Sandaime Raikage vs Zoro (DR)

#21
If you're looking at the Kyuubi that Naruto had fighting against Obito and his Six Paths, remember it's only half the Kyuubi's power.
But wasn't it 50% Kurama with that special chakra cloak? Hence I think this Kurama, even in 50%, should be stronger than 100% Kurama which attacked Konohagakure several years ago.

Also, IIRC Naruto and Minato fused their chakra with each other in which they technically had 100% of Kurama's chakra - and now add sen chakra which should make Kurama even more powerful.

Edit: And no, I meant the Kurama which fought against Sasuke at the end.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#22
But wasn't it 50% Kurama with that special chakra cloak? Hence I think this Kurama, even in 50%, should be stronger than 100% Kurama which attacked Konohagakure several years ago.

Also, IIRC Naruto and Minato fused their chakra with each other in which they technically had 100% of Kurama's chakra - and now add sen chakra which should make Kurama even more powerful.
They shared chakra together in the war, but until Naruto became the Jinchuuriki of the Yin half, he never had its actual power at his beck and call. While a Jinchuuriki using the power of a Bijuu > a bijuu itself, there's also a massive discrepancy between 100% Kurama and the Kyuubi we saw.



Top panel, you can see the Kyuubi's current hand size compared to its imprint Pre-Yin seal. And since it's an embodiment of chakra, everything about it is lessened when stripped away.

I'd say;

100% Kyuubi Jinchuuriki > Senjutsu Bijuu Mode Naruto >= 100% Kyuubi > Bijuu Mode Naruto > 50% Kyuubi.
 
#23
They shared chakra together in the war, but until Naruto became the Jinchuuriki of the Yin half, he never had its actual power at his beck and call. While a Jinchuuriki using the power of a Bijuu > a bijuu itself, there's also a massive discrepancy between 100% Kurama and the Kyuubi we saw.



Top panel, you can see the Kyuubi's current hand size compared to its imprint Pre-Yin seal. And since it's an embodiment of chakra, everything about it is lessened when stripped away.

I'd say;

100% Kyuubi Jinchuuriki > Senjutsu Bijuu Mode Naruto >= 100% Kyuubi > Bijuu Mode Naruto > 50% Kyuubi.
And what do you think about Sot6p Kurama which fought against Sasuke's PS at the end?
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#24
And what do you think about Sot6p Kurama which fought against Sasuke's PS at the end?
It's difficult to scale, because that's an amalgamation of half the Kyuubi, portions of every other Bijuu's power and then the massive boost that it both the world's (?) senjutsu and the Sage's chakra boost.

I think that version of Naruto wipes OP off the map without breaking a sweat. I don't know if the Kyuubi got an individual boost, I've always interepted it as all those different powers being distinct and mixing with Naruto, instead of them mixing together wholly.
 
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Haoshoku

#25
Iirc, the third Raikage was able to hang with this version of Naruto:

And at this point, Naruto can casually bust entire mountain ranges with ease. The third Raikage was also portrayed as an equal of the 8 tails, whom is also comparable to Kyuubi to some degree. I think thats beyond Dressrosa Zoro, who took out a mountain sized Pica with his strongest attack in base.
 
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Jo_Ndule

#28
How the hell do people think zoto can beat hokages?
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Lol dude do you even know how big a mountain really is? Mountains >>>> Pica
Nah they think golem pica is bigger or big as mountains

Also zoro needed his best attacks to cut the golem, he was huffing, popped veins after doing that
 
#30
Lol dude do you even know how big a mountain really is? Mountains >>>> Pica


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You do realise that Sandaime had a draw against the Hachibi with casual mountain level Bijuu Damas? And Hachibi's feats shit on Zoro's.
Lel, don't see what's outstanding about that. Akatsukis have beaten Bijus, and so did the Fourth Kazekage.

There is also a difference between fighting a mindless beast who gets cut by shurikens and fighting someone who is considerably faster and much stronger aka Zoro.
 
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Lel, don't see what's outstanding about that. Akatsukis have beaten Bijus, and so did the Fourth Kazekage.

There is also a difference between fighting a mindless beast who gets cut by shurikens and fighting someone who is considerably faster and much stronger aka Zoro.
Lol good job at taking an obviously way out of proportion anime frame
 
#34
Lol the golem is clearly half the size of the one in the previous photo
You clearly don't understand what camera angles are and how they affect perspective. The anime depiction is taken from a wide shot, hence why Pica appears larger in the anime pic than in the manga version, where the image is drawn from a close up view making him look smaller. Literally in both depictions he makes a city look like grass. Learn what camera angles are and how they work before running your mouth and making a fool of yourself.

National Geographic and UN both state a minimum height of a mountain starts at 300 meters. Pica's Golem makes 5-story buildings look like grass by comparison, so scaling from that he would be well over 1000 meters. I'm not sure how you arrived to the conclusion Pica is not mountain-sized, but then again, you're ignorant in camera perspective.
 
#35
You clearly don't understand what camera angles are and how they affect perspective. The anime depiction is taken from a wide shot, hence why Pica appears larger in the anime pic than in the manga version, where the image is drawn from a close up view making him look smaller. Literally in both depictions he makes a city look like grass. Learn what camera angles are and how they work before running your mouth and making a fool of yourself.

National Geographic and UN both state a minimum height of a mountain starts at 300 meters. Pica's Golem makes 5-story buildings look like grass by comparison, so scaling from that he would be well over 1000 meters. I'm not sure how you arrived to the conclusion Pica is not mountain-sized, but then again, you're ignorant in camera perspective.
This makes no sense. The anime camera angle also would have made the Flower Hill look bigger too since it’s right behind Pica. The problem for Pica is that there’s two other dimensions, not just height. If we go by height, he’s arguably small mountain level, but the problem is that both the width and depth for an average mountain are 32,000 meters. The width and depth for Pica are both clearly much, much smaller than this, especially at the waist, which is the thinnest part of the golem and the spot that Zoro cut. It would require a shit ton more force to cut an actual mountain
 
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