Questions & Mysteries Sanji Full Body armament?! ( sounds retarded coz it is!)
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so why bring up ennies lobby?At that time sanji's flammes weren't hot enough to backfire against him, specially when his flammes only covered the most durable part of his body, but during Fishmen island he definitely needed haki in order to not burn himself
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didn't Jyabura state that his leg was on fire? Sanji even burst into flames in TB when he found out that Absalom saw Nami naked. He also created flames from kicking the Pacifista. The whole point of DJ is Sanji generating fire with his legs.
preskip Sanji durability is far below post skip Sanji's durability. So I do not see why he wouldn't be able to withstand the flames without haki. Obviously the duration of use will reduce but it doesn't mean the technique requires haki
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I've been saying that preskip DJ was damaging Sanji's leg, and post skip he's been using DJ in conjunction with CoA to stop it from damaging his leg. The revelation that adding the Exsoskeleton to Armament allows him withstand hotter flames all but confirms that for me.
As far as using fullbody with Hell's Memories, it's hard to say, as he doesn't enter that mode for long. That might be because he can't use fullbody armament, so he keeps it as a quick attack, but with the inclusion of the exoskeleton, he should be able to perform Hell's Memories for an extended amount of time, and when he finally gets to the level of CoA where he can use fullbody, he'll be able to use Ifrit Hell's Memories.
As far as using fullbody with Hell's Memories, it's hard to say, as he doesn't enter that mode for long. That might be because he can't use fullbody armament, so he keeps it as a quick attack, but with the inclusion of the exoskeleton, he should be able to perform Hell's Memories for an extended amount of time, and when he finally gets to the level of CoA where he can use fullbody, he'll be able to use Ifrit Hell's Memories.
First, reminder:
Canon statement, Sanji himself is pretty resistant to fire because he is a cook.
1. DJ1 (PreTS): the heat is momentary, so he himself tank the flame
2. DJ2 (PostTS): the flame is constantly burning, even when he doesn't kick, which means he uses Haki to defend himself for prolonged uses.
3. DJ2 HM: the hotter part of Hell Memories is in his kick, I think his legs burning hot, but only weaker fire as aura. He tanks those with Haki on his legs, without Haki on the other parts.
Else, if he uses FBH/Full Body Haki, we will be shown indication like Vergo.
4. IJ: Exo & Haki on his legs.
5. IJ HM: Exo & Haki on his legs, only Exo on other part of the body.
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I think Oda gave Sanji exoskeleton because it kinda function the same as FBH. Besides, FBH seems like reserved for CoA specialist. Which means, to balance Sanji, Oda won't give him FBH/Emission/AdCoC.
Canon statement, Sanji himself is pretty resistant to fire because he is a cook.
1. DJ1 (PreTS): the heat is momentary, so he himself tank the flame
2. DJ2 (PostTS): the flame is constantly burning, even when he doesn't kick, which means he uses Haki to defend himself for prolonged uses.
3. DJ2 HM: the hotter part of Hell Memories is in his kick, I think his legs burning hot, but only weaker fire as aura. He tanks those with Haki on his legs, without Haki on the other parts.
Else, if he uses FBH/Full Body Haki, we will be shown indication like Vergo.
4. IJ: Exo & Haki on his legs.
5. IJ HM: Exo & Haki on his legs, only Exo on other part of the body.
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I think Oda gave Sanji exoskeleton because it kinda function the same as FBH. Besides, FBH seems like reserved for CoA specialist. Which means, to balance Sanji, Oda won't give him FBH/Emission/AdCoC.
what dl you think of the the points i made
sanji uses FB invisible coa to withstand HM?
pre ts DJ had no flames..
and if HM fire is an aura then why does it burn the subjects like Queen and wadatsumi
there is alot the fact that in thriller bark he set himself on fire out of rage i bet that what's going on here as well..
which further clarifies my stance where i say DJ and HM are 2 different techniques inherently even if they are flame based
sanji uses FB invisible coa to withstand HM?
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pre ts DJ had no flames..
and if HM fire is an aura then why does it burn the subjects like Queen and wadatsumi
there is alot the fact that in thriller bark he set himself on fire out of rage i bet that what's going on here as well..
which further clarifies my stance where i say DJ and HM are 2 different techniques inherently even if they are flame based
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that would be.. huh a huge Wow-moment surely
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actually its a decent amount of time that he's on fire take a look at the wadatsumi HM panel sequences.
even if you posit that its just too quick hence its no Coa.. then wouldn't there be any visible damage inflicted from setting himself on fire.. just like it does to DJ?
there is also the thriller bark moment.. which is.. kinda LOOOSE if you wanna hauge HM
it just implies that HM fire mode... and DJ are different
no Jabura didn't state his leg was on fire he stated that it was glowing.. and with pacifistas his hits created fire on impact it was DJ on fire.. those aren't the same
the thriller bark moment is monke wrench to things here yes he did set himself on fire but now he says that to sustain flames he has to reinforce himself the thriller bark moment is kinda loose as well coz he was also morphing then according to zoro
that's why i said i don't support the FB invisible arnament thingi.. and believe DJ and Hm are different in such a way that one affect sanji other doesn't but it's still an assumption
again i never said the technique require haki i said to sustain flames on DJ sanji uses arnament.. and thats what he alluded to
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actually its a decent amount of time that he's on fire take a look at the wadatsumi HM panel sequences.
even if you posit that its just too quick hence its no Coa.. then wouldn't there be any visible damage inflicted from setting himself on fire.. just like it does to DJ?
there is also the thriller bark moment.. which is.. kinda LOOOSE if you wanna hauge HM
it just implies that HM fire mode... and DJ are different
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no Jabura didn't state his leg was on fire he stated that it was glowing.. and with pacifistas his hits created fire on impact it was DJ on fire.. those aren't the same
the thriller bark moment is monke wrench to things here yes he did set himself on fire but now he says that to sustain flames he has to reinforce himself the thriller bark moment is kinda loose as well coz he was also morphing then according to zoro
that's why i said i don't support the FB invisible arnament thingi.. and believe DJ and Hm are different in such a way that one affect sanji other doesn't but it's still an assumption
again i never said the technique require haki i said to sustain flames on DJ sanji uses arnament.. and thats what he alluded to
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Kay now hear me out.. the waiting room didn't attract much audience to this but i came across an anomaly while pondering over Sanji's hell memories
for starters, sanji sated Coa + Exo skeleton reinforcement to his legs helped him envelop /withstand greater flames on them (Ifrit jambe)
This now implicitly means that sanji reinforces his leg with Coa while using DJ to withstand its flames (note: not saying DJ requires COa for activation just saying post TS Dj has flames and given what sanji said seems like he's been using Cpa to reinforce his legs to withstand the now "post TS REFINED DJ" with flames.. whats being withstood is flames not DJ ) until he got the germa Buff which now enables withstanding greater flames.
all good till here?
Now the question is, if sanji requires Coa reinforcement of his leg to withstand his DJ flames
does that imply... that during hell memories he coats Invisible arnament around his body to withstand its flames
hence FB invisible arnament?
Honestly i'd rather opt for HM and DJ being Intrinsically different with one requiring haki to withstand other is just innate quality. (something i have been pushing lately)
but i made this ridiculous thread for yall to derive better alternatives to the notion of FB invisible arnament.. resonable ones ofc
note: Pre TS DJ had no flames it was just a heated leg that glows.. and flame is what i believe requires Coa to withstand as alluded by sanji
for starters, sanji sated Coa + Exo skeleton reinforcement to his legs helped him envelop /withstand greater flames on them (Ifrit jambe)
This now implicitly means that sanji reinforces his leg with Coa while using DJ to withstand its flames (note: not saying DJ requires COa for activation just saying post TS Dj has flames and given what sanji said seems like he's been using Cpa to reinforce his legs to withstand the now "post TS REFINED DJ" with flames.. whats being withstood is flames not DJ ) until he got the germa Buff which now enables withstanding greater flames.
all good till here?
Now the question is, if sanji requires Coa reinforcement of his leg to withstand his DJ flames
does that imply... that during hell memories he coats Invisible arnament around his body to withstand its flames
hence FB invisible arnament?
Honestly i'd rather opt for HM and DJ being Intrinsically different with one requiring haki to withstand other is just innate quality. (something i have been pushing lately)
but i made this ridiculous thread for yall to derive better alternatives to the notion of FB invisible arnament.. resonable ones ofc
note: Pre TS DJ had no flames it was just a heated leg that glows.. and flame is what i believe requires Coa to withstand as alluded by sanji
Spoiler: tag-kun
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@U c 4 up da idly
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@Zolofanboy
@Zolo
@God Buggy
@Finalbeta
@Chrono
@kumae
@Ravagerblade
@Hanners220
@Mr. Anderson
@MarineHQ62
@Jasonsmith
@Ishin
@Legendaryconquer#1
@Pantheos
@SomnusUltima
@omegalul
@Arrow
@LemonadeCandy
@Orojackson Refugee
@wh1p
@nik87
@Lunaria
@Ask D question
@The Unworthy
@Halyup
@MonsterKaido
@Zoro D Goat
@Don DaSlayer
@DonWick
@Punpun
@comrade
@Dark Admiral
@RayanOO
@Gauntlet
@Hedfi
@BleakAsh (lol)
@Kuro Ashi
@NotTommy
@zzShinichi
@Fenaker
@RobinsFeet
@Luffy is the mc
@Skiddo
Kay now hear me out.. the waiting room didn't attract much audience to this but i came across an anomaly while pondering over Sanji's hell memories
for starters, sanji sated Coa + Exo skeleton reinforcement to his legs helped him envelop /withstand greater flames on them (Ifrit jambe)
This now implicitly means that sanji reinforces his leg with Coa while using DJ to withstand its flames (note: not saying DJ requires COa for activation just saying post TS Dj has flames and given what sanji said seems like he's been using Cpa to reinforce his legs to withstand the now "post TS REFINED DJ" with flames.. whats being withstood is flames not DJ ) until he got the germa Buff which now enables withstanding greater flames.
all good till here?
Now the question is, if sanji requires Coa reinforcement of his leg to withstand his DJ flames
does that imply... that during hell memories he coats Invisible arnament around his body to withstand its flames
hence FB invisible arnament?
Honestly i'd rather opt for HM and DJ being Intrinsically different with one requiring haki to withstand other is just innate quality. (something i have been pushing lately)
but i made this ridiculous thread for yall to derive better alternatives to the notion of FB invisible arnament.. resonable ones ofc
note: Pre TS DJ had no flames it was just a heated leg that glows.. and flame is what i believe requires Coa to withstand as alluded by sanji
for starters, sanji sated Coa + Exo skeleton reinforcement to his legs helped him envelop /withstand greater flames on them (Ifrit jambe)
This now implicitly means that sanji reinforces his leg with Coa while using DJ to withstand its flames (note: not saying DJ requires COa for activation just saying post TS Dj has flames and given what sanji said seems like he's been using Cpa to reinforce his legs to withstand the now "post TS REFINED DJ" with flames.. whats being withstood is flames not DJ ) until he got the germa Buff which now enables withstanding greater flames.
all good till here?
Now the question is, if sanji requires Coa reinforcement of his leg to withstand his DJ flames
does that imply... that during hell memories he coats Invisible arnament around his body to withstand its flames
hence FB invisible arnament?
Honestly i'd rather opt for HM and DJ being Intrinsically different with one requiring haki to withstand other is just innate quality. (something i have been pushing lately)
but i made this ridiculous thread for yall to derive better alternatives to the notion of FB invisible arnament.. resonable ones ofc
note: Pre TS DJ had no flames it was just a heated leg that glows.. and flame is what i believe requires Coa to withstand as alluded by sanji
Spoiler: tag-kun
@Yasheen
@U c 4 up da idly
@Venom
@Doggo
@pastorlul
@rerere
@Zolofanboy
@Zolo
@God Buggy
@Finalbeta
@Chrono
@kumae
@Ravagerblade
@Hanners220
@Mr. Anderson
@MarineHQ62
@Jasonsmith
@Ishin
@Legendaryconquer#1
@Pantheos
@SomnusUltima
@omegalul
@Arrow
@LemonadeCandy
@Orojackson Refugee
@wh1p
@nik87
@Lunaria
@Ask D question
@The Unworthy
@Halyup
@MonsterKaido
@Zoro D Goat
@Don DaSlayer
@DonWick
@Punpun
@comrade
@Dark Admiral
@RayanOO
@Gauntlet
@Hedfi
@BleakAsh (lol)
@Kuro Ashi
@NotTommy
@zzShinichi
@Fenaker
@RobinsFeet
@Luffy is the mc
@Skiddo
@Yasheen
@U c 4 up da idly
@Venom
@Doggo
@pastorlul
@rerere
@Zolofanboy
@Zolo
@God Buggy
@Finalbeta
@Chrono
@kumae
@Ravagerblade
@Hanners220
@Mr. Anderson
@MarineHQ62
@Jasonsmith
@Ishin
@Legendaryconquer#1
@Pantheos
@SomnusUltima
@omegalul
@Arrow
@LemonadeCandy
@Orojackson Refugee
@wh1p
@nik87
@Lunaria
@Ask D question
@The Unworthy
@Halyup
@MonsterKaido
@Zoro D Goat
@Don DaSlayer
@DonWick
@Punpun
@comrade
@Dark Admiral
@RayanOO
@Gauntlet
@Hedfi
@BleakAsh (lol)
@Kuro Ashi
@NotTommy
@zzShinichi
@Fenaker
@RobinsFeet
@Luffy is the mc
@Skiddo
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