Powers & Abilities Sanji is modified.....but not really.....

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*Theory



Sanji's eyebrows indicate to me that he was defintely modified. However he never got the Judge's Modification....

D: Oda-san, hello!! Vinsmoke Judge and Sanji's hair are yellow. If this is so, why do the four remaining Vinsmoke kids dye their hair when they were little? Or was it caused by the Lineage Factor? -from Kunlun Pretzel

O: This question is from overseas, huh. Certainly the brothers having different hair colors is odd, I guess. You've already given the answer. This is because of the manipulated Lineage Factor. Sanji was the only one not affected, so he and his father have the same hair color.
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Oda confirms here that Sanji's blonde hair is due to the factor he never got the Lineage Factor Modification from Judge. Judge working with a DF specialist like Vegapunk, means there was defintely mixing DF with human birth. Trying to birth humans with DFs.

Another SBS Oda stated this.....

D: Do all Devil Fruit have that swirly pattern on them?

O: That's right. It's what distinguishes them from other fruit. Sometimes I wonder if Sanji himself is a Devil Fruit.
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Oda pretty much soft confirmed that Sanji was born and modified with a DF ability. However we also know he wasnt born with Judge's modifications. Since if he was modified by the Judge he would be born with Invisibility powers and would have Black hair. But he wasnt, however though...he was born with a curly eyebrow....And he does have weird fire powers, that come from nowhere. We know Curly Eyebrows are probably not from the parents since Sora doesnt have them. And Oda hiding Judge's normal eyebrow probably for the sake he wants to pretend that Sanji isnt modified.


By now the Sora's Drug theory has been rinsed by me, by yh I still believe in it. I feel with Judge's modifcations he put 3 things together with the modifications:

- No Emotions
- Exoskeleton/Super strength
- DF ability

In Reiju's case he never perfected it, so he couldnt give her no Emotions....

Now comes the purpose of the thread
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Explanation of why only Sanji
Now why wasnt Sanji affected by Judge's modifications, and instead his Lineage Factor was affected by Sora's Drug ? And why wasnt everyone else affected by it ? This is simply due to the fact of how DFs work. A DF will only have one user...even if two people eat it. And a DF user cannot get a second DF power. Sanji was the only one in Sora's womb who got the DF power, thus everyone else got nothing. Since the "Devil" within the fruit, went into Sanji.
D: A question for Ei-chan. If you take a single bite out of a Devil Fruit, and then someone else eats the rest of it, will they still be able to gain the ability? Take it away, Ei-chan. P.N. ☆Monkey-chan☆

O: Ehh, They will not. Once someone takes a single bite out of the fruit, the ability becomes solely theirs in that moment, and from then on, the fruit simply becomes a insanely gross-tasting fruit. Still, everyone takes care to eat the whole thing without knowing this.

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And the reason why Sanji didnt have Judge's modifications work for him is due to the fact of already getting a DF power from Sora. And since a person cant have 2 DF powers, Sanji couldnt be modified as getting the invisibility power is part of the modification.

Thus the whole Lineage Factor modification from Judge failed. He didnt get invisibility, No emotions or an Exoskeleton

The reason why Sanji was considered a fauilure was due to the fact that he failed his father's modifications. And that was only due to other Drug modification he solely ingested.


Conclusion: So to end all of this..... DJ/HM is a modification, but its not from Judge....its from Sora's drug. The drug reacted with Sanji's Lineage Factor and gave him fire powers. Non of Judge's modifications worked on Sanji due to the fact that a person can't have 2 DF powers ( except BB ). Sanji only was born with emotions, because the DF power Sora gave to him ruined Judge's modifications on him. Sora thought it would work on all of her children, but she never knew DF's only get injested by one person.

More Proof:

Sanji and Judge also dont share the same blood type. He shares the same as his modified siblings

1004 Vinsmoke Judge
First Appearance: vol 83 chapter 832
Epithet: “Garuda”
Fruit:
Haki:
Race: Royal
Germa Kingdom/ King
Germa 66/ supreme commander
【Profile】
Gender: male
Ship: Saint German
Birthday: May 12
Age: 56
Height: 2.72m
Blood Type: S
Birthplace: “North Blue” Germa Kingdom
Favorite food: tomato pasta with lobster

Whilst the Vin Bros....
 
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Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
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Thing is:
That's some SBS stuff.
On panel, one of the doctors and Reiju herself says that ALL 4 of the quadruplets were modified. And they managed to detect the modifications in their DNA.
The catch is that Sanji never MANIFESTED these changes. So his hair didn't change to some weird color, like his siblings, or his exoskeleton never formed.
Then comes the SBS trash master and contradicts an information he himself wrote it in the story.
Fuck these SBS. Just assume he meant Sanji didnt manifest the modifications, but he still has them.
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#4
Thing is:
That's some SBS stuff.
On panel, one of the doctors and Reiju herself says that ALL 4 of the quadruplets were modified. And they managed to detect the modifications in their DNA.
The catch is that Sanji never MANIFESTED these changes. So his hair didn't change to some weird color, like his siblings, or his exoskeleton never formed.
Then comes the SBS trash master and contradicts an information he himself wrote it in the story.
Fuck these SBS. Just assume he meant Sanji didnt manifest the modifications, but he still has them.
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Chapter 852
Oda is the King of Retcon. We might as well follow the SBS version now...since he reconned to that.

Maybe an explanation to this could be, that due to the Curly Eyebrow...they believed they were all modified. Or maybe they detected they have DF powers in the DNA. However Sanji got a different DF power to what he originally shouldve gotten....thus the scientists may have been tricked and thought the modification worked on him.
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
#5
Hum.....I dont know.
Gonna wait and see if something comes up this raid.
If not, I dont expect anything different to happen later on.
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But thats a cool theory.
Getting a DF power but not losing the ability to swim, or not being affected by Kairouseki seems kinda hack.
BUt who knows.
 
#6
Hum.....I dont know.
Gonna wait and see if something comes up this raid.
If not, I dont expect anything different to happen later on.
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But thats a cool theory.
Getting a DF power but not losing the ability to swim, or not being affected by Kairouseki seems kinda hack.
BUt who knows.
Also using it underwater...since Sanji used DJ underwater. Pretty damn cool. Once we get to the Vegapunk arc. He will explain all of this for us.
 

Uncle Van

Taxes Are a Sickness
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Should consider that it's always zoans being modified.
-Vegapunk discovered how to transfer DF powers to objects(zoans).
-Caesar completed fake devil fruits(zoans)
-The Vinsmoke siblings all resemble insect zoans: Yonji is a stag bettle, Reiju is a butterfly etc. which continues the trend

Sanji resembles a moth since they can store heat and camouflage themselves. It's also worth noting that Sanji's powers are directly linked to his emotions. If Judge succeeded and make Sanji emotionless, his DJ would be trash.
 
#8
Should consider that it's always zoans being modified.
-Vegapunk discovered how to transfer DF powers to objects(zoans).
-Caesar completed fake devil fruits(zoans)
-The Vinsmoke siblings all resemble insect zoans: Yonji is a stag bettle, Reiju is a butterfly etc. which continues the trend

Sanji resembles a moth since they can store heat and camouflage themselves. It's also worth noting that Sanji's powers are directly linked to his emotions. If Judge succeeded and make Sanji emotionless, his DJ would be trash.
If Judge suceeded, DJ wouldnt exist. And Sanji would have invisibility
 

Uncle Van

Taxes Are a Sickness
#9
If Judge suceeded, DJ wouldnt exist. And Sanji would have invisibility
We don't know that. Judge modified Reiju first...he wants to take it a step beyond and remove the emotions of the Vinbros which is something Sora didn't like. She drunk the formula so that they would keep their emotions and it seems to have affected all of them.

Sanji has his emotions obviously.

Niji and Yonji showed rage, had heart eyes for Nami just like Sanji and showed concern for Judge and rushed to save him. They were even seen carrying their father to safety.

Ichiji has the least range of emotions, but shows them nonetheless.

All the siblings have bug-like powers except Sanji is the only one without an exoskeleton(all bugs have exoskeletons) and with powers linked to his emotions. That Raid Suits also enhances their current abilities.
 
#11
On panel, one of the doctors and Reiju herself says that ALL 4 of the quadruplets were modified. And they managed to detect the modifications in their DNA.
I am pretty sure, the Doctoor confirmed, sanji is totally normal and no effects on the the modification are applied to him. Don't remember when Reiju ever confirmed that Sanji is modified too. Reiju is modified too but only the exoskeleton, she has a DF(mentioned either in SBS or vivre cards, unknown Devil Fruit ).
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DJ/HM is a modification,
This is not a modification, because we know oda had a proper explaination like G2 for that the first time he made sanji make use of DJ, oda is known to ditch details and not he doesn't has a good answer so he just gives nonsense answers in SBS now. Though it is known that powers/powerscaling/DFs are not handled by oda properly. We can't make sense out of many things related to powers or how its drawn...like remember how much time it actually takes to activate G4.... but not its as there is no vulnerability and he just switches(or offpanel while enemy stands still). I mean its obvious oda sucks at using his own creation the DF/Haki etc... that he has to "create new type of haki" to take down Kaido, when we don't even have good fights/usage of the basic form of DF and Haki.
Reiju's example is the best one, she obviosuly was not supposed to be a DF users...but he just her power look so unnatural that he had to add her to as DF user(the siblings also are weird).
 
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#12
Oda hiding Judges eyebrows throughout WCI definitely feel like he’s hinting that Sanji is modified

People used to speculate that Judge’s eyebrows were just the same direction as Sanji. However Oda saving that for the assumed Vegpunk arc doesn’t really fit.
 
#13
Oda hiding Judges eyebrows throughout WCI definitely feel like he’s hinting that Sanji is modified

People used to speculate that Judge’s eyebrows were just the same direction as Sanji. However Oda saving that for the assumed Vegpunk arc doesn’t really fit.
:lawsigh:
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All I would say is with one Piece trying to use logic/previous statements to apply a hypothesis is useless. Oda himself is inconsistent with what he says/shows.
 
#14
We don't know that. Judge modified Reiju first...he wants to take it a step beyond and remove the emotions of the Vinbros which is something Sora didn't like. She drunk the formula so that they would keep their emotions and it seems to have affected all of them.

Sanji has his emotions obviously.

Niji and Yonji showed rage, had heart eyes for Nami just like Sanji and showed concern for Judge and rushed to save him. They were even seen carrying their father to safety.

Ichiji has the least range of emotions, but shows them nonetheless.

All the siblings have bug-like powers except Sanji is the only one without an exoskeleton(all bugs have exoskeletons) and with powers linked to his emotions. That Raid Suits also enhances their current abilities.
I mean its pretty obvious DJ isnt from Judge.

- When Sanji used DJ in front of Judge, Judge wasnt suprised or shocked. Judge didnt come to the conclusion that Sanji unlocked his powers.

- Sanji's RS has invisibility powers, not fire powers.

Those 2 points are enough to show DJ isnt from Judge....
 
#15
Nice theory, but if sanji had a devil fruit in him he wouldnt be able to swim as soon as he got it. Whether you can use it or not is not relevant because it makes you lose your ability to swim as soon as you got it. Also if all children got the modification with the same DF then the first one to get the modification will get it (by the logic that only one can get it), the first one getting it would make sense and i am pretty sure it wasnt sanji.
But who knows maybe there is more to it. Nice theory either way.
 
#16
Nice theory, but if sanji had a devil fruit in him he wouldnt be able to swim as soon as he got it. Whether you can use it or not is not relevant because it makes you lose your ability to swim as soon as you got it. Also if all children got the modification with the same DF then the first one to get the modification will get it (by the logic that only one can get it), the first one getting it would make sense and i am pretty sure it wasnt sanji.
But who knows maybe there is more to it. Nice theory either way.
Maybe the whole point of making humans be born with DFs, avoids the whole sea weakness thing....

Plus each child would've gotten an individual modification in the Lineage Factor. But Sanji failed the Lineage Factor one, since he was the one who got the DF power from the Drug Sora took.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#17
Nice theory, but if sanji had a devil fruit in him he wouldnt be able to swim as soon as he got it. Whether you can use it or not is not relevant because it makes you lose your ability to swim as soon as you got it. Also if all children got the modification with the same DF then the first one to get the modification will get it (by the logic that only one can get it), the first one getting it would make sense and i am pretty sure it wasnt sanji.
But who knows maybe there is more to it. Nice theory either way.
You are correct regarding the DF matter. It's very far fetched and put it in a simple way would constitute poor writing. If Oda wanted to work on Sanji, maybe he came up with something more feasible and less contrived than this theory.
 
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People need to understand that Sanji's fire is a Lineage Factor modification...





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Sanji and Judge also dont share the same blood type. He shares the same as his modified siblings

1004 Vinsmoke Judge
First Appearance: vol 83 chapter 832
Epithet: “Garuda”
Fruit:
Haki:
Race: Royal
Germa Kingdom/ King
Germa 66/ supreme commander
【Profile】
Gender: male
Ship: Saint German
Birthday: May 12
Age: 56
Height: 2.72m
Blood Type: S
Birthplace: “North Blue” Germa Kingdom
Favorite food: tomato pasta with lobster

Whilst the Vin Bros....
 
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