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Loras loses to or is on the same level as someone like Jorah Mormont
Nah, Loras is like a young/teen Jaime in terms of prowess.
Martin: Well, LeBron James is the greatest active basketball player I suppose so the parallel in Westeros would be who is the greatest active swordsman. You can make a case for Jamie Lannister. You can make a case for The Hound or his brother Ser Gregor [Clegane] or Sir Loras [Tyrell], the Knight of Flowers. These are all first class Knights. Or even Ser Barristan The Bold [Sir Barristan Selmy]. These are all guys who are top at their own particular sport, which is swordsmanship and jousting, and all of the combat skills that attend knighthood.
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^Martin considered him to be a top-level knight.
He was a finalist in Renly's melee, and was winning against Brienne (even disarming her) before she used an unorthodox tactic and tackled him, and afterwards proceeded to wipe out two of Renly's kingsguard when he got mad at his death.
 
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Nah, Loras is like a young/teen Jaime in terms of prowess.

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^Martin considered him to be a top-level knight.
He was a finalist in Renly's melee, and was winning against Brienne (even disarming her) before she used an unorthodox tactic and tackled him, and afterwards proceeded to wipe out two of Renly's kingsguard when he got mad at his death.
Yeah Loras is great. If he was just some joust knight I would understand the argument, heck Jorah Mormont once defeated Jaime in a joust. But both in the books and outside he is praised as a great warrior. And you are right, Brienne was getting her ass beat by him in that instance, before she won by dragging him into the mud.

And if you get to Garlan, Loras says that he is the better sword. Garlan trains by taking on three or four swordsmen at the same time, and leads the vanguard at the battle of the Blackwater slaying one of Renly's ex Kingsguard. Loras is more famous than him as Garlan doesn't care about that stuff.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

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Alright guys just kidding, we need to do Winners Semis for my bracket app to complete the losers bracket lmfao so here we go!!

Winners Semi-Finals, Round 1

The Blackfyre Behemoths

Daemon Blackfyre, “The Black Dragon”


Maelys Blackfyre, “Maelys the Monstrous”


VERSUS

The Northern Nutjobs

Cregan Stark


Greatjon Umber


WHO WINS AND WHY???

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Greatjon Is not that strong in this scenario.
Does Meleys Blackfyre have any more of a shot of defeating Greatjon than the other way around?

Greatjon is a 7 foot monster who carries the longest sword Bran has ever seen, throws men in armor like throwing Rickon, is extremely fierce in battle and leads Robb's vanguard. At the Red Wedding he is completely drunk (which is what they hoped for) and yet he grabs sword of a man, kills one, bites off half a hear of another and eight men are needed to restrain him.
 
Does Meleys Blackfyre have any more of a shot of defeating Greatjon than the other way around?

Greatjon is a 7 foot monster who carries the longest sword Bran has ever seen, throws men in armor like throwing Rickon, is extremely fierce in battle and leads Robb's vanguard. At the Red Wedding he is completely drunk (which is what they hoped for) and yet he grabs sword of a man, kills one, bites off half a hear of another and eight men are needed to restrain him.
You and me seem to be in the minority that puts the Greatjon above Maelys.
Maelys is just a mindless brute. The Greatjon, never described to be a poet mind you, at least doesn't suffer from a mental handicap like Maelys.
Now, Maelys did one-punch a horse to the death.
Thankfully the Greatjon doesn't share his anatomy nor IQ with a horse so he takes this duel.

And Cregan beats Shaenks Redfyre.
 
Cregan Stark is neck and neck with the greatest knight of his era so this dude is top of kingsguard tier and rivals the like of Jaime and Barristan.
I think Daemon is up there too and his blade might give him the edge but it's also possible that Cregan bullies him.
 
Cregan Stark is neck and neck with the greatest knight of his era so this dude is top of kingsguard tier and rivals the like of Jaime and Barristan.
I think Daemon is up there too and his blade might give him the edge but it's also possible that Cregan bullies him.
Cregan outauras him:BigW:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I think Daemon is up there too and his blade might give him the edge but it's also possible that Cregan bullies him.


Cregan has as much of a shot at bullying Daemon Blackfyre as Bananji has at bullying Kanmei. Lol

Maelys is just a mindless brute.
I’m going to quote from the wiki:

In 258 AC, Maelys gathered with eight other outlaws, exiles and sellsword captains beneath the Tree of Crowns in the Disputed Lands in Essos. There, they formed an alliance called the Band of Nine, promising to aid each other in carving out a kingdom for each member. The Band of Nine pledged to help Maelys in conquering the Seven Kingdoms.[6] While it was generally believed that the Band of Nine would founder in Essos,[6][1] they managed to sack and take Tyrosh, and seize the Stepstones, which made them a real threat to Westeros. Maelys declared himself to be King Maelys I Blackfyre.[1]

Now I’m going to ask you this:

Aside from swearing subservience to Robb from a wolf biting his fingers off, what evidence do we have that Greatjon even has a brain?

“Not a poet” you say lmfao. Maelys formed the Ninepenny King alliance while Greatjon swore his subservience to a kid with a Wolf.

At the Red Wedding he is completely drunk (which is what they hoped for) and yet he grabs sword of a man, kills one, bites off half a hear of another and eight men are needed to restrain him.
Now we have to powerscale killing a horse with a punch and tearing a man’s head off to biting a guys ear off lmfao.
 
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