General & Others Ruination of a character - Sanji, The Predator, The Gag and the Rock Lee of One Piece

[Finalbeta]

Sanji a supernova?

Then the actual supernova are most likely super-luminous supernova.

 

[Adam 🍎]

He literally give up his dream for luffy.
He also threatened to leave the crew just if ussop didnt apologise to luffy

I literally said that. I literally said he was a man for himself which was evident in Water 7 but post TS he became a guard dog that was willing to give up his dream for his master

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Like you literally just proved my point

 

[HA001]

I literally said that. I literally said he was a man for himself which was evident in Water 7 but post TS he became a guard dog that was willing to give up his dream for his master

? Threatening to leave the crew if ussop doesnt apologise to luffy isnt about himself. Its about the crew giving luffys respect as captain. In jaya he took a beating from bellamy just because luffy told him to.

 

[Indigo]

Zoro was never a guard dog, he was always a man for himself that respected Luffy and his position as a captain and did his best to do right by it which was evident during Water 7 when Sanji smashed Luffy in the face and Zoro didn't react at all. Post TS Zoro is me slash me a beast. No depth to it , no creativity. Just a guy that has his 3 swords and will cut shit.

Have you forgotten Zoro's moment of character development? the fight against Kuma and then Zoro asking Mihawk to train him?

That's Zoro accepting that he wants Luffy to accomplish his goal of being Pirate King more than he wants to become the WSS. He started to care for Luffy and his crew, he has their safety above his own ambitions. Mihawk even congratulates Zoro for that, because he says now that Zoro has something to fight besides himself, he can trully become strong. So no, Zoro becoming a Guard Dog isn't regression or a bad thing, it his development and what he wants to become. The right hand man of the Pirate King first, then WSS.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Please ping me for the Zoro thread I wanna see how that goes down

 

[trav]

So basically 95% of readers are wrong and 5% of you are right. Got it

only about 5% score above 125IQ.
stay rodent

 

[Chrono]

uhm, no? big no! noest no!

it was clear from the very beginning that Zoro and Luffy stand out.

there never was a monster trio and there never will be.

The term maybe a fan translation. But Luffy/Zoro/Sanji were known as the strongest of the SHs. Theyre always put together.

And Sanji had just as many moments to shine with Luffy as Zoro did.

 

[HA001]

only about 5% score above 125IQ.
stay rodent

I bet 95 percent said zoro wouldnt fight kaido.

 

[Marimo_420]

Imagine retards saying Worst Gen = not being a vinsmoke.

Lmao you lot been smoking something good.

 

[Adam 🍎]

? Threatening to leave the crew if ussop doesnt apologise to luffy isnt about himself. Its about the crew giving luffys respect as captain. In jaya he took a beating from bellamy just because luffy told him to.

When Sanji smacked Luffy in the face Zoro understood why Sanji did it and approved it. When he said he will leave it is because he wasn't gonna put up with the disrespect the crew has for Luffy. Zoro was willing to walk out on moment notice if things werent correct. That is by definition being a man for himself just as he got beaten by Bellamy because he believed his ideas and goals are correct and fighting bellamy would only prove his point

Post TS Zoro literally was ready to abandon his goal for Luffy and Post TS he is basically - Zoro go slash that - good boy

 

[Doggo]

Have you forgotten Zoro's moment of character development? the fight against Kuma and then Zoro asking Mihawk to train him?

That's Zoro accepting that he wants Luffy to accomplish his goal of being Pirate King more than he wants to become the WSS. He started to care for Luffy and his crew, he has their safety above his own ambitions. Mihawk even congratulates Zoro for that, because he says now that Zoro has something to fight besides himself, he can trully become strong. So no, Zoro becoming a Guard Dog isn't regression or a bad thing, it his development and what he wants to become. The right hand man of the Pirate King first, then WSS.

Yeah.....But considering Zoro is still aiming to be the WSS, him throwing away his pride to ask Mihawk for training kinda seems pointless.
Dude got the training without sacrificing anything for it. He is gonna be the WSS just like he always were supposed to.
Unless Oda decides to kill him off in order to protect Luffy, which I dont see happening. Or else we will have "nothing happened 2.0: Electric Bogaloo".

 

[Adam 🍎]

Please ping me for the Zoro thread I wanna see how that goes down

Yea i will kinda need moderation on that

 

[Indigo]

When Sanji smacked Luffy in the face Zoro understood why Sanji did it and approved it. When he said he will leave it is because he wasn't gonna put up with the disrespect the crew has for Luffy. Zoro was willing to walk out on moment notice if things werent correct. That is by definition being a man for himself just as he got beaten by Bellamy because he believed his ideas and goals are correct and fighting bellamy would only prove his point

Post TS Zoro literally was ready to abandon his goal for Luffy and Post TS he is basically - Zoro go slash that - good boy

When did Zoro smacked Luffy on the face and Zoro understood?

Zoro doesn't even know the fight happened in Whole Cake yet. Are you talking about another moment?

 

[HA001]

When Sanji smacked Luffy in the face Zoro understood why Sanji did it and approved it. When he said he will leave it is because he wasn't gonna put up with the disrespect the crew has for Luffy. Zoro was willing to walk out on moment notice if things werent correct. That is by definition being a man for himself just as he got beaten by Bellamy because he believed his ideas and goals are correct and fighting bellamy would only prove his point

Post TS Zoro literally was ready to abandon his goal for Luffy and Post TS he is basically - Zoro go slash that - good boy

Pre skip.
Zoro cut the train
Ok
Your points are nonsense.
The dynamic between luffy and zoro changed early on in the story
Becoming loyal to luffy is not a regression in his character. Its the opposite.

 

[Adam 🍎]

When did Zoro smacekd Luffy and the face and Zoro understood?

Zoro doesn't even know the fight happened in Whole Cake yet. Are you talking about another moment?

When Luffy said Usopp should leave the crew in Water 7 Sanji smacked Luffy in the face before could finish the sentence. Zoro didn't budge at all because he understood why Sanji did it and it was necessary.

 

[Doggo]

only about 5% score above 125IQ.
stay rodent

I'm starting to think this guy is actually serious.
Good Lord.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Pre skip.
Zoro cut the train
Ok
Your points are nonsense.
The dynamic between luffy and zoro changed early on in the story
Becoming loyal to luffy is not a regression in his character. Its the opposite.

Being loyal is one thing
Being a tool to cut shit and nothing else is another

That is why Zoro in my opinion regressed a lot. He lost his soul as a character which he had. That hard shell that would tell the crew to fix their shit or he will walk out. We had a glimps of that in Punk Hazard and Zou and then it fades away like it never happened since both times his words fell on deaf ears and he did nothing about it

 

[Doggo]

I like how this is a thread to talk specifically about Sanji, and, once again, it goes back to Zoro.
Can't wait for the Sanji's discussion on the Zoro thread. LMAO.

 

[Kishido]

Nami literally called Luffy, Zoro and Sanji monster trio lmao. @Kishido have the panel.

I stopped doing this. Let people live or die stupid or learn it the hard way

 

[HA001]

I like how this is a thread to talk specifically about Sanji, and, once again, it goes back to Zoro.
Can't wait for the Sanji's discussion on the Zoro thread. LMAO.

Thats cause all you lot accepted it instantly and lied down like dogs.