Break Week Rayleigh should have died in Wano

#1
The more I think about it, the more I feel like Rayleigh needed to be in wano, and that him not being in wano was not only a wasted opportunity, but actually crippled the story.

I think Rayleigh being in wano makes sense from multiple angles
  • he was Oden's nakama
  • he fought the rocks pirates
  • he is Luffy's mentor and this is the arc where Luffy masters CoA, CoC, and surpasses Rayleigh
  • there are 2 yonko in wano and in act 1, the alliance was grossly unprepared to deal with this
  • Rayleigh's hypothetical death in wano would have boosted the stakes, hyped the yonko, and created a much greater personal reason for Luffy to beat kaido
One of the issues I feel Oda has is that he insists on including more and more new characters into this story instead of writing deeper arcs for older characters. For example, Hyogoro is an utterly pointless character.
He does virtually the same thing as Rayleigh, but he isn't nearly as strong or as knowledgable. The problem with doing this is that it makes it harder for audiences to feel invested in the story. Rayleigh is a character the audience is very familiar with. He was introduced in sabaody, he played an integral role during the timeskip, he was roger's right hand man. People would care infinitely more about wano if these pointless side characters were replaced with more well established ones.

Another one of Oda's issues is his reliance on plot armor and plot convenience. Big Mom is coming to wano but she's too strong, so what do we do? Well, lets make her retarded for half the arc. Because surely turning one of your main antagonists into a joke is good for the story, right? Kaido's haki is way stronger than Luffy's, so lets just let him go from having no ACoC to not only unlocking it, but also mastering it just by having him get KO'd a couple of times.

Bringing in Rayleigh would have solved all of this. Advanced haki would have a better set up, and villains can be allowed to be real villains. The SHs would seemingly have some shot at winning without PIS.

But beyond everything, Rayleigh would have given wano a vital piece it has been missing. An emotional core. I found it utterly impossible to be emotionally invested in the onigashima war. The characters just weren't written well enough for me to care. I think Rayleigh would have created the possibility for better written arcs, specifically for Luffy and as well as the yonko. Kaido and Big Mom have a past with Rayleigh and as well as with Roger. Rayleigh was Luffy's mentor, the one who trained him over the timeskip. He's also a milestone for Luffy to surpass, a legend that Luffy needs to overcome in order to be PK.

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Anyways, this idea came to me after watching the finale of the Obi wan Kenobi series. I couldn't help but notice how Rayleigh basically plays the same role as Obi wan did in star wars. Except, Obi wan was an extremely well developed character in both in the original trilogy and the prequels, and Rayleigh was basically used and thrown away by Oda. He came, he taught Luffy haki, now its been 500 chapters since he's actually done anything.

And it came to me how shallow and impersonal OP feels nowadays. Wano is just Luffy going to another arc, befriending some more useless fodder, and said useless fodder turning into the crux of the entire arc. I'm sorry, you can't just use utterly replaceable female characters(Tama, rebecca, ect.) to drive the conflict. Conflict needs to be personal to the MC, that's how you get the audience invested. Izo and Ashura's deaths were horrible and absolutely nobody cared about it. Especially since we the readers needed to wait months for actual confirmation on their deaths.

You know what readers would have cared about? Imagine if Rayleigh 2v1ed Kaido and Big Mom, and died in the process. Imagine Rayleigh seeing Luffy step up to the yonko in his final moments and in those last seconds of life, seeing Roger in Luffy. He dies happy, knowing Roger's will has been inherited. Imagine we get a funeral for Rayleigh post wano and it is in the midst of this sadness that Shanks finally meets Luffy after all these years, acknowledging him as a great pirate.

I know, I know, I'm basically writing fanfic. But these are the types of beats One piece has failed to hit ever since marineford. Who knows, maybe Oda has something better planned for Rayleigh. But honestly, Wano had a decade's worth of set up and imo Oda completely squandered its potential. With how many characters Oda is still yet to cover, I truly wouldn't be surprised if Rayleigh never does anything important again. And that's a shame, because he's far more important than these Tama princess type characters Oda keeps shitting out every single arc.
 
#4
The more I think about it, the more I feel like Rayleigh needed to be in wano, and that him not being in wano was not only a wasted opportunity, but actually crippled the story.

I think Rayleigh being in wano makes sense from multiple angles
  • he was Oden's nakama
  • he fought the rocks pirates
  • he is Luffy's mentor and this is the arc where Luffy masters CoA, CoC, and surpasses Rayleigh
  • there are 2 yonko in wano and in act 1, the alliance was grossly unprepared to deal with this
  • Rayleigh's hypothetical death in wano would have boosted the stakes, hyped the yonko, and created a much greater personal reason for Luffy to beat kaido
One of the issues I feel Oda has is that he insists on including more and more new characters into this story instead of writing deeper arcs for older characters. For example, Hyogoro is an utterly pointless character.
He does virtually the same thing as Rayleigh, but he isn't nearly as strong or as knowledgable. The problem with doing this is that it makes it harder for audiences to feel invested in the story. Rayleigh is a character the audience is very familiar with. He was introduced in sabaody, he played an integral role during the timeskip, he was roger's right hand man. People would care infinitely more about wano if these pointless side characters were replaced with more well established ones.

Another one of Oda's issues is his reliance on plot armor and plot convenience. Big Mom is coming to wano but she's too strong, so what do we do? Well, lets make her retarded for half the arc. Because surely turning one of your main antagonists into a joke is good for the story, right? Kaido's haki is way stronger than Luffy's, so lets just let him go from having no ACoC to not only unlocking it, but also mastering it just by having him get KO'd a couple of times.

Bringing in Rayleigh would have solved all of this. Advanced haki would have a better set up, and villains can be allowed to be real villains. The SHs would seemingly have some shot at winning without PIS.

But beyond everything, Rayleigh would have given wano a vital piece it has been missing. An emotional core. I found it utterly impossible to be emotionally invested in the onigashima war. The characters just weren't written well enough for me to care. I think Rayleigh would have created the possibility for better written arcs, specifically for Luffy and as well as the yonko. Kaido and Big Mom have a past with Rayleigh and as well as with Roger. Rayleigh was Luffy's mentor, the one who trained him over the timeskip. He's also a milestone for Luffy to surpass, a legend that Luffy needs to overcome in order to be PK.

*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Anyways, this idea came to me after watching the finale of the Obi wan Kenobi series. I couldn't help but notice how Rayleigh basically plays the same role as Obi wan did in star wars. Except, Obi wan was an extremely well developed character in both in the original trilogy and the prequels, and Rayleigh was basically used and thrown away by Oda. He came, he taught Luffy haki, now its been 500 chapters since he's actually done anything.

And it came to me how shallow and impersonal OP feels nowadays. Wano is just Luffy going to another arc, befriending some more useless fodder, and said useless fodder turning into the crux of the entire arc. I'm sorry, you can't just use utterly replaceable female characters(Tama, rebecca, ect.) to drive the conflict. Conflict needs to be personal to the MC, that's how you get the audience invested. Izo and Ashura's deaths were horrible and absolutely nobody cared about it. Especially since we the readers needed to wait months for actual confirmation on their deaths.

You know what readers would have cared about? Imagine if Rayleigh 2v1ed Kaido and Big Mom, and died in the process. Imagine Rayleigh seeing Luffy step up to the yonko in his final moments and in those last seconds of life, seeing Roger in Luffy. He dies happy, knowing Roger's will has been inherited. Imagine we get a funeral for Rayleigh post wano and it is in the midst of this sadness that Shanks finally meets Luffy after all these years, acknowledging him as a great pirate.

I know, I know, I'm basically writing fanfic. But these are the types of beats One piece has failed to hit ever since marineford. Who knows, maybe Oda has something better planned for Rayleigh. But honestly, Wano had a decade's worth of set up and imo Oda completely squandered its potential. With how many characters Oda is still yet to cover, I truly wouldn't be surprised if Rayleigh never does anything important again. And that's a shame, because he's far more important than these Tama princess type characters Oda keeps shitting out every single arc.
Problem with Wano is things were too convenient for the alliance,Oda should have found another way for the alliannce to win.More scabbards,minks and samurai should have died.Kidd should have unlocked COC coating;BMP should have taken part in the raid.Luffy vs Kaido was great,i liked it.
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The more I think about it, the more I feel like Rayleigh needed to be in wano, and that him not being in wano was not only a wasted opportunity, but actually crippled the story.

I think Rayleigh being in wano makes sense from multiple angles
  • he was Oden's nakama
  • he fought the rocks pirates
  • he is Luffy's mentor and this is the arc where Luffy masters CoA, CoC, and surpasses Rayleigh
  • there are 2 yonko in wano and in act 1, the alliance was grossly unprepared to deal with this
  • Rayleigh's hypothetical death in wano would have boosted the stakes, hyped the yonko, and created a much greater personal reason for Luffy to beat kaido
One of the issues I feel Oda has is that he insists on including more and more new characters into this story instead of writing deeper arcs for older characters. For example, Hyogoro is an utterly pointless character.
He does virtually the same thing as Rayleigh, but he isn't nearly as strong or as knowledgable. The problem with doing this is that it makes it harder for audiences to feel invested in the story. Rayleigh is a character the audience is very familiar with. He was introduced in sabaody, he played an integral role during the timeskip, he was roger's right hand man. People would care infinitely more about wano if these pointless side characters were replaced with more well established ones.

Another one of Oda's issues is his reliance on plot armor and plot convenience. Big Mom is coming to wano but she's too strong, so what do we do? Well, lets make her retarded for half the arc. Because surely turning one of your main antagonists into a joke is good for the story, right? Kaido's haki is way stronger than Luffy's, so lets just let him go from having no ACoC to not only unlocking it, but also mastering it just by having him get KO'd a couple of times.

Bringing in Rayleigh would have solved all of this. Advanced haki would have a better set up, and villains can be allowed to be real villains. The SHs would seemingly have some shot at winning without PIS.

But beyond everything, Rayleigh would have given wano a vital piece it has been missing. An emotional core. I found it utterly impossible to be emotionally invested in the onigashima war. The characters just weren't written well enough for me to care. I think Rayleigh would have created the possibility for better written arcs, specifically for Luffy and as well as the yonko. Kaido and Big Mom have a past with Rayleigh and as well as with Roger. Rayleigh was Luffy's mentor, the one who trained him over the timeskip. He's also a milestone for Luffy to surpass, a legend that Luffy needs to overcome in order to be PK.

*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Anyways, this idea came to me after watching the finale of the Obi wan Kenobi series. I couldn't help but notice how Rayleigh basically plays the same role as Obi wan did in star wars. Except, Obi wan was an extremely well developed character in both in the original trilogy and the prequels, and Rayleigh was basically used and thrown away by Oda. He came, he taught Luffy haki, now its been 500 chapters since he's actually done anything.

And it came to me how shallow and impersonal OP feels nowadays. Wano is just Luffy going to another arc, befriending some more useless fodder, and said useless fodder turning into the crux of the entire arc. I'm sorry, you can't just use utterly replaceable female characters(Tama, rebecca, ect.) to drive the conflict. Conflict needs to be personal to the MC, that's how you get the audience invested. Izo and Ashura's deaths were horrible and absolutely nobody cared about it. Especially since we the readers needed to wait months for actual confirmation on their deaths.

You know what readers would have cared about? Imagine if Rayleigh 2v1ed Kaido and Big Mom, and died in the process. Imagine Rayleigh seeing Luffy step up to the yonko in his final moments and in those last seconds of life, seeing Roger in Luffy. He dies happy, knowing Roger's will has been inherited. Imagine we get a funeral for Rayleigh post wano and it is in the midst of this sadness that Shanks finally meets Luffy after all these years, acknowledging him as a great pirate.

I know, I know, I'm basically writing fanfic. But these are the types of beats One piece has failed to hit ever since marineford. Who knows, maybe Oda has something better planned for Rayleigh. But honestly, Wano had a decade's worth of set up and imo Oda completely squandered its potential. With how many characters Oda is still yet to cover, I truly wouldn't be surprised if Rayleigh never does anything important again. And that's a shame, because he's far more important than these Tama princess type characters Oda keeps shitting out every single arc.
Wano was disappointing.It should have been way better.
 
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#5
Agree. Would be better Rayleigh showing up in Wano to finish Luffy training other than having him discovery things by himself. At least FS was told by Rayleigh. He didn't said a shit about internal damage and conqueror coating.
 
#6
Rayleigh should've died in marineford

the fuck was that old fart doing when his captain's son was being executed? Just drinking and watching, not doing shit when he can swim to marinford no problem and help rescue his captain's son.
He actually cried for WB but not a single word about Ace.
 
#7
The more I think about it, the more I feel like Rayleigh needed to be in wano, and that him not being in wano was not only a wasted opportunity, but actually crippled the story.

I think Rayleigh being in wano makes sense from multiple angles
  • he was Oden's nakama
  • he fought the rocks pirates
  • he is Luffy's mentor and this is the arc where Luffy masters CoA, CoC, and surpasses Rayleigh
  • there are 2 yonko in wano and in act 1, the alliance was grossly unprepared to deal with this
  • Rayleigh's hypothetical death in wano would have boosted the stakes, hyped the yonko, and created a much greater personal reason for Luffy to beat kaido
One of the issues I feel Oda has is that he insists on including more and more new characters into this story instead of writing deeper arcs for older characters. For example, Hyogoro is an utterly pointless character.
He does virtually the same thing as Rayleigh, but he isn't nearly as strong or as knowledgable. The problem with doing this is that it makes it harder for audiences to feel invested in the story. Rayleigh is a character the audience is very familiar with. He was introduced in sabaody, he played an integral role during the timeskip, he was roger's right hand man. People would care infinitely more about wano if these pointless side characters were replaced with more well established ones.

Another one of Oda's issues is his reliance on plot armor and plot convenience. Big Mom is coming to wano but she's too strong, so what do we do? Well, lets make her retarded for half the arc. Because surely turning one of your main antagonists into a joke is good for the story, right? Kaido's haki is way stronger than Luffy's, so lets just let him go from having no ACoC to not only unlocking it, but also mastering it just by having him get KO'd a couple of times.

Bringing in Rayleigh would have solved all of this. Advanced haki would have a better set up, and villains can be allowed to be real villains. The SHs would seemingly have some shot at winning without PIS.

But beyond everything, Rayleigh would have given wano a vital piece it has been missing. An emotional core. I found it utterly impossible to be emotionally invested in the onigashima war. The characters just weren't written well enough for me to care. I think Rayleigh would have created the possibility for better written arcs, specifically for Luffy and as well as the yonko. Kaido and Big Mom have a past with Rayleigh and as well as with Roger. Rayleigh was Luffy's mentor, the one who trained him over the timeskip. He's also a milestone for Luffy to surpass, a legend that Luffy needs to overcome in order to be PK.

*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Anyways, this idea came to me after watching the finale of the Obi wan Kenobi series. I couldn't help but notice how Rayleigh basically plays the same role as Obi wan did in star wars. Except, Obi wan was an extremely well developed character in both in the original trilogy and the prequels, and Rayleigh was basically used and thrown away by Oda. He came, he taught Luffy haki, now its been 500 chapters since he's actually done anything.

And it came to me how shallow and impersonal OP feels nowadays. Wano is just Luffy going to another arc, befriending some more useless fodder, and said useless fodder turning into the crux of the entire arc. I'm sorry, you can't just use utterly replaceable female characters(Tama, rebecca, ect.) to drive the conflict. Conflict needs to be personal to the MC, that's how you get the audience invested. Izo and Ashura's deaths were horrible and absolutely nobody cared about it. Especially since we the readers needed to wait months for actual confirmation on their deaths.

You know what readers would have cared about? Imagine if Rayleigh 2v1ed Kaido and Big Mom, and died in the process. Imagine Rayleigh seeing Luffy step up to the yonko in his final moments and in those last seconds of life, seeing Roger in Luffy. He dies happy, knowing Roger's will has been inherited. Imagine we get a funeral for Rayleigh post wano and it is in the midst of this sadness that Shanks finally meets Luffy after all these years, acknowledging him as a great pirate.

I know, I know, I'm basically writing fanfic. But these are the types of beats One piece has failed to hit ever since marineford. Who knows, maybe Oda has something better planned for Rayleigh. But honestly, Wano had a decade's worth of set up and imo Oda completely squandered its potential. With how many characters Oda is still yet to cover, I truly wouldn't be surprised if Rayleigh never does anything important again. And that's a shame, because he's far more important than these Tama princess type characters Oda keeps shitting out every single arc.
Rayleigh is too strong for anyone in wano to kill if he's helping the alliance
 
#8
Rayleigh should've died in marineford

the fuck was that old fart doing when his captain's son was being executed? Just drinking and watching, not doing shit when he can swim to marinford no problem and help rescue his captain's son.
He actually cried for WB but not a single word about Ace.
It's fine. Roger entrusted Ace to Garp. Then, Ace made a sequence of his own decisions and ended up with Whitebeard, whom he acknowledged as his father. Rayleigh has no business with Ace and shouldn't be interested in waging war against the Marines to protect Ace, just because he is the father of Roger, who died over 20 years ago.
 
#9
Rayleigh should've died in marineford

the fuck was that old fart doing when his captain's son was being executed? Just drinking and watching, not doing shit when he can swim to marinford no problem and help rescue his captain's son.
He actually cried for WB but not a single word about Ace.
why should he care about rogers son it is not like he knows him even if he knows him why should he care
 
#13
His captain son his not worth his life, cmon you expect Rayleigh to kill himself for a stupid Kid that he does not know
lmao, he literally helped out Luffy and his crew and endangered himself by fighting an admiral and revealing his hideout island to marines

You cannot be serious that he needs to have a relationship with Ace in order to help him. That's his CAPTAIN'S son.
 
#14
lmao, he literally helped out Luffy and his crew and endangered himself by fighting an admiral and revealing his hideout island to marines

You cannot be serious that he needs to have a relationship with Ace in order to help him. That's his CAPTAIN'S son.
He saw luffy’s potential. why should he care about a random bastard that Roger had. Again why is Rayleigh obligated to help Rogers son
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Also explain why ray as not gone to wano to help their citizens since oden is from wano
 
#15
Rayleigh should've died in marineford

the fuck was that old fart doing when his captain's son was being executed? Just drinking and watching, not doing shit when he can swim to marinford no problem and help rescue his captain's son.
He actually cried for WB but not a single word about Ace.
I think this can be explained away. Rayleigh wasn't really needed in MF, as there were other characters to help Luffy. Plus, we don't even know if Roger told Rayleigh about Ace. Its very possible that Rayleigh never knew.
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Rayleigh is too strong for anyone in wano to kill if he's helping the alliance
It would have worked out if Oda treated big mom like a real threat and not comic relief.
On paper she should have been equal to kaido, but Oda never gave her those feats because plot.

I don't know why Oda would rather handicap big mom than boost the allies. Like instead of the stupid bombs BS, what if Oda had BM get seriously injured by Rayleigh before Kid and Law fought her. Wouldn't that be more rewarding? Wouldn't that make more sense than big mom literally defeating herself by punching a bomb?

That's the type of shit that would happen in literally any other manga.
 
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#16
The more I think about it, the more I feel like Rayleigh needed to be in wano, and that him not being in wano was not only a wasted opportunity, but actually crippled the story.

I think Rayleigh being in wano makes sense from multiple angles
  • he was Oden's nakama
  • he fought the rocks pirates
  • he is Luffy's mentor and this is the arc where Luffy masters CoA, CoC, and surpasses Rayleigh
  • there are 2 yonko in wano and in act 1, the alliance was grossly unprepared to deal with this
  • Rayleigh's hypothetical death in wano would have boosted the stakes, hyped the yonko, and created a much greater personal reason for Luffy to beat kaido
One of the issues I feel Oda has is that he insists on including more and more new characters into this story instead of writing deeper arcs for older characters. For example, Hyogoro is an utterly pointless character.
He does virtually the same thing as Rayleigh, but he isn't nearly as strong or as knowledgable. The problem with doing this is that it makes it harder for audiences to feel invested in the story. Rayleigh is a character the audience is very familiar with. He was introduced in sabaody, he played an integral role during the timeskip, he was roger's right hand man. People would care infinitely more about wano if these pointless side characters were replaced with more well established ones.

Another one of Oda's issues is his reliance on plot armor and plot convenience. Big Mom is coming to wano but she's too strong, so what do we do? Well, lets make her retarded for half the arc. Because surely turning one of your main antagonists into a joke is good for the story, right? Kaido's haki is way stronger than Luffy's, so lets just let him go from having no ACoC to not only unlocking it, but also mastering it just by having him get KO'd a couple of times.

Bringing in Rayleigh would have solved all of this. Advanced haki would have a better set up, and villains can be allowed to be real villains. The SHs would seemingly have some shot at winning without PIS.

But beyond everything, Rayleigh would have given wano a vital piece it has been missing. An emotional core. I found it utterly impossible to be emotionally invested in the onigashima war. The characters just weren't written well enough for me to care. I think Rayleigh would have created the possibility for better written arcs, specifically for Luffy and as well as the yonko. Kaido and Big Mom have a past with Rayleigh and as well as with Roger. Rayleigh was Luffy's mentor, the one who trained him over the timeskip. He's also a milestone for Luffy to surpass, a legend that Luffy needs to overcome in order to be PK.

*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Anyways, this idea came to me after watching the finale of the Obi wan Kenobi series. I couldn't help but notice how Rayleigh basically plays the same role as Obi wan did in star wars. Except, Obi wan was an extremely well developed character in both in the original trilogy and the prequels, and Rayleigh was basically used and thrown away by Oda. He came, he taught Luffy haki, now its been 500 chapters since he's actually done anything.

And it came to me how shallow and impersonal OP feels nowadays. Wano is just Luffy going to another arc, befriending some more useless fodder, and said useless fodder turning into the crux of the entire arc. I'm sorry, you can't just use utterly replaceable female characters(Tama, rebecca, ect.) to drive the conflict. Conflict needs to be personal to the MC, that's how you get the audience invested. Izo and Ashura's deaths were horrible and absolutely nobody cared about it. Especially since we the readers needed to wait months for actual confirmation on their deaths.

You know what readers would have cared about? Imagine if Rayleigh 2v1ed Kaido and Big Mom, and died in the process. Imagine Rayleigh seeing Luffy step up to the yonko in his final moments and in those last seconds of life, seeing Roger in Luffy. He dies happy, knowing Roger's will has been inherited. Imagine we get a funeral for Rayleigh post wano and it is in the midst of this sadness that Shanks finally meets Luffy after all these years, acknowledging him as a great pirate.

I know, I know, I'm basically writing fanfic. But these are the types of beats One piece has failed to hit ever since marineford. Who knows, maybe Oda has something better planned for Rayleigh. But honestly, Wano had a decade's worth of set up and imo Oda completely squandered its potential. With how many characters Oda is still yet to cover, I truly wouldn't be surprised if Rayleigh never does anything important again. And that's a shame, because he's far more important than these Tama princess type characters Oda keeps shitting out every single arc.
It never ceases to amaze me how little some of you understand One Piece after more than 1000 chapters. I don't think it's a serious matter either, but when you criticize something without understanding it, you only put yourself in evidence. Rayileigh's presence in Wano doesn't make any sense.
  • Rayleigh belongs to the old era. This is a new age thing. Much emphasis has been placed on this concept. If Rayleigh has to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for Luffy, she'll never learn.
  • Raylegh's death would only be a cheap expedient. Killing beloved characters just for fun would be much worse than non-deaths. It is much better the deaths of Yasuie, Ashura and Izo. They are real deaths, not artificial deaths just to please a certain audience.
  • Luffy doesn't need reasons to defeat Kaido, or any enemy. He does it because he wants to. Make no mistake, Luffy is a pirate, he is selfish, he is not a hero. Luffy has defeated Kaido because he wanted to, it was planned before he knew about the Samurai, saving Wano is just an extra for Luffy.
  • You say that Rayleigh will serve to give Wano an emotional core. And I tell you that if you didn't shed a tear with the story of Toko, Tama and the Akazaya, you have no emotions. Precisely what makes One piece so good are its secondary characters, complaining about that is ridiculous.
I won't say that Oda's treatment of Big Mom is perfect. I think it could have been done better, it's not that bad either, but your complaint doesn't make any sense either.

Many believe that the Yonkou would be very strong, very bad, very smart, very perfect. This is your problem. Being a Yonko only requires strength, a requirement that both Kaido and Big Mom fulfill. In One Piece it is perfectly normal for a Yonko to be childish, drunk or stupid. Otherwise, Luffy wouldn't be there.
 
#17
It never ceases to amaze me how little some of you understand One Piece after more than 1000 chapters. I don't think it's a serious matter either, but when you criticize something without understanding it, you only put yourself in evidence. Rayileigh's presence in Wano doesn't make any sense.
  • Rayleigh belongs to the old era. This is a new age thing. Much emphasis has been placed on this concept. If Rayleigh has to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for Luffy, she'll never learn.
  • Raylegh's death would only be a cheap expedient. Killing beloved characters just for fun would be much worse than non-deaths. It is much better the deaths of Yasuie, Ashura and Izo. They are real deaths, not artificial deaths just to please a certain audience.
  • Luffy doesn't need reasons to defeat Kaido, or any enemy. He does it because he wants to. Make no mistake, Luffy is a pirate, he is selfish, he is not a hero. Luffy has defeated Kaido because he wanted to, it was planned before he knew about the Samurai, saving Wano is just an extra for Luffy.
  • You say that Rayleigh will serve to give Wano an emotional core. And I tell you that if you didn't shed a tear with the story of Toko, Tama and the Akazaya, you have no emotions. Precisely what makes One piece so good are its secondary characters, complaining about that is ridiculous.
I won't say that Oda's treatment of Big Mom is perfect. I think it could have been done better, it's not that bad either, but your complaint doesn't make any sense either.

Many believe that the Yonkou would be very strong, very bad, very smart, very perfect. This is your problem. Being a Yonko only requires strength, a requirement that both Kaido and Big Mom fulfill. In One Piece it is perfectly normal for a Yonko to be childish, drunk or stupid. Otherwise, Luffy wouldn't be there.
Akazaya who?
Tama toko cheap emotional crap.
 
#18
The Akazaya are the scabbard.

Tama toko cheap emotional crap.
Tama and Toko are anything but emotional characters.
  • Tama has been a very important character in many facets, not just war. He is a character that was introduced in Marine Ford, when Ace told us about the banbu hats. Tama is the character that tells us about the state of Wano. In addition to creating a link with Luffy and Zoro. He is a character.
  • Toko is at a lower level. But it's also important as it interconnects Yasuie, Hiyori and Zoro.
Having so many characters and being so well developed is one of the things that has always distinguished One Piece from other Shonen. This also causes chapters to be "lost". We can't expect to have good characters without spending chapters on them.

I can understand the complaints about Dressrosa's endless runs, as it's a pointless waste of chapters. But spending chapters to develop characters and the One Piece universe is a good expense.
 
#20
The Akazaya are the scabbard.



Tama and Toko are anything but emotional characters.
  • Tama has been a very important character in many facets, not just war. He is a character that was introduced in Marine Ford, when Ace told us about the banbu hats. Tama is the character that tells us about the state of Wano. In addition to creating a link with Luffy and Zoro. He is a character.
  • Toko is at a lower level. But it's also important as it interconnects Yasuie, Hiyori and Zoro.
Having so many characters and being so well developed is one of the things that has always distinguished One Piece from other Shonen. This also causes chapters to be "lost". We can't expect to have good characters without spending chapters on them.

I can understand the complaints about Dressrosa's endless runs, as it's a pointless waste of chapters. But spending chapters to develop characters and the One Piece universe is a good expense.
If Oda needs to keep creating new useless fodder to make us care about the arc, then maybe he should go write some other story.

If the story of momo, the scabbards, tama, and toko is taking greater importance over the story of Luffy finding the OP and becoming pirate king, then this arc is mostly filler. Which it is.
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Rayleigh belongs to the old era. This is a new age thing. Much emphasis has been placed on this concept. If Rayleigh has to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for Luffy, she'll never learn.
  • Raylegh's death would only be a cheap expedient. Killing beloved characters just for fun would be much worse than non-deaths. It is much better the deaths of Yasuie, Ashura and Izo. They are real deaths, not artificial deaths just to please a certain audience.
  • Luffy doesn't need reasons to defeat Kaido, or any enemy. He does it because he wants to. Make no mistake, Luffy is a pirate, he is selfish, he is not a hero. Luffy has defeated Kaido because he wanted to, it was planned before he knew about the Samurai, saving Wano is just an extra for Luffy.
  • You say that Rayleigh will serve to give Wano an emotional core. And I tell you that if you didn't shed a tear with the story of Toko, Tama and the Akazaya, you have no emotions. Precisely what makes One piece so good are its secondary characters, complaining about that is ridiculous.
wano kuni is an utterly souless arc. I do not understand how anybody could be emotionally invested in the story Oda presents.

The chimera ant arc in HxH was a similar war arc against a similarly overpowered antagonist, and it utterly shits on wano.
The infinity stone arc in avengers also has the same concept and utterly shits on wano.
Even marineford is better than wano.
 
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