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#22
I swear every fucking time a character gets a W, there's a thread of Sanji fans crying how life is unfair for them
Get a grip
Nobody mentioned how Ussop and Nami tanked 4 or 5 Ulti's Haki infuse headbutts, but i see no Ussop and Nami fans crying about it, but Sanji fans have to be bitches
Like seriously, just how insecure Sanji fans can get
- Oh Zoro can block Hakai? So can Sanji
- Oh Jinbei can block Shigan Madara? So can Sanji
- Oh Zoro can scar Kaidou? So can Sanji
- Oh Yamato can stall Kaidou? So can Sanji
 
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RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#24
First even if we equalized BM/WsW situation Jimbe feats is quite better :

- WsW was using a powerful piercing attack, a named one, and apparently one of his best
- WsW was in full hybrid
- WsW was using haki
- Jimbe actually did it and had to go full body haki to do it showing good haki mastery and hardening his skin a lot, this was not his usual COA
- WsW is likely stronger than BM

But yeah what Sanji said cannot be discarded just like that :
- BM is a giant Tobi roppo, the woman is strong, even in base she is strong
- She was using brass knuckles
- Sanji respects women strength he even called Robin to save his ass because he knew she was strong
- And Sanji knew he shouldnt receive too much damage because of the war if he had a way to protect himself without hurting Maria he would have done it
- So yeah I can buy Sanji statement for a bit. I don’t know if BM would have a broken fists hitting on Sanji COA but we can believe she will be a bit hurt at least

But even if we believe that Jimbe feat is still quite better
 
#26
A lot of people are hyping up Jinbe’s CoA because WsW broke his fingers from hitting Jinbe, but remember when Black Maria was punching Sanji and Sanji said that he can’t use CoA to defend himself or else his hardened body will hurt Black Maria’s knuckles? Why doesn’t anybody give Sanji credit for this? This is just as good as Jinbe’s feat
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Why doesn't anybody give Zoro credit for this? It's the best feat in the verse
 
#27
A Sanji fan crying again because of his lack of feats? Unexpected. They rlly love to use the "x character did it so Sanji should be able to do the same thing". At this point I am expecting to see at least one Sanji stan saying in the future "Zoro defeated Mihawk so Sanji is also able to defeat him."
Sanji: Leave this big dinosaur to me.

People: OMG, Drake and Apoo will help Sanji against Queen confirmed!!!

Zoro: I am here to cut down Kaido!!!!

Also Zoro: I wish I could knock you down at least.

People: OMG, ZKK rise up!!!!!

Luffy: I will beat Kaido like I always do against other opponents.

People: LUL, Luffy got negs diffed. Luffy is trash.

Sanji: My armament haki turn off because I couldn't risk to hurt a lady's hands.

People: Nooo, Sanji can't hurt her. His haki is trash, he needed help from Robin, etc.

Me:
Doesn't the same thing apply to you tho?
Sanji: "If I use CoA I might hurt her."
Sanji stans: "On god, facts. Everyone knew it."
Zoro: "I am going to cut Kaido into pieces."
Also Sanji stans: "Drop the cap, not going to happen."
Isn't that some kind of... hypocrisy?
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#28
A lot of people are hyping up Jinbe’s CoA because WsW broke his fingers from hitting Jinbe, but remember when Black Maria was punching Sanji and Sanji said that he can’t use CoA to defend himself or else his hardened body will hurt Black Maria’s knuckles? Why doesn’t anybody give Sanji credit for this? This is just as good as Jinbe’s feat
I'm fairly confident that WsW stands above Black Maria, expecially durability wise. I don't think this makes Sanji looks so well per se when normally a Sanji fan would hope he stands above Jinbe.
 
#29
Sanji has already been excessively characterized as a womanizer/simp. This dialogue was unnecessary for characterizing him, and it was clearly written by Oda in order to preemptively answer the question of “Why doesn’t Sanji at least use CoA to reduce the damage he receives?”
This is an absolutely terrible argument, that could be applied to literally every interaction has had with a woman post timeskip. There was more than enough time spent on Sanji being a womanizer/pervert in the pre timeskip, that it shouldn’t have warranted the focus it’s gotten thereafter, yet it has. The reason is because one of Oda’s writing traits is to continually reinforce character traits. He does this for literally all the Straw Hats. Sanji’s statement was not one indicating his strength, but yet another moment of him being a womanizer/pervert, context given yet again when he only attacked males in that specific room.

There is zero justification for taking it as argument for his strength as opposed to yet another moment where he is womanizing. Furthermore, it flies directly in the face of the fact that he got the Raid Suit precisely because his CoA is not up to snuff, to put him adequately at the level of higher New World vets, as has been demonstrated numerous times.

The only reason this argument exists is because people are salty about Jinbe’s strength. Stop trying to downplay Jinbe because of your insecurity. Sanji’s CoA isn’t even close to comparable. He’s not Jinbe. Deal with it.
 
#30
Lol no it's not. Maybe if she went with some hybrid strength and actually got any sort of tired from beating his ass. I mean we didn't even see her armament Haki either
Iron knuckles
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I'm fairly confident that WsW stands above Black Maria, expecially durability wise. I don't think this makes Sanji looks so well per se when normally a Sanji fan would hope he stands above Jinbe.
we're talking aboit someone strong enough to be a flying 6.. and they use iron knuckles (unknown if she was using haki) to beat the shit out sanji..



and sanji isn't even relapsing to those beatings funnily
 
#31
Iron knuckles
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we're talking aboit someone strong enough to be a flying 6.. and they use iron knuckles (unknown if she was using haki) to beat the shit out sanji..



and sanji isn't even relapsing to those beatings funnily
Clearly, Luffy learned the wrong lesson from Ragnarok. Iron is the way to go, I bet Maria will no sell those Mano spanks and beat Robin immediately.

...wait...
 
#34
A lot of people are hyping up Jinbe’s CoA because WsW broke his fingers from hitting Jinbe, but remember when Black Maria was punching Sanji and Sanji said that he can’t use CoA to defend himself or else his hardened body will hurt Black Maria’s knuckles? Why doesn’t anybody give Sanji credit for this? This is just as good as Jinbe’s feat
Exactly. Sanji did even better, since he also defeated all Black Maria's men while trying to not accidently hurt women or Black Maria itself.
Jinbe needed Poker's help against Who's who subordinates, but well he at least broke Who's Who fingers with his haki, which is something similar to that of what Sanj could have done to Black Maria.
I would say that Jinbe is a bit weaker than (no raid suit) Sanji.
 
#40
I swear every fucking time a character gets a W, there's a thread of Sanji fans crying how life is unfair for them
Get a grip
Nobody mentioned how Ussop and Nami tanked 4 or 5 Ulti's Haki infuse headbutts, but i see no Ussop and Nami fans crying about it, but Sanji fans have to be bitches
Like seriously, just how insecure Sanji fans can get
- Oh Zoro can block Hakai? So can Sanji
- Oh Jinbei can block Shigan Madara? So can Sanji
- Oh Zoro can scar Kaidou? So can Sanji
- Oh Yamato can stall Kaidou? So can Sanji
This.

Sanji FC trying to powerscale every feat to Sanji really hurts their case because it amplifies Sanji's apparent weakness instead.

And it's not just here on WG. Even on Youtube this is a similar case (KOL outright mentioning Sanji can tank Hakai better than Zoro was a WTF moment for me).

Sanji fans repeatedly doing this just make Sanji looks like a loser, tbh.
 
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