[FNZ] Salem of Lies Return of the Throne (Unofficial)

[Kiwipom]

We probably have found the Mastermind.

You seriously suggest we leave the confirmed scum for a lynch when we possibly can get rid of two scums before next Day?

yes. I would prefer lynching confirmed scum

All of the mafia games where we made plans and tried to go for 2 scums in one go instead of lynching what we have in front of us ended up flopping

 

[Flower]

I don't exactly disagree with Flower strategy here, if one scum is confirmed, this strategy to let Prince take care of it would keep us hunting for 2 nd scum. Else lazy town won't.

We can legit prevent a kill and possibly find another scum that way.

 

[Kiwipom]

When I originally said my target was not unseen, I decided to check again just to make sure I didn't read too fast by accident, since not being able to perform both my night abilities kinda unstabilized me, because he never said i couldn't after i wrote both. This is when I noticed that indeed it said that my target was unseen.

If someone edits their msg it would show edited right? There is no edit and I tbh I don't think he would edit the original message, he would just send a new one.

no, editted messages in pms don't show

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Ok on second thought, unless if Mel is mastermind playing tricks on us, Queen is most likely assassin.

I checked all of the possible ways Mel's results could of been tempered with and the only possibility is if there is a Scorned this game. But I don't think there is.

The only other way is if a BD transporter switched up the results, if that's the case, court wizard please step up and claim.

With those two possibilities out of the way, there is no other ways Mel's results are wrong.

I would suggest Court wizard to stay hidden, let Queen make her case. If we townies are making mistake with our judgement, he/she should only claim thn.

 

[Reborn]

We probably have found the Mastermind.

You seriously suggest we leave the confirmed scum for a lynch when we possibly can get rid of two scums before next Day?

You aren't making sense as townie this game..



You asked two players to reveal role to you in a convertible game via whispering


Then to defend your actions you asked prince to protect you as if your role is super important and prince exist to protect you and not interrogate and execute


Then just an hour before day end you started building tin foil case (which no one understood) against lanji, risking no Lynch scenario


Then today you immediately jumped on beta....then to queen then to lanji...but don't wanna lynch a sure shot scum but Someone else....


Then we came to know that you were aware of two sheriffs claim but on your own decided that it's possible without informing town....




Imo if it wasn't for being jailed claim of yours, I would be lynching you for this gameplay of yours....mark reborn words....


We are lynching sure shot scum....

We aren't leaving things for prince.


Any other sus then prince can interrogate....and execute...

 

[Melontonin]

Ok on second thought, unless if Mel is mastermind playing tricks on us, Queen is most likely assassin.

I checked all of the possible ways Mel's results could of been tempered with and the only possibility is if there is a Scorned this game. But I don't think there is.

The only other way is if a BD transporter switched up the results, if that's the case, court wizard please step up and claim.

With those two possibilities out of the way, there is no other ways Mel's results are wrong.

If I was mastermind and u lynch Queen and she was BD I'm gonna get shot at night or lynched the next day. That would be a huge risk.

 

[Flower]

You aren't making sense as townie this game..



You asked two players to reveal role to you in a convertible game via whispering


Then to defend your actions you asked prince to protect you as if your role is super important and prince exist to protect you and not interrogate and execute


Then just an hour before day end you started building tin foil case (which no one understood) against lanji, risking no Lynch scenario


Then today you immediately jumped on beta....then to queen then to lanji...but don't wanna lynch a sure shot scum but Someone else....


Then we came to know that you were aware of two sheriffs claim but on your own decided that it's possible without informing town....




Imo if it wasn't for being jailed claim of yours, I would be lynching you for this gameplay of yours....mark reborn words....


We are lynching sure shot scum....

We aren't leaving things for prince.


Any other sus then prince can interrogate....and execute...

Prince will be useless if he executes a Townie, so that's a much higher risk than a mislynch and an execution of a confirmed scum.

 

[Reborn]

Prince will be useless if he executes a Townie, so that's a much higher risk than a mislynch and an execution of a confirmed scum.

Aren't you sure of your reads???

 

[Kiwipom]

If I was mastermind and u lynch Queen and she was BD I'm gonna get shot at night or lynched the next day. That would be a huge risk.

Dw about being shot at night if you're mastermind, you're immune remember?
I thought you read your role well after the tmi on the Little Birdie

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In all seriousness @Melontonin I don't think you're lying. That's why I said it is more likely that Queen is Unseen

 

[Flower]

yes. I would prefer lynching confirmed scum

All of the mafia games where we made plans and tried to go for 2 scums in one go instead of lynching what we have in front of us ended up flopping

Executing confirmed scum at night is a common strategy in games like that. We can't risk Prince losing executions.

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Aren't you sure of your reads???

Are you sure about your reads? If so, what's stopping you from going after your scum read and following the jail Queen plan?

 

[Reborn]

Lynching queen will give reads on melon Sheriff claim.....

Can we be sure that there can be two sheriffs?

Maybe....but is there any gurantee?? We need concrete information.


I don't know why it's so difficult to understand.


Melon gave reads on queen.

Lynching queen will clear melon.

Town then can protect melon.



Our second sus can be jailed and can be interrogated..even if prince doesn't execute him then we can Lynch him tomorrow....

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

@NeutralWatcher did you make summary this Game like you usually do? I might need it.

 

[Kiwipom]

You aren't making sense as townie this game..



You asked two players to reveal role to you in a convertible game via whispering


Then to defend your actions you asked prince to protect you as if your role is super important and prince exist to protect you and not interrogate and execute


Then just an hour before day end you started building tin foil case (which no one understood) against lanji, risking no Lynch scenario


Then today you immediately jumped on beta....then to queen then to lanji...but don't wanna lynch a sure shot scum but Someone else....


Then we came to know that you were aware of two sheriffs claim but on your own decided that it's possible without informing town....




Imo if it wasn't for being jailed claim of yours, I would be lynching you for this gameplay of yours....mark reborn words....


We are lynching sure shot scum....

We aren't leaving things for prince.


Any other sus then prince can interrogate....and execute...

I agree with Reborn on this one, this is why I'm not sure if I want Flowa as our King.

Executing confirmed scum at night is a common strategy in games like that. We can't risk Prince losing executions.

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Are you sure about your reads? If so, what's stopping you from going after your scum read and following the jail Queen plan?

What happens if we're wrong about the lynch? Scum goes into the night with two people and something happens to our Prince like Sellsword beta interferring, we would be fucked.

 

[Flower]

Lynching queen will give reads on melon Sheriff claim.....

Can we be sure that there can be two sheriffs?

Maybe....but is there any gurantee?? We need concrete information.


I don't know why it's so difficult to understand.


Melon gave reads on queen.

Lynching queen will clear melon.

Town then can protect melon.



Our second sus can be jailed and can be interrogated..even if prince doesn't execute him then we can Lynch him tomorrow....

We have Neutral Killers, too, you know...

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I agree with Reborn on this one, this is why I'm not sure if I want Flowa as our King.


What happens if we're wrong about the lynch? Scum goes into the night with two people and something happens to our Prince like Sellsword beta interferring, we would be fucked.

Beta doesn't know who the Prince is, so...

 

[Reborn]

We have Neutral Killers, too, you know...

I know that.

And, that's what scum hunting for 24 hours will result into...

Catching Scums...

And, not being hasty on reaching to conclusions

 

[Flower]

I know that.

And, that's what scum hunting for 24 hours will result into...

Catching Scums...

And, not being hasty on reaching to conclusions

We have confirmed scum Beta...
Cobra's target is likely scum as well.
We have confirmed scum Queen.
Lanji is very suspicious.


We have enough scums to lynch so that we can leave Queen to Prince...

 

[Finalbeta]

@Finalbeta you are playing like sus here. Al claimed he was physician yet you blocked him ?

I had no insight on whether or not Physician would even feature as a unique role, I actually still don't know.

However he was my second top sus and I expected Flower to be jailed for this night.

Moreover, no advantage playing like I did would have conferred me had I been Sellsword.

 

[Melontonin]

I second Lanji acting oddly, he was so suspicious to me yesterday I tried to Surveillance on him. I only have 3 of those... I was THAT confident he was scum.

But drago only replied to my Expert Navigation action, which turned out success anyway.

 

[Reborn]

We have confirmed scum Beta...
Cobra's target is likely scum as well.
We have confirmed scum Queen.
Lanji is very suspicious.


We have enough scums to lynch so that we can leave Queen to Prince...

And, what if I suggest something much better and way more concrete than what you suggested???


Will you follow it??

Because trust me your plan will backfire....

 

[NeutralWatcher]

@NeutralWatcher did you make summary this Game like you usually do? I might need it.

D1:

If I remember Kiwipom sus Light. Al Sama voted Kiwipom. Kiwipom voted Al Sama in return since Al Sama sus Kiwipom for tin foil evidence. Finalbeta also voted Al Sama followed by Queen, Seraphoenix and Fujishiro IIRC.

I townclear Cobra since he said not to trust anyone. I became a sus of some players. Lanji, Fujishiro, Fallen Prince, Melontonin since I town cleared CObra quickly.

There was also a feud between Lanji and Fallen Prince. Reborn said Krogothwolf was being diplomatic. Fallen Prince disagreed. Lanji disagreed with Fallen Prince and therefore there was a feud between them about Krogothwolf play.

Flower sus Finalbeta and Finalbeta sus Flower's back. Flower claimed Princess in return. Krogothwolf was still townie and gave his reads I forgot which page.

D2:

Flower was jailed. Finalbeta claimed to roleblock Flower, Melontonin claimed to target Flower and Al Sama claimed to protect Flower. Melontonin knew about Little Bird ability. Mastermind had to activate that ability before players whisper their roles. otherwise if Mastermind activates Little Bird ability after players whisper to someone then Little Bird ability would be useless. So some players sus her including me and she claimed Sheriff.

There was also players who sus Zara for the lack of contribution yesterday like Lanji and Zara claimed Hunter.I think Lanji also had feud with Melontonin too. Melontonin and Seraphoenix whispered to Flower. There was also a feud between Queen and Melontonin too.

Reborn also gave his reads and narrowed down 5 possible scums: Me, Marimo, Krogotholf, Fallen Prince and Lanji. I voted Krogothwolf and I think you know why since you liked my post about sus him. Followed by Seraphoenix (Sheriff) then Queen. And then Flower built a case to lynch Lanji so there was a feud between Flower and Lanji too.

Flower voted Krogothwolf later. Reborn voted Marimo and Lanji followed it. Reborn voted Krogothwolf back since Jrogothwolf hd more votes and Lnji did too. I think Reborn said he was fine wirh lynching either Krogothwolf or Msrimo. Fallen Prince then voted Krogothwolf and last Light used his 2 voted power ability to vote Krogothwolf.

Al Sama came later and voted Marimo and asked others to do the same.