Questions & Mysteries Recent Defeats, who Returns? (Futures)

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#1
So we have had some insane chapters coming out recently:

BB, Augor, Burgess, Doc vs Heart Pirates - winners BB - Law and Bepo escape.

we are certain these two will return as Law is showing to be Luffys only true rival from the Supernovas and he hs to save his crew overall. Law didn’t look as bad as Lidd did but Bepos cry to stay alive should indicate BB dealt some serious damage to him.

thoughts: Law returns doesn’t win against BB but saves the crew loses the Rubbings.

Shanks v Kidd: an utter disappointment or an utter hype wank for Shanks, regardless Shanks looks virtually dead from taking Divine Departure head on with no real defense outside of the true captain in Killer. They were both one shot and had their ship sunk by the giants. Unless Shanks had them rescued I don’t think we see them for quite sometime.

thoughts: possible scenario is he is saved and rescued by someone who else we haven’t seen before and gets his own personal training to come back and be able to finally match Luffy given the trio of Law Kidd and Luffy we’re all painted to be the ones leading the SN albeit they are Kidd has just been disappointing so far. Could the man marked by flames be the one to possible save Kidd?

Luffy and Co v Kizaru and Buster Call: rn all we know is something monumental and disastrous is coming to Egghead and the events there.

thoughts: personally I have Kizaru falling her along with Kuzan against Garp. Kizaru and Saturn may or may not have a flash with Zoro and Luffy but it won’t be an all out brawl I think someone else will join the party to allow Luffy Bonney and Vegapunk escape. Personally given the moves of Imu and Gorosei targeting Sabo I doubt that Dragon stays seated, I have Dragon and the revolutionaries as interference to counter Kizaru and the BC, is Sabo with them is the bigger question. It’s safe to assume dragon is aware of VP short time left with the WG do it makes sense for him to head out and try and save Vegapunk to not only save an ally but to finally save Kuma while engaging the WG and Gorosei directly they can also try and get info on Sabos whereabouts if alive still.

Aokiji, Shiryuu, Vasco and Co vs PK Garp - winner Garp v Aokiji: Garp.

I think this fight is going to be a testament to the old guard and how powerful the old man trio actually is, I don’t think this would be a long drawn out fight but I think at least Kuzan falls here is it an utter defeat or extreme diffs no I think it’s just a loss of Koby and a loss of being unable to fully go against his teacher and also having a sign of confusion on if he’s making the right choice, as of rn I don’t see too many who could can compete against Shiryuu and crew from Garps forces unless it’s his right hand man and maybe one of the other Admiral caliber marines that was mentioned previous to counter them. Garp is also displaying a level of Haki that we haven’t even seen or even understand yet.

What are your thoughts on who falls and who returns or what do you think will happen ?
 
#4
Garp is getting folded, it's needed for the story to progress.

Egghead is a wildcard, the only thing I take as granted is that the place will be absolutely obliterated. Luffy and co. will obviously escape, but I'm honestly not sure if they will take Kizaru out first. And Saturn is a wild card too - I'm glad we will soon know if Gorosei are actual fighters with absolutely insane powers or not. All in all, hard to guess here.
 
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Herrera95

#8
we are certain these two will return as Law is showing to be Luffys only true rival from the Supernovas and he hs to save his crew overall. Law didn’t look as bad as Lidd did but Bepos cry to stay alive should indicate BB dealt some serious damage to him.

thoughts: Law returns doesn’t win against BB but saves the crew loses the Rubbings.
People are forgetting that a simply momentary escape doesn't mean Law and Bepo are safe. Something has to trigger for Teach to leave Law behind. Maybe a Den Den Mushi hearing Garp is invading his Island?

Shanks v Kidd: an utter disappointment or an utter hype wank for Shanks, regardless Shanks looks virtually dead from taking Divine Departure head on with no real defense outside of the true captain in Killer. They were both one shot and had their ship sunk by the giants. Unless Shanks had them rescued I don’t think we see them for quite sometime.

thoughts: possible scenario is he is saved and rescued by someone who else we haven’t seen before and gets his own personal training to come back and be able to finally match Luffy given the trio of Law Kidd and Luffy we’re all painted to be the ones leading the SN albeit they are Kidd has just been disappointing so far. Could the man marked by flames be the one to possible save Kidd?
For sure they are not dead... YET.
They have to be saved. I don't believe Man Marked by Flames will save them or any giant so it is a big mysterie.
I don't believe in a trainning arc for Kid either although he needed.
But for sure he has to comeback somehow. He is the first connection of the man marked by flames that has the last poneglyph. Maybe even someone from Teach's crew rescues him?

Luffy and Co v Kizaru and Buster Call: rn all we know is something monumental and disastrous is coming to Egghead and the events there.

thoughts: personally I have Kizaru falling her along with Kuzan against Garp. Kizaru and Saturn may or may not have a flash with Zoro and Luffy but it won’t be an all out brawl I think someone else will join the party to allow Luffy Bonney and Vegapunk escape. Personally given the moves of Imu and Gorosei targeting Sabo I doubt that Dragon stays seated, I have Dragon and the revolutionaries as interference to counter Kizaru and the BC, is Sabo with them is the bigger question. It’s safe to assume dragon is aware of VP short time left with the WG do it makes sense for him to head out and try and save Vegapunk to not only save an ally but to finally save Kuma while engaging the WG and Gorosei directly they can also try and get info on Sabos whereabouts if alive still.
This is impossible fight for Strawhats similar to Sabaody pre-timeskip. I believe it will be offscreened for now. A little timeskip where Strawhats are once again separated. They kind of lost because they have to escape but they kind of win because Marines send such a monster power fleet against them and wasn't able to defeat or arrest them. So in someway it looks both good and bad for both parts. People inside battleground knows Marines had the upper hand but people outside battleground(Fake News Morgans) will make marines look silly and Strawhats look amazing.

Aokiji, Shiryuu, Vasco and Co vs PK Garp - winner Garp v Aokiji: Garp.

I think this fight is going to be a testament to the old guard and how powerful the old man trio actually is, I don’t think this would be a long drawn out fight but I think at least Kuzan falls here is it an utter defeat or extreme diffs no I think it’s just a loss of Koby and a loss of being unable to fully go against his teacher and also having a sign of confusion on if he’s making the right choice, as of rn I don’t see too many who could can compete against Shiryuu and crew from Garps forces unless it’s his right hand man and maybe one of the other Admiral caliber marines that was mentioned previous to counter them. Garp is also displaying a level of Haki that we haven’t even seen or even understand yet.
This is the biggest mysterie for me right now.

I think everybody agree that Garp dies now but by who and how much he accomplish his mission? To me he would be similar to WB but more succesfull since I don't see reason for Coby dying for example. He would fullfill his rescue mission and die for it. The question is if Aokiji kills him, or Shiryuu or Teach's crew gangbang on him. I would bet on a gangbang similar to WB. He beats Aokiji(not completely) and also Shiryuu but then everybody join forces against him and he falls.
 
#13

Peroroncino

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#14
Why can't people accept the truth that Mid and Flaw must never return?
These two plagued the story horribly by pretending they were rivals for Condom-Boy's gang.
Them being permanently written off is a must. Thus,the story can go back to nicely telling the journey of its rightful main cast the way it was before.
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i think kidd is dead tbh, his story mirrors the real life kid who died tragically too while his crew watched
 
#15
Why can't people accept the truth that Mid and Flaw must never return?
These two plagued the story horribly by pretending they were rivals for Condom-Boy's gang.
Them being permanently written off is a must. Thus,the story can go back to nicely telling the journey of its rightful main cast the way it was before.
@Peroroncino @Warchief Sanji D Goat @bluefire12 @ZenZu @Nidai_Kitetsu @Gol D. Roger @Roo
@Doggo @Vanlax @uyuu @Monkey D Theories @Moegara @roronoa_fan @Artem
@gz89 @Sir Yasheen
They'll be back but I wish they didn't. At least Kid. Law is cool, his only flaw is having taken too much of the straw hats screentime over the years, but he's cool.
 
#19
Why can't people accept the truth that Mid and Flaw must never return?
These two plagued the story horribly by pretending they were rivals for Condom-Boy's gang.
Them being permanently written off is a must. Thus,the story can go back to nicely telling the journey of its rightful main cast the way it was before.
@Peroroncino @Warchief Sanji D Goat @bluefire12 @ZenZu @Nidai_Kitetsu @Gol D. Roger @Roo
@Doggo @Vanlax @uyuu @Monkey D Theories @Moegara @roronoa_fan @Artem
@gz89 @Sir Yasheen
If Law returns would you agree to delete your account?
 
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CensoredbyWG

#20
I wouldnt be surprised if the egghead arc is already over and the next time we see SHs, they will be on their way to elbaf
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Why can't people accept the truth that Mid and Flaw must never return?
These two plagued the story horribly by pretending they were rivals for Condom-Boy's gang.
Them being permanently written off is a must. Thus,the story can go back to nicely telling the journey of its rightful main cast the way it was before.
@Peroroncino @Warchief Sanji D Goat @bluefire12 @ZenZu @Nidai_Kitetsu @Gol D. Roger @Roo
@Doggo @Vanlax @uyuu @Monkey D Theories @Moegara @roronoa_fan @Artem
@gz89 @Sir Yasheen
Mid will be a bronze medalist during the final arc, he will be the tsundere rival to luffy.

As for law, he will eventually die due to the heart surgery that someone forces him to do.
 
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