Questions & Mysteries Ryuma is not originally from Wano?!?

[Bisoromi Bear]

This is Ryuma's grave isn't it? Did I miss something? He was born in west blue?

 

[Kumathegoat]

he might have not been born in Wano, but surely lived there

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

It's the most likely assumption, as he was buried in Ringo, but it's weird to see Ryuma being described that way... he's probably the most revered hero of Wano, not just "a foreigner hero born in the West Blue and buried in Ringo". It can be someone else.

 

[HA001]

It's the zombie that had zoros shadow not ryuma

 

[Garp the Fist]

I think it’s someone else.

It could be a way to tie in Monsters obviously not taking place on Wano (clothes, names, architecture are nothing like Wano).

But it would open up a lot of weird things, like Ryuma then killing two seperate dragons (one over Wano, one in Monsters) and some strange Shimotsuki family history (did Ryuma marry into them? Was there another branch that had left Wano previously and went back? Did they change their name?)

 

[kekaro]

Is this really his grave?
Looks like dogshit and busted, would be mad funny if that how they keep care of the le gods grave

 

[HerreraIsBack]

It makes sense. It seems that Wano always needed foreign heros to protect itself.

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Is this really his grave?
Looks like dogshit and busted, would be mad funny if that how they keep care of the le gods grave

Moria robbed Ryuma's body and Shusui, so that would explain the grave's poor state... plus the Kaido years, they probably didn't have the time/resources to rebuild it, as most of Wano was battling for survival.

 

[Juanpiz]

It makes sense. It seems that Wano always needed foreign heros to protect itself.

Thats why Kaido came

 

[Roo]

I think it’s another character, maybe Fujitora faked his death or maybe Shiki died in Wano

 

[Yoho]

If it was Ryuma's grave I think Oda would just say it's Ryuma's grave he wouldn't leave it ambiguous like this

Also the way Ulti is running to the grade makes me think she is familiar with this person.

No one runs to a grave like that unless you know the person buried their

My immediate guess was Hanafuda, but would someone associated with Kaido and a warlord of the sea have not just a grave but a shrine on Wano?

Likely not

So this person

Is Seemingly known by Ulti
Was born in west Blue
Raised by Samurai
And considered a Hero

Odds of it being ryuma is low, im sure oda would of just came out and said it also im pretty sure in the Ryuma one shot "Monsters" it was specifically stated he was born in Wano

🤔 Could it Be Ulti and Page Ones Mom?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If it was Ryuma's grave I think Oda would just say it's Ryuma's grave he wouldn't leave it ambiguous like this

Or Oda is doing it intentionally and is about to build some ancient connection between Wano and the outside world. Would tie in well with the theme of this chapter being open borders & building alliances through trade and negotiations

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Thats why Kaido came

That's what Yamato mother said lol

 

[Grotesque]

Is this really his grave?
Looks like dogshit and busted, would be mad funny if that how they keep care of the le gods grave

To be fair Kaido was destroying everything in Wano for like 20 years to feed his war efforts. All of the Ringo shrines post-Oden death look run down and tattered in Kawamatsu's flashback.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

If it was Ryuma's grave I think Oda would just say it's Ryuma's grave he wouldn't leave it ambiguous like this

This.

Different character, has to be.

 

[Yoho]

Or Oda is doing it intentionally and is about to build some ancient connection between Wano and the outside world. Would tie in well with the theme of this chapter being open borders & building alliances through trade and negotiations

We already know Ryuma traveled outside of Wano Via the Monsters one shot, and as far as theme of opening borders that was one of the major themes of wano, but Momonosuke decided Wano wasn't ready for that yet. So Oda can still build that connction via Ryuma because Ryuma left wano before.

 

[Wizak08]

It could be the Zoro shadow guy in Thriller Bark, he was from west blue or Fujitora or maybe even Shiki.

 

[HA001]

It's this guy

 

[Monkey D Theories]

It's this guy

Why does Zoro’s zombie have a Hitler mustache?

bro really isn’t beating the racism allegations

 

[D. Plant]

There are a bunch of other non samurai sword there on the graves, those could be his acquaintance. I don't think only Ryuma switches to samurai sword and the rest doesn't? Also they were born with the blade, maybe some parts of history before Ryuma?