Future Events Rayleigh bounty guesses?

#44
Given the progression from less to more it's hard to imagine his bounty being less than Mihawk's but on the other hand given Oda's obsession with numbers Zoro's final bounty should be 3.6B based on his name and Mihawk's 3.59B is perfectly fine tuned to that.

So I can see his bounty being either 3.4B or 4B.
 
#46
Thing is that it doesn't really matter how much prestige Rayleigh has in the verse, it's not really gonna overcome clear patterns that Oda's established in the verse. Captain's bounties are usually much higher than subordinate bounties irregardless of strength or prestige of those subordinates. There's no changing that and I think Oda's even commented on something related to this in SBS before. So if you wanna measure Rayleigh's strength and prestige rather than comparing it to the the Yonko bounties, a more appropriate comparison would be with the Yonko commanders.
3 bil for instance in comparison to the likes of King, Marco, Kat etc which is significant. twice at least or even thrice as much in some cases.

Way I think Oda's gonna structure subordinate bounties going forward is as follows:
Yonko Commanders worth their salt: 1bil range
PK Runner up Yonko Commanders in the likes of Teach and Shanks top boys: 2bil range
PK top Commanders: 3bil range

3bil in itself is already well within Yonko bounty territory.
Because zoro will close in soon or later but not now. End of elbaf I can see zoro hitting 3B or close to 3Billion and luffy hitting 4+ Billion.

Zoro isn’t the level of ray/benn yet
His reputation isn’t know like them or even strong as luffy like ray/benn was with their captain.

I say this mainly because Benn and ray have the vice captain title unlike zoro
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Honestly we gotta wait for Benn bounty so we can estimate ray bounty

if Benn is around 3-3.9B then we can assume ray is around 4B
 
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#47
Being hailed as a legend, and scaring off Blackbeard while simultaneously having a lower bounty than Blackbeard in his prime doesn’t make sense to me I’m sorry.

And that’s kinda my main point, Rayleigh as a person has enough hype alone to warrant a 4 billion berry bounty. If oda wrote it as he didn’t have much hype but was just the subordinate of Roger, yeah 3ish would make sense. But that’s not how he’s treated imo.
I don't think bounty is a 1-1 representation of pedigree. So it isn't as simple as higher bounty = higher pedigree especially when you're comparing a Captain to a Subordinate.

Simplest example of this is Luffy and Zoro for instance, do you think a 2bil gap is truly an accurate representative of how the two of them stack against each other pedigree wise?

A bounty of 3bil+ does not mean that Rayleigh is any less than a Yonko. Again, I'd say remove the Yonko bounties from your head for a moment and look at the Yonko Commanders instead. The 3bil range in comparison to 1 bil range is world's apart and an accurate enough representation of a Rayleigh's prestige in my opinion.

See the admirals for example, who have a similar leader subordinate subordinate relationship (i.e. Fleet Admiral > Admirals hierarchy wise). These guys who are pretty much on par with the Yonko are in the 3bil range. Ray even in the 3bil range is likely to have a higher bounty than even the Admirals. Isn't that quite a bit of prestige in itself though?

We can disagree on this though.
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Because zoro will close in soon or later but not now. End of elbaf I can see zoro hitting 3B or close to 3Billion and luffy hitting 4+ Billion.

Zoro isn’t the level of ray/benn yet
His reputation isn’t know like them or even strong as luffy like ray/benn was with their captain.

I say this mainly because Benn and ray have the vice captain title unlike zoro
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Honestly we gotta wait for Benn bounty so we can estimate ray bounty

if Benn is around 3-3.9B then we can assume ray is around 4B
On the bolded bit, people have been saying this for as long as I can remember, I'm still waiting for it to happen lol
In my humble opinion it's not going to happen and there's strong evidence in the manga to back that. Hell even the Fleet Admiral has a 2bil bounty higher than the rest of the admirals but I digress.

I'm open minded on the possibility of Benn potentially shaking things up though, who knows this 60% percentage could increase but we'll see. Keep in mind though that assuming Benn's bounty conforms to Zoro's pattern of 60% it'd mean he'd have a bounty 2.4bil which is a whole bil more than the other top Yonko commanders. I'd say this is strong enough to indicate that Benn is built different from the rest of the so called YC1s. What you're implying is that Benn is going to be even more than that but again we'll see
 
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#48
Bounty doesnt always mean strength
Dragon could have higher bounty then whitebeard and even roger which I believe but he is weaker then them.

ray was simply a vice captain of the pirate king crew with a legendary reputation. Easily 4 billion
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Honestly it depends on the crew

Roger and shanks crew for example it’s likely different because both have vice captain who’s name and strength is close to the captain

then you got other crew like big mum kaido whitebeard and BB Who doesn’t have vice captain and you can clearly see the massive difference between the captain and his second strongest or command in reputation and strength

that’s why you can’t compare king katakuri Marco to Benn and ray.
I agree but both Ray and Mihawk are connected to Zoro as milestones, his most important end goals. More fitting if Mihawk has a higher bounty, bounties are for generating hype at the end of the day.
 
#54
Below Mihawk.

Mihawk hype is also together Shanks, which is also together WB and Roger, yet he has 3 billion.

So Rayleigh, which is below Roger and his peers, should be around 3 billon at much
Thing is even if Mihawk is stronger than Prime Ray which I think he is, he hasn't been part of a crew such the PK one much less being the VC so Ray bounty being above Mihawk's makes sense.

My guess is 3.9-4.2B so between 70-75% of Roger's bounty
 
#55
I'd say like 3.8B tops tbh. Not that Rayleigh doesn't deserve 4B, he's obviously there strength-wise but I doubt he's hitting 4B as a subordinate, who are always drastically below not only their captains but captains in general bounty-wise.

Even now, Zoro's only at 1.1B while Luffy's at 3B. Zoro would absolutely roflstomp every character with a bounty less than 2B yet this is all he has as a subordinate. I'd be surprised if Zoro himself makes it to 4B, but he may because Mihawk's is unusually very high. Actually crazy high when you think about it.

Though hopefully they all get the 4B+ that they deserve.
 
#59
Ray won't have a bounty below Posthawk or any other underling. He's the greatest sidekick/underling ever (even though he's weaker than Oden)
His bounty will be a little below Shanks or slightly bigger
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Rayleigh : 3.8B - 4.1B
Rayleigh and Scopper were both stronger than Oden :suresure:
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Thing is even if Mihawk is stronger than Prime Ray which I think he is,
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