Its not a necessity for Reyleigh to have it honestly .. and if he had advanced observation he would have depicted it like he did with Advanced Arnment and actually tell luffy why you're capable with FS.. which doesn't seem like he did since luffy had to figure it out half way into the fight with katakuri to really understand what going on with the dude being a paramecia and acting like a logia...its safe to assume that he was an arnament professionalist since thats what's hyped about him even the viver card as well..
Powers & Abilities Sanji may have future sight?
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The issue is within the inconsistency of the portrayal itself. It's possible that Oda will keep up with the inconsistency I highlighted, but I just hope he does not.
If he does however then I don't see any Base stats capable to cope with FS for logical reasons, therefore Katakuri could potentially stand as the best CoO user in the world if his FS is the most proficient.
I seriously hope that's globally not the case and find it unlikely. And that there are non FS users out there with better CoO.
I think one thing that striked in my favor is that Luffy seemed to fail to properly perceive Kaido's Blast Breath in one occasion failing to properly protect himself. Therefore he presumably failed to properly see through it. Meanwhile Zoro looked more proficient that wise.
If he does however then I don't see any Base stats capable to cope with FS for logical reasons, therefore Katakuri could potentially stand as the best CoO user in the world if his FS is the most proficient.
I seriously hope that's globally not the case and find it unlikely. And that there are non FS users out there with better CoO.
I think one thing that striked in my favor is that Luffy seemed to fail to properly perceive Kaido's Blast Breath in one occasion failing to properly protect himself. Therefore he presumably failed to properly see through it. Meanwhile Zoro looked more proficient that wise.
That's why I said either he has it or he knows it can be countered with speed like Kaido has.
He only showed internal destruction haki because he needed to break that collar bomb and he only taught Luffy base haki so he didn't have to show him advanced observation anyway..He might have it..Afterall he is right hand man of Roger.
He only showed internal destruction haki because he needed to break that collar bomb and he only taught Luffy base haki so he didn't have to show him advanced observation anyway..He might have it..Afterall he is right hand man of Roger.
"Base stats capable to cope." Not sure what this means. It throws off what I'm trying to understand here but some of the rest of what you say, like Luffy "failed" to read Boro Breath, doesn't really go with explaining Luffy's future sight. He didn't fail to read it, he just didn't care since first Zoro was willing to interject and secondly it couldn't even hurt him. If anything that means he actually did see the future.
I think it's highly likely that he has the more advanced version of the sensory ability, namely sensing stuff un-/subconsciously. That's the one ability besides future sight, that Luffy unlocked during the Kuri fight aswell. It's the same ability that makes WB able to sense stuff even while sleeping. Basically: You can't get cheap shotted, caught offguard or ambushed -> Van Augur couldn't just snipe kill Roger or WB from miles away.
Pretty difficult to recognize it as such within the story though, cause most of the time when Oda hands out CoO feats characters are in battle/in potential danger, so you can always argue that characters are just on guard and therefore use it actively/consciously.
But this much certainly is implied with that jelly bean dodging feat, cause Luffy had the same visual right after that Rayleigh flashback, where he was talking about the ability in question (sensing stuff subconsciously).
Like:
conscious (w/ concentration) sensory --adv--> subconscious (w/o concentration) sensory : WB, Luffy, Rayleigh?, Sanji?, Coby?, Aisa?
conscious precog ability --adv--> better precog (future sight= needs to concentrate): Kuri, Luffy
Pretty difficult to recognize it as such within the story though, cause most of the time when Oda hands out CoO feats characters are in battle/in potential danger, so you can always argue that characters are just on guard and therefore use it actively/consciously.
But this much certainly is implied with that jelly bean dodging feat, cause Luffy had the same visual right after that Rayleigh flashback, where he was talking about the ability in question (sensing stuff subconsciously).
Like:
conscious (w/ concentration) sensory --adv--> subconscious (w/o concentration) sensory : WB, Luffy, Rayleigh?, Sanji?, Coby?, Aisa?
conscious precog ability --adv--> better precog (future sight= needs to concentrate): Kuri, Luffy
I think Sanji has a very particular sensitivity though that does go along with being oriented towards observation. But he seems more like a locator or listener than one who is necessarily aware if you catch the drift.
WB for example just clapped Ace and then went back to sleep, as if nothing happened, all the while he was pretty much in safety/had nothing to fear in the first place.
And yeah I get what you mean @Fn Lucci . But it's pretty much the sensory stuff I'm talking about. Like while being heart eyes with Viola, he still speedblitzed the Sniper in DR for example. And even if it gets treated as a joke of his (sensing women in despair) for example, he's still able to do so -> being super sensitive in sensing stuff.
I think we are sitting in the same boat here: Sanji's just super aware of his surroundings and I think it comes from that subconscious CoO sensoring= CoO is always on, without concentration <- triggered by 2 years of getting chased by Okamas.
Pretty much this notion.
I think fundamentally although the definition of FS is pretty well defined, Luffy proved how difficult it was to see through Blast Breath. I highlighted many times how Zoro himself likely came up with a more powerful reaction output and how CoO presumably played a substantial part for it. In fact on the other hand we have Luffy barely managing to see through Blast Breath in one occasion. FS in itself looks profusely, vastly overrated.
I think fundamentally although the definition of FS is pretty well defined, Luffy proved how difficult it was to see through Blast Breath. I highlighted many times how Zoro himself likely came up with a more powerful reaction output and how CoO presumably played a substantial part for it. In fact on the other hand we have Luffy barely managing to see through Blast Breath in one occasion. FS in itself looks profusely, vastly overrated.