I'm hoping for it. The current circumstances could allow allow it with Lucci still up and trying to accomplish his mission of assassinating Vegapunk. I agree Lucci would probably try and capture Robin too if the opportunity presented itself so Sanji protecting her to pay her back for the Black Maria situation would be fitting.
Lucci and Sanji probably aren't too far apart in strength and seeing Sanji having an extended 1v1 to completion against one of the most notable martial artists around would be nice, plus this would allow us to see the extent of Lucci's recovery and abilities.
Overall, I'm all for it. Sanji vs S-Shark would also be nice but I'd prefer Lucci.
Lucci got negged? He is still standing and commanding the Seraphim by the end of the chapter. That means G5 had to do a lot worse to put him down for good.
You Lucci fanboys are really something else, lol. If he needs a mode to 3 shot a much inferior opponent, basically trolling this dude, how are less powerful gears somehow not reliable against this dude? One Kong Gun and Lucci would piss blood lmao.
One more attack and Lucci would be koed. Thankfully, plot rescued him. When the villain has plotarmor instead of the MC.
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You Lucci fanboys are really something else, lol. If he needs a mode to 3 shot a much inferior opponent, basically trolling this dude, how are less powerful gears somehow not reliable against this dude? One Kong Gun and Lucci would piss blood lmao.
Huh? How are they far stronger than a Kong Gun? A simple Kong Gun packs so much power, it would send Lucci flying across the island.
G5 is generally stronger but not all moves are automatically above G4. I mean, G4 Snake Man is also generally stronger than G3 yet some lower end moves are not necessarily G3 level, let alone above it.
We're talking about optimizing damage, not what pushes Lucci back further. Those attacks that rubberize opponents could probably be more efficient in transferring all of the force from Luffy's attacks into the opponent's body.
Point is even if Kong Gun is stronger, the energy is dissipated/wasted whereas those rubberized punches could be optimized to transfer the force. Resulting in more damage.
Lucci was also shocked how such an attack could produce so much force. And this attack in particular had tons of momentum behind it
Maybe calling it stronger was the wrong wording. More damage is what I meant.
If Oda wants Lucci to take his second L of this arc then sure, but at best I can expect a clash between them, but not like a full blown out fight to the death type thing.
One more attack and Lucci would be koed. Thankfully, plot rescued him. When the villain has plotarmor instead of the MC.
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You Lucci fanboys are really something else, lol. If he needs a mode to 3 shot a much inferior opponent, basically trolling this dude, how are less powerful gears somehow not reliable against this dude? One Kong Gun and Lucci would piss blood lmao.
Me as neutral really want to see some SHP fights besides luffy,
Like Zoro vs kizaru, sanji vs lucci
Etc etc.... even jimbe and franky fights someone is interesting,
But this is oda we talking about
In his POV SHP always an underdog doesnt matter what title luffy has
Look at the recent chapter instead of luffy or jimbei as an emperor and his commander annihilate cp 0 crew, they are running away and stalling another epic fights, if this kaido and king CP0 and the crew will be death
Oda really like running scene .... like seriously almost every arc theres always running away or running around in circle scene...oda likes to waste some pages in a chapter
Maybe its oda or editor's fault because OP is still popular and give them easy money
And Bound Man isn't also just about pushing someone back further.
It is the mere fact that Bound Man is pure raw power, designed to break through massive defences like nothing.
Even with mediocre hardening, Luffy managed to overpower Katakuri's block mochi guard and damaging him quite significantly with just 3 hits. The same Bound Man almost put Doflamingo to sleep with 4 hits as well.
G5 is great in dealing the most efficient kind of damage to the opponent but only because its mechanism drastically boosts the damage output, doesn't mean it is also stronger than the mode which is filled with fullbody hardening + rubber + elasticity and using its tensile force to create destructive damage output.
Those attacks that rubberize opponents could probably be more efficient in transferring all of the force from Luffy's attacks into the opponent's body.
I agree with this take; from the looks of it, Luffy made Lucci's body rubbery to deal as much damage as possible to him.
Yet again, there is a lack of proof that this kind of attack is also superior to Bound Man imo.
Point is even if Kong Gun is stronger, the energy is dissipated/wasted whereas those rubberized punches could be optimized to transfer the force. Resulting in more damage.
So you're basically saying that one attack has more raw strength but the other one is more penetrative? Idk if we can say that the energy really gets wasted like that; after all, the entire mechanism is about launching as much concentrated power as possible. That's how Bound Man increases its attack potency 3 times.
The issue is that we have no actual valid comparison between G4 and G5 to make concrete statements.
Maybe Kizaru vs Luffy - if it happens - will give us more answers regarding G5 and G4. Imo, G5 lower end moves are definitely G4 tier - considering the fact that 3 hits almost koed an awakened high tier zoan like Lucci - but it is definitely debatable whether it has the same damage output as a Kong Gun.
Also, if G5 is just stronger in literally everything, this would make G4 completely useless. I doubt that Oda gets rid of this mode like that, unless we'll see G5 + G4 transformations, similar to Bajrang Gun.
Let's just ignore ACoA and ACoC, as well as the fact that Luffy was literally near death when fighting Kaido lol.
He didn't "need" G5 against Lucci. This was just a moment for Vegapunk to witness its power, nothing else. He wasn't pushed to his limits, he wasn't damaged, he basically toyed with this guy throughout the fight. If Luffy was death serious and at 100%, he would have simply used ACoC along with G5. Why didn't he use it?
Also, what? King has portrayal and feats over Lucci, it is debatable whether he's even above Queen lmfao. One was nearly koed by 3 hakiless hits, another one took 2 CoC slashes before being defeated by Zoro's new CoC mode. There's literally no argument in favor of Lucci when it comes to durability and endurance.
And Bound Man isn't also just about pushing someone back further.
It is the mere fact that Bound Man is pure raw power, designed to break through massive defences like nothing.
Even with mediocre hardening, Luffy managed to overpower Katakuri's block mochi guard and damaging him quite significantly with just 3 hits. The same Bound Man almost put Doflamingo to sleep with 4 hits as well.
G5 is great in dealing the most efficient kind of damage to the opponent but only because its mechanism drastically boosts the damage output, doesn't mean it is also stronger than the mode which is filled with fullbody hardening + rubber + elasticity and using its tensile force to create destructive damage output.
I agree with this take; from the looks of it, Luffy made Lucci's body rubbery to deal as much damage as possible to him.
Yet again, there is a lack of proof that this kind of attack is also superior to Bound Man imo.
So you're basically saying that one attack has more raw strength but the other one is more penetrative? Idk if we can say that the energy really gets wasted like that; after all, the entire mechanism is about launching as much concentrated power as possible. That's how Bound Man increases its attack potency 3 times.
The issue is that we have no actual valid comparison between G4 and G5 to make concrete statements.
Maybe Kizaru vs Luffy - if it happens - will give us more answers regarding G5 and G4. Imo, G5 lower end moves are definitely G4 tier - considering the fact that 3 hits almost koed an awakened high tier zoan like Lucci - but it is definitely debatable whether it has the same damage output as a Kong Gun.
Also, if G5 is just stronger in literally everything, this would make G4 completely useless. I doubt that Oda gets rid of this mode like that, unless we'll see G5 + G4 transformations, similar to Bajrang Gun.
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Let's just ignore ACoA and ACoC, as well as the fact that Luffy was literally near death when fighting Kaido lol.
He didn't "need" G5 against Lucci. This was just a moment for Vegapunk to witness its power, nothing else. He wasn't pushed to his limits, he wasn't damaged, he basically toyed with this guy throughout the fight. If Luffy was death serious and at 100%, he would have simply used ACoC along with G5. Why didn't he use it?
Also, what? King has portrayal and feats over Lucci, it is debatable whether he's even above Queen lmfao. One was nearly koed by 3 hakiless hits, another one took 2 CoC slashes before being defeated by Zoro's new CoC mode. There's literally no argument in favor of Lucci when it comes to durability and endurance.
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