[FNZ] Role Madness Round 14: Code Geass - The Mafia Rebellion

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Rhealuna

do you think the timestop was why drago was lynched and not a redirect ?@Rhea
This is what I believe from now :
1. Vote Cin First Because he stands out the most with his essays. And Scum take it as a decoy and put him as a target.
2. Other Scum Will Try to vote with the below Cin was, in this case Marimo
3. Vote Locked with the Cin leading, follow with Marimo Drago and Tris
4. Cin votes is not 3
5. Drago votes is not 2
6. Time stop is real

This is what I doubt and still need help looking further :
One and Two specific person that lead to Marimo vote and also define about Marimo this... Marimo that... after Time Stop is... Scum or even worse is Scum Leader.
 
This is what I believe from now :
1. Vote Cin First Because he stands out the most with his essays. And Scum take it as a decoy and put him as a target.
2. Other Scum Will Try to vote with the below Cin was, in this case Marimo
3. Vote Locked with the Cin leading, follow with Marimo Drago and Tris
4. Cin votes is not 3
5. Drago votes is not 2
6. Time stop is real

This is what I doubt and still need help looking further :
One and Two specific person that lead to Marimo vote and also define about Marimo this... Marimo that... after Time Stop is... Scum or even worse is Scum Leader.
drago started the case on marimo however
light and jdb made better cases.
if cin is leading he should have been lynched if the time stop was real. something funny is def going on. However rhea for this dp ,
I am still firmly of the opinion natalija has to go before anyone else.
 
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Rhealuna

drago started the case on marimo however
Before time stop or after time stop?

if cin is leading he should have been lynched if the time stop was real.
Like I said before

4. Cin votes is not 3
5. Drago votes is not 2
6. Time stop is real
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However rhea for this dp ,
I am still firmly of the opinion natalija has to go before anyone else.
Okay.
 
Before time stop and after time stop?



Like I said before


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Okay.
not sure
let me check
Marimo is not town. Anybody agree or disagree?
they were all before the timestop
but a lot of folks voted marimo after
@Dragomir So here’s what I found - Marimo comes in jovial like the rest of us, experiences some confusion on how the roles are picked after surmising that new players can’t be scum (not damning for him by itself), fends off a minimal sus from Fuji based on the same, complains about the big news like the rest of us (but still goes along with it), then asks what’s going on after only a dozen or so pages before dipping completely.

I think the RNG thing is benign enough, I didn’t really think about that my first few games. His explanation to Fuji, while anything but comprehensive, wasn’t so bad that it raised my eyebrows. What I do find interesting is that he wants to rail against the big news, but still includes it in every post.

We can probably assume without much trouble that Flower did that solely to fuck with us and it’s not a hard and fast rule, but some are doing it to hedge their bets against being modkilled so early on. Again, by itself, not indicative of much...but wouldn’t scum have the most to lose by not following the rules and thinning their ranks right off the bat?Marimo doesn’t have the luxury on going along with it because he doesn’t understand the meaning behind it like wordy/other newbies, nor is he following along with any old passive like Neutral normally does. I’m not entirely sold on your theory yet, but I’m coming around. He’ll need to do something soon to disprove us if he can.

Why do I feel like you’re just quoting my read back at me? I know it’s only halfway through D1, but this just tells me what I thought from earlier.
These are all of Marimo's posts.
The staring post gives me a non Marimo vibe. It's like he's trying to hard to make it known that he is town with the eradicate scum part. Feels a bit over the top, and non genuine. He wanted to make an entrance that would give off a townie vibe so that he could callback on it and assure that he would be viewed as town.



Then he moves on to discussing the game mechanics. Alright, first time bastard game and early on talks. But the part that stuck out to me was the newbies not being mafia just because they are new. A bit too forced. I was scum in my first game, and I am sure plenty of others here have been too. It's possible that one of the first timers is Marimo's mate and he wanted to clear the suspicion off them with a comment like that.


Then this part about explaining that he thought that new players wouldn't be mafia is also weird, since in Marimo's first game and my first game, the Kakegurui one, I was mafia, and as I said it was my first real game, not counting the turbo ones. So Marimo has already encountered first time players as mafia but he seemed to be perplexed at that notion now. Like I said, it's highly possible that he is scum and one of his mates is a first time player.



The 4 subsequent posts are mostly fluff, expressing his gratitude which to an extent is fine since the post he was responding to when saying thanks or welcome were posts for that. The nope I am town post was to Fuji who questioned him about what I stated above, that is the chance of one of the newbies being his scum mate. That's a fact post I guess was dedicated to JDB's joke lynch of Bogard post.









In the next batch of posts he talks about the this is big news thing. Ostensibly protesting against it or expressing his annoyance with it. As well as giving an explanation to Wordy, I believe, on why people are dissatisfied with it.



Here he's wondering about what's going on and what we have, seemingly testing the room to see what's going on and at which direction this could go with a push.


And here again explaining some stuff about the emote.


Continuing from the above seemingly testing the room post, unfortunately for him the answer he receives is that Beta is susing Drago, which let's be real, hinging on Beta's sus and reasons for susing someone is an unwise decision to put it softly, especially if one is scum.



To summarize.
> Opening post feels too forced and out of place, trying to get town cred early without doing much.
> Tries to steer away sus from newbies, ostensibly due to the fact that he might be scum and his mates one of the first time players
> When asked why says he thought newbies wouldn't be mafia, when in the first game both of us played, I was scum and it was my first time, hence he's acquainted with that concept.
> The rest of his posts are mostly fluff, with some explanations about the big news emote, and that one post that feels like testing the waters.
> As mentioned above, that post does not bode well for him since FB is the one susing Drago at the time, and as previously stated backing on FB's suses is not a good idea.


For now I am going to vote for him.

Vote lynch @Marimo_420 @Flower @krogothwolf
 

[USER=397]@Seraphoenix
You're not helping here and voting popular lynch Marimo.
So what?
Marimo is a popular vote for good reason. Should I not vote him? :seriously: If so by all means give me good reasons:choppawhat:
Agree. Let's wait on some players to chime in.
All my inactives, c'mere.

2. @Tris
3. @Queen
4. @Tobi
5. @Seraphoenix
6. @Marimo_420
7. @Ali
11. @silverfire
14. @RedGloverKing
15. @Seth
18. @Rhea
21. @Gambit - (didn't Gambit get replaced by someone?)
I still have to read up. Gonna read the last 50 pages maybe and write off the rest.

Currently I think Marimo is a better lynch than Nat. The ability used to take the lynch off someone is normally a one shot which leads me to believe he has a powerful role. People trying to hint that he is unlynchable based on one lynch failing, is a bit sus as it would result him him not getting lynched. Then we would have to depend on a vig who might get redirected depending on scum abilities.

As for Nat sensei, Lanji seems pretty sure. He even said that it was based on info he received. So he is probably town, though there is a possibility that his result was messed with. It would be suboptimal for a scum to put themselves out there so early and claim someone is scum. Though now that I think about it, it does if there are two scum teams like some are suggesting here:zorothink:

On that note, it seems that a lot of info lies in this Light, Melo, Lanji vs Nat, Noctis grouping that I see forming.
 
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Noctis

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Well Nat sure is useful in this case for me or even useless since the more she sus Melon the less votes melon gets due to lanji lol
 
It's

Light and Melon vs Noctis.
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Inb4 @Seraphoenix what info we will get from Nat flip. I am curious about your answer to this or even from mel Lynch
Nat seems to think that Light and Melo are scum. She thinks Lanji is town. She has a very good scum radar as town, so if she flips town then likely Light and Melo should be looked into.

If she flips scum, then Lanji looks good. Which is problematic if there are indeed two scum teams and he is in one of them.
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Someone tell me why Nat is more important to lynch than the guy who had an entire lynch redirected from him. Why can't she be vigged?
 
I think 'cause some believe he can again change the Lynch so it's better to kill him during night rather than lynch him
Why do they believe that? What role can avoid lynches multiple times?:seriously: It was an ability, as Dragomir was third in votes iirc. So it was a redirect of the lynch. Doubtful that that ability would be anything but a oneshot. It would be unbalanced otherwise.

What if the plan to get him killed at night just results in a redirect? It's far safer to lynch him as the lynch redirect is likely a oneshot. Whereas mafia likely still has the ability to nullify a kill by either redirecting or making someone bulletproof imo.
 
am not town reading melon yet
nat is just more of a guarantee. since we can only lynch one scum at a time
its better nat goes this dp.
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Nat seems to think that Light and Melo are scum. She thinks Lanji is town. She has a very good scum radar as town, so if she flips town then likely Light and Melo should be looked into.

If she flips scum, then Lanji looks good. Which is problematic if there are indeed two scum teams and he is in one of them.
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Someone tell me why Nat is more important to lynch than the guy who had an entire lynch redirected from him. Why can't she be vigged?
I cant say more than that.
you are going to have to trust me.
if not act on your whim.
 
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Noctis

Why do they believe that? What role can avoid lynches multiple times?:seriously: It was an ability, as Dragomir was third in votes iirc. So it was a redirect of the lynch. Doubtful that that ability would be anything but a oneshot. It would be unbalanced otherwise.

What if the plan to get him killed at night just results in a redirect? It's far safer to lynch him as the lynch redirect is likely a oneshot. Whereas mafia likely still has the ability to nullify a kill by either redirecting or making someone bulletproof imo.
I am fine either way to be honest as long as we Lynch either Melon, Nat and Marimo this phase and from Lanji push it does seem that he has really strong sus on her or a very good reason so I would like to trust him in this as well
 
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