General & Others Rank these One Piece villains from most evil to least evil
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Despite the fact that he kinda became a meme character, I think people underestimate how evil Ceasar Clown really is. In fact I think the exact reason that he's a joke character is why people forget his atrocities. He's a human trafficker that kidnapped children and drugged them constantly with additives that were slowly killing them. Not to mention he tried to wipe out an entire island of people, pretended he was their savior, used them as guinea pigs, then tried to wipe them out all over again. His crimes make some people on this list look like saints.
OT:
1. Doffy
2. Enel
3. Crocodile
4. Orochi
5. Linlin
6. Arlong
7. Kaido
8. Lucci
9. Wapol
OT:
1. Doffy
2. Enel
3. Crocodile
4. Orochi
5. Linlin
6. Arlong
7. Kaido
8. Lucci
9. Wapol
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- Donquixote Doflamingo
- Shogun Orochi Kurozumi
- Kaido of the Hundred Beasts
- Rob Lucci
- Arlong
- Big Mom
- Crocodile
- Enel
- Wapol
Shogun Orochi Kurozumi is just Donquixote Doflamingo but lesser. He holds a similar grudge against the nation of Wano and all its populace and wants to do the same thing, he's corrupted them or taken away their hope. In some cases, both. Turned a very cultured and vibrant landscape into a living Hell where their guests in the Beast Pirates can do whatever they please. Again, just like Doflamingo but to a much smaller extent in both goals and actions.
Kaido / Rob Lucci come in 3rd/4th because they have no powerful, driving ideology or goal beyond seemingly loving violence for violence's sake. Kaido has an entire crew that sells weapons of war, enslaves and murders the locals of Wano and any other land unlucky to be their territory. Rob Lucci is just a bloodthirsty person. What set's them high is their willingness to murder and that murder is actually their goal. Kaido wants a war to ruin the world, Rob Lucci is among the top assassins for the World Government because he wants to harm others. This willingness to kill without reason is what sets them higher.
Arlong might be controversial. He was a horrible person, racist and violent to humans. He wasn't mindless in his discrimination nor was he entirely a monster who gave into destruction. He could be patient, work with some humans like the Cat themed Marine Captain who he bribed. There was also the fact he didn't harm fellow Fishman and that his racism and hatred, as bad as it is to say, isn't baseless and comes from a real place. Fisher Tiger's death and the treatment of Fishman for hundreds of years helped mold Arlong. It's still his personal failing that he can't see beyond it, but he isn't Hody Jones.
Big Mom destroys entire countries for being unable to provide her with her sweet tax. She steals life spans to fuel her creations and doesn't allow anyone to leave. She betrays her supposed allies, has less self control than a ten year old and leads directly to the demise of her kin on several occasions. She's a dictator who really doesn't love anyone but herself and the lie she believes to be Mother Caramel.
Crocodile, as horrible as he was in Alabasta, isn't really the monster I think those above him are. He doesn't intend to pillage the entire world, so far as we've seen, has specific enemies that he wants to be rid of. Alabasta was a casualty in his plans, but it's not like he intends to go to other countries to continue this bloodshed. He's willing to kill, if he must, but his ambition nor his hobbies do not include the murder of random peoples.
Enel is a lot like Crocodile, he's haughty and willing to murder. But after Skypeia, he was going to go away... So, yeah, horrible human being, but his potential to hurt people (and willingness) wasn't nearly as high. Wapol was just greedy to an extreme and a lesser Big Mom.
@TheAncientCenturion you bring up some good points. However I feel like if you've done genocide (like Enel has to countless sky islands or like Doflamingo's bird cage) or attempted genocide (like Crocodile) then you're already inherently more evil than people like Lucci or Kaido.
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Even Zoro couldn't handle how twisted Croc was.
I might place Crocodile above Doflamingo for the simple fact that he would toss any underling like used goods without a second thought. Doflamingo truly cared for his family. Even going as far as letting the strawhats escape because Law held a scrub like Giolla (who is no use to Mingo) hostage. Crocodile doesn't value any life and doesn't seem especially close to anyone really (he showed interest in working with Daz Bonez though that's about it).
Even Zoro couldn't handle how twisted Croc was.
I might place Crocodile above Doflamingo for the simple fact that he would toss any underling like used goods without a second thought. Doflamingo truly cared for his family. Even going as far as letting the strawhats escape because Law held a scrub like Giolla (who is no use to Mingo) hostage. Crocodile doesn't value any life and doesn't seem especially close to anyone really (he showed interest in working with Daz Bonez though that's about it).
Reminder
Even Zoro couldn't handle how twisted Croc was.
I might place Crocodile above Doflamingo for the simple fact that he would toss any underling like used goods without a second thought. Doflamingo truly cared for his family. Even going as far as letting the strawhats escape because Law held a scrub like Giolla (who is no use to Mingo) hostage. Crocodile doesn't value any life and doesn't seem especially close to anyone really (he showed interest in Daz Bonez though that's about it).
Even Zoro couldn't handle how twisted Croc was.
I might place Crocodile above Doflamingo for the simple fact that he would toss any underling like used goods without a second thought. Doflamingo truly cared for his family. Even going as far as letting the strawhats escape because Law held a scrub like Giolla (who is no use to Mingo) hostage. Crocodile doesn't value any life and doesn't seem especially close to anyone really (he showed interest in Daz Bonez though that's about it).
But still shows love to those he cares for. Baby 5 is attacking him half the time, he tolerates it, his men can fail vital missions, he tolerates it. Giolla a scrub with no purpose was caught, and he was sweating (let SHs escape in exchange for her). Someone laughed at Pica and he was absolutely vexed. In his mind betrayal is not to be tolerated, his father and brother betrayed him.
Crocodile just sees people as tools to use and then toss aside. He has no love for anyone, he's as cold hearted as they come.
Crocodile just sees people as tools to use and then toss aside. He has no love for anyone, he's as cold hearted as they come.
The only reason Lucci wouldn't genocide people is because he doesn't have the means to. He lives to murder. Crocodile would kill millions for his goal, but not if he didn't have to. Kaido wants to destroy the world, in essence, with his war. I think Enel's terrible but not on the level as the others. He doesn't live to kill like either of them.
I can see your point. Doflamingo is more loyal and attached to his crew but when he holds a grudge against someone, he turns into an absolute psychopath and is capable of anything. He was only 10 when he shot his own father in the head and beheaded him just because he wanted to live a confortable life. That's far worse than anything Crocodile has done in my opinion. Crocodile is a bastard but he sacrificed people he barely knew (even if they worked for him).
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True but Crocodile doesn't get attached enough to anyone in the first place to be hurt or betrayed by them to hold grudges, that in and of itself shows how cold he is. He sees everyone around him as a tool for gain. Not forming any bonds with anyone because you think of them as bugs to begin with speaks for itself.
More functioning people like Doflamingo exist in the real world, he's mobster like with his code. He's got his family's back as long as they don't betray him. Crocodile is almost devoid of emotion.
More functioning people like Doflamingo exist in the real world, he's mobster like with his code. He's got his family's back as long as they don't betray him. Crocodile is almost devoid of emotion.
Lucci is indeed a psycopath that loves killing, but he doesn't meaninglessly kill someone for no reason. Even if his reasons are pretty petty (like when he killed that army for being too weak) they are still reasons. If Lucci had the choice between nuking a nation with no consequence to him or continuing being an assassin, he would choose the assassin job because he likes fighting. He's not a serial killer that kills random people for no reason, he's an assassin that loves his job a little too much. If he loved killing to the point that it was his biggest and only purpose in life, then he would have pulled a Garp and rejected protecting the celestial dragons.
I don't think the whole "killing for your goals" justifies Crocodile's attempted genocide. Hitler committed the holocaust because of his goals, he's still regarded as one of the most evil men in history.
Kaido wants a war with a bunch of strong people involved to the point that the world would be shook from it's scale alone. I don't think he actually wants to kill everyone on the planet, more so he's feeling like Goku and just wants a fight of epic and catastrophic proportions.
Enel committed genocide after genocide on multiple Sky Islands when he didn't need to. If it wasn't for the King Riku shit, I would say he's more evil than Doffy.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, I could be wrong about Enel destroying multiple Sky Isalnds. Haven't seen Skypea in a minute. At the very least I know that he destroyed his home island (which is all sorts of fucked) and he attempted to destroy an island of people that worshipped him as a god when he didn't have to. So my point still stands.
I don't think the whole "killing for your goals" justifies Crocodile's attempted genocide. Hitler committed the holocaust because of his goals, he's still regarded as one of the most evil men in history.
Kaido wants a war with a bunch of strong people involved to the point that the world would be shook from it's scale alone. I don't think he actually wants to kill everyone on the planet, more so he's feeling like Goku and just wants a fight of epic and catastrophic proportions.
Enel committed genocide after genocide on multiple Sky Islands when he didn't need to. If it wasn't for the King Riku shit, I would say he's more evil than Doffy.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, I could be wrong about Enel destroying multiple Sky Isalnds. Haven't seen Skypea in a minute. At the very least I know that he destroyed his home island (which is all sorts of fucked) and he attempted to destroy an island of people that worshipped him as a god when he didn't have to. So my point still stands.
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But Orochi intends to genocide people.
Kaido intends to destroy the world through his war. At the very least, this means the WG goes down and there's no order. That'll lead to more deaths than genocide.
Doffy wants to destroy everything under WG control, so... Genocide.
Rob Lucci derives pleasure from murdering anyone.
Big Mom destroys countries who can't give her candy
I don't think Enel's even really exponential here tbh.
Kaido intends to destroy the world through his war. At the very least, this means the WG goes down and there's no order. That'll lead to more deaths than genocide.
Doffy wants to destroy everything under WG control, so... Genocide.
Rob Lucci derives pleasure from murdering anyone.
Big Mom destroys countries who can't give her candy
I don't think Enel's even really exponential here tbh.
Orochi is indeed an evil bastard, can't argue with that
Destroying the world is a hyperbole, he just wants an epic war that the world has never seen before to cure his boredom. @bold: That's not a goal that he actively pursues, it's just a side effect of the war he wants so bad. Kaido is not the only pirate that wants the WG to crumble. It's true, he wouldn't care if the world were out of order and people died, but he's not actively trying to cause that to happen.
I agree.
Not as fucked as commiting genocide tho
Yup, she's an evil bitch as well
I mean... He's committed more genocide than anyone on this list except maybe Doffy...
Destroying the world is a hyperbole, he just wants an epic war that the world has never seen before to cure his boredom. @bold: That's not a goal that he actively pursues, it's just a side effect of the war he wants so bad. Kaido is not the only pirate that wants the WG to crumble. It's true, he wouldn't care if the world were out of order and people died, but he's not actively trying to cause that to happen.
I agree.
Not as fucked as commiting genocide tho
Yup, she's an evil bitch as well
I mean... He's committed more genocide than anyone on this list except maybe Doffy...
I don't think genocide itself supersedes other evil actions. Big Mom is undoubtedly responsible for more deaths than Enel. Kaido is too, and actively seeks a war to destroy the world. Hyperbole or not, this means a massive power vacuum that would result in potentially millions of deaths after the war. That is what Kaido will be responsible for and he doesn't seem to care about those lives or his actions.
Would beg to differ @the bold. Would you say that a random serial killer who loves killing but only has a body count of 4 people is as/more evil than someone like Hitler or Stalin? Purposeful mass destruction of thousands or millions of other living people is pretty up there in one of the worst things a human can do. Big Mom leaves nations in ruins and steals all their food and valuables… Just like what any other average pirate would do (except on a smaller scale because average pirates are weaker than Big Mom). She hasn't actually aimed at specifically only eradicating all life on an island like Enel or Doffy, she just commits the average pirate raids and pillaging on a larger scale. Again, Kaido is not the only pirate that wishes to see the World Government or his enemies crumble. He just happens to be one of the few (or only) people with the crew to achieve something like that in a huge war. And he doesn't want the entire world itself to end. It's a hyperbole, Kaido obviosuly knows that he can't destroy the Earth itself or everyone on it. It's like saying Goku is the most evil character in DBZ because he constantly puts the world/universe in danger just so he can have an amazing fight.
At this point we might have to agree to disagree lol.
At this point we might have to agree to disagree lol.
I'm not sure what you're getting at the start, because you even say the difference between Big Mom/Kaido in other posts is scale. That's the only difference between Enel and Lucci, and it's far more likely Lucci has murdered more people given his role in the government and his love of murder.
I think Big Mom valuing cookies over the lives of others, over their belongings, their nations and future pretty much puts her on the same spectrum as people like Crocodile or Enel but neither go out of their way to actively hurt people. For Crocodile it's just business, for Enel it's an ego / power trip. For Big Mom it's about her absolute greed over human lives. And yeah yeah, no, I said Kaido's statement is a hyperbole but that doesn't matter. In a war he wants to wage, it'll lead to millions suffering. He does not care about them or the ramifications of his goals. It's not like Goku at all.
But I'm fine to agree to disagree here.
I think Big Mom valuing cookies over the lives of others, over their belongings, their nations and future pretty much puts her on the same spectrum as people like Crocodile or Enel but neither go out of their way to actively hurt people. For Crocodile it's just business, for Enel it's an ego / power trip. For Big Mom it's about her absolute greed over human lives. And yeah yeah, no, I said Kaido's statement is a hyperbole but that doesn't matter. In a war he wants to wage, it'll lead to millions suffering. He does not care about them or the ramifications of his goals. It's not like Goku at all.
But I'm fine to agree to disagree here.