and you are giving me excuses here lmao :gokulaugh:
 
You're only going to find these abilities among the Strongest people in the World, that's the message being conveyed here. If it wasn't, than the phrasing with the word Strongest in it is moot. If it meant what you think it implies it would read like "out of all the Haki users in the world, very few can use this ability.". The addition of the word "Strongest" changes the context of what is being inferred. This is basic language arts here.
Which part of it doesn't preclude others from being part of the strongest without having those haki do you not understand?

Is it a necessity? Obviously not because the statement implies that there are strongest fighters who lack these abilities.

Exactly basic language art which you are failing to understand
 
Luffy got top tier haki FS = only got oneshot
Luffy got top tier haki tech Penetrating haki = got knocked out again twice.
Luffy then got top tier haki tech CoC coating = got knocked out again.

One concludes from this that having these haki makes you top tier.

Wonder what happened to the other characters who don't have all of these haki....oh wait Big Mom is still a top tier, Kaido is too. Law didn't get knocked out even after taking adcoc Thunder Bagua. Kidd is still fighting, Killer is still kicking, Zoro blocked and took island level attack and still went on to scar Kaido...something Mr. Top tier haki couldn't
Luffy isn't even on oden level lmao ; Do u see Kaido being disappointed and crying over fighting Oden again in this age with the hype he says about him ? :gokulaugh:
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Which part of it doesn't preclude others from being part of the strongest without having those haki do you not understand?

Is it a necessity? Obviously not because the statement implies that there are strongest fighters who lack these abilities.

Exactly basic language art which you are failing to understand

Among the mightiest and then he uses it against Kaido preudon and got one shotted and post udon and got one shotted :suresure:
 
Apparently Oden can't be considered on Luffy's level didn't you know?

Luffy has FS, adCOA and adcoc

Oden doesn't have FS, didn't use penetrating haki and adcoc can't be proven

Luffy =3
Oden= 0
Mfs can't read lmao :gokulaugh:
• Luffy with Adv coc and adv Coa and FS :
KAIDO is disappointed and crying over and he said :
I shouldn't have been excited i did a mistake

• Kaido about Oden :
1- You won't see a monstruous samurai like oden .
2- only a few ppl who can fight me and oden got mentioned .
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The story elements aren't the same you numbskull.
It's not a 1 to 1 ratio.
So you don't have anything and just your headcanons damage is simple as that if luffy can break his teeth ; he would have shown that to hype his attacks but nothing about that whereas he destroyed Arlong's teeth to show off that Luffy is strong.
:okay:
 
Which part of it doesn't preclude others from being part of the strongest without having those haki do you not understand?

Is it a necessity? Obviously not because the statement implies that there are strongest fighters who lack these abilities.

Exactly basic language art which you are failing to understand
That doesn't matter. The people who do have it ARE the Strongest. You act like this is no big deal because it doesn't apply to your boy. So instead you choose to pretend that not having this ability doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of the power structure of the One Piece world, which is a load of bullshit. If you didn't need these abilities to be ranked among the strongest then haki itself is not needed in the first place and Oda is wasting his damn time expanding upon and emphasizing how important haki is in the first place. If Zoro is already among the Strongest without these abilities, then what does that make him when he gets them? The super fucking strongest? In that case I look forward to him Lol diffing Mihawk at EoS.
 
Mfs can't read lmao :gokulaugh:
• Luffy with Adv coc and adv Coa and FS :
KAIDO is disappointed and crying over and he said :
I shouldn't have been excited i did a mistake

• Kaido about Oden :
1- You won't see a monstruous samurai like oden .
2- only a few ppl who can fight me and oden got mentioned .
....
......
..
:okay:
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So you don't have anything and just your headcanons damage is simple as that if luffy can break his teeth ; he would have shown that to hype his attacks but nothing about that whereas he destroyed Arlong's teeth to show off that Luffy is strong.
:okay:
 
People are so dense. If haki is not supposed to matter in the Grand scheme of the One Piece power structure, then why the hell is Oda going through all the trouble of giving Zoro the ability before he ever gives him his first proper 1 v 1 against a strong opponent? He's preparing the guy, just like he did with Luffy. You guys have it all ass backwards thinking it's because Zoro is just to strong, when it's the exact opposite. He needs to become stronger, just like Luffy did.
 
That doesn't matter. The people who do have it ARE the Strongest. You act like this is no big deal because it doesn't apply to your boy. So instead you choose to pretend that not having this ability doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of the power structure of the One Piece world, which is a load of bullshit. If you didn't need these abilities to be ranked among the strongest then haki itself is not needed in the first place and Oda is wasting his damn time expanding upon and emphasizing how important haki is in the first place. If Zoro is already among the Strongest without these abilities, then what does that make him when he gets them? The super fucking strongest? In that case I look forward to him Lol diffing Mihawk at EoS.
Lol now it doesn't matter ehh.
The statement is quite clear, what you think devalues or not is irrelevant.
The statements do not preclude a character from being part of the strongest and not having that haki type.

It shows that having them is not necessity.

Take this comparison:
" Among the best posters on this site, some have VIP membership" =\= you need VIP membership to be part of the best posters.
 
Lol now it doesn't matter ehh.
The statement is quite clear, what you think devalues or not is irrelevant.
The statements do not preclude a character from being part of the strongest and not having that haki type.

It shows that having them is not necessity.

Take this comparison:
" Among the best posters on this site, some have VIP membership" =\= you need VIP membership to be part of the best posters.
False comparison.
 
People are so dense. If haki is not supposed to matter in the Grand scheme of the One Piece power structure, then why the hell is Oda going through all the trouble of giving Zoro the ability before he ever gives him his first proper 1 v 1 against a strong opponent? He's preparing the guy, just like he did with Luffy. You guys have it all ass backwards thinking it's because Zoro is just to strong, when it's the exact opposite. He needs to become stronger, just like Luffy did.
Nobody said it doesn't matter.
What is being said is having it doesn't automatically make you stronger than another character who doesn't have it
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Go check the translation and show where the false comparison is.
 
Lol now it doesn't matter ehh.
The statement is quite clear, what you think devalues or not is irrelevant.
The statements do not preclude a character from being part of the strongest and not having that haki type.

It shows that having them is not necessity.

Take this comparison:
" Among the best posters on this site, some have VIP membership" =\= you need VIP membership to be part of the best posters.
No, what you're saying doesn't matter. The context of the statement and what it implies is what matters,and that's if you want yo be counted among the strongest in the World, then these are the abilities you need. Even Kaido, Whitebeard and Big Mom with their broken devil fruits are given these abilities, because that is what is needed to be a Top Tier.
 
that's if you want yo be counted among the strongest in the World, then these are the abilities you need
This is not what the context implies. This is your own flawed interpretation.
No different than those who taught/think Katakuri cannot be defeated by anyone who doesn't have FS.

Even Kaido, Whitebeard and Big Mom with their broken devil fruits are given these abilities
Kaido and Big Mom don't have FS.
Oden didn't have FS
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I'm talking about you saying that about VIP and the haki only the strongest have.
That is also what I'm talking about. It is word for word

"Among the strongest in the world, some have FS"
"Among the (insert rank), some have (insert ability)"
It doesn't mean that the (under ability) is a necessity to be part of (insert rank)
 
This is not what the context implies. This is your own flawed interpretation.
No different than those who taught/think Katakuri cannot be defeated by anyone who doesn't have FS.


Kaido and Big Mom don't have FS.
Oden didn't have FS
They still have at least one form of Top Tier haki. Do you forget Oden, with all his physical strength, was a fly swat for Roger in the face of AdCoC?
 
They still have at least one form of Top Tier haki. Do you forget Oden, with all his physical strength, was a fly swat for Roger in the face of AdCoC?
Which didn't defeat him.
Can you prove he had adCOA, Fs and adcoc in his prime? No.

Like I said, the statement does not preclude others without the ability. You are agreeing with me here by claiming that even though Kaido and Big Mom don't have FS, they still are part of the strongest.
Just like how other characters can be part of the strongest without having at least one of those types.

Which haki type is needed to fight Kaido, obviously the one Luffy and Zoro used. Yet you claim Zoro lacks an advanced form
 
This is not what the context implies. This is your own flawed interpretation.
No different than those who taught/think Katakuri cannot be defeated by anyone who doesn't have FS.


Kaido and Big Mom don't have FS.
Oden didn't have FS
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That is also what I'm talking about. It is word for word

"Among the strongest in the world, some have FS"
"Among the (insert rank), some have (insert ability)"
It doesn't mean that the (under ability) is a necessity to be part of (insert rank)
You still don't get it. It's a false comparison. Ones rooted in payment (Pay to Win) the other is rooted in the pinnacle of combat, on top of being something from a Manga to RL issue.
 
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